MOTM

Thanks for the description Larry, I can't wait to get my hands on
one. I just finished my first 420 today and spent hours running
a bass guitar through it. Well, it and a 410. It is amazing how
many great sounds I can get w/ just a Fender Precision bass,
a dbx compressor and one of these filters controlled by various
other modules. Tomorrow I'm building my first 320. I realize 
that besides the wonderful exotic stuff I could really use
a mixer module (stereo w/ vc pan), and an envelope follower.

Everyone was right about the levels. The line out on my 
compressor  was plenty to drive the filters. I had my
monitors cranked and absolutely no hiss.

BTW, this is OT, but has anyone checked out the digi001?
Sort of a poor man's ProTools. I sold my analog tape
deck and mixer and have been wanting to move to a computer 
based digital system. Has anyone out there checked it out? 
I really don't want a Windows based system, and I think
I'll be an even older man before the pro audio industry 
wakes up to Linux, so I'm considering a G4 w/ the digi001.
I'm just wondering if the ProTools LE software is sufficient
or do I need to consider Cubase or Logic?

Tomy

In a message dated 00-05-14 21:55:44 EDT, you write:

<< except the linear / expo shape). >>


larry,
you make the module sound quite nice but, if we`ve gone to all this trouble 
to make it fantastic, why not add another  ota and jack and make this last 
function vc-able, too ? especially if the board isn`t finished yet, maybe 
this can be squeezed in - ?
best,
dave v.

Maybe Juergen can answer this since Paul is away and the diy list is full of 
guitar talk. 

The only lag processor module I've used a lot is the ("here he goes again") 
Serge DSG. That module has some VC features (less than the MOTM I should add) 
but doesn't have VC "shape" (i.e., linear/expo) either. In fact the output of 
the module is linear unless you patch the module output into the VC input. By 
turning the reversing attenuator you can get curves from log to linear to 
exponential. 

(I believe it is this internal patching of modules which can lead one to 
think of the Serge as being a mysterious and difficult instrument) What I'm 
wondering is if the curve shape control of the MOTM 820 does something like 
this (output to VC input)? If so, can this be done externally (i.e., patch 
the output to the VC input) through a VCA to allow VC curve shape control?

BTW, I don't really think VC curve shape is that big of deal -- while being 
nice to have, I'm not at the moment sure how I'd use it.
JB

In a message dated 5/15/2000 3:35:39 AM, davevosh@... writes:

><< except the linear / expo shape). >>
>
>
>larry,
>you make the module sound quite nice but, if we`ve gone to all this trouble
>to make it fantastic, why not add another  ota and jack and make this last
>function vc-able, too ? especially if the board isn`t finished yet, maybe
>this can be squeezed in - ?

In a message dated 00-05-15 21:18:17 EDT, you write:

<< , I don't really think VC curve shape is that big of deal -- while being 
 nice to have, I'm not at the moment sure how I'd use it. >>



john,
actually, i`d probably agree with you, i`m not sure how i`d use it but the 
last time i suggested eliminating a v.c. possibility for the sake of 
simplicity, everyone seemed in favor of complete v.c. / total flexibility.  
this might be one of those things were you think " well......" but when you 
finally have it, it turns into something you use all the time. but, if it 
isn`t made v.c.-able, i guess it is moot.
re: dsg - i loved mine. possibly ( IMHO ) the finest, most versatile module 
ever marketed by any company ( heresy be damned ! ). the range of contours 
available was amazing and the "serendipity" functions just made life that 
much more worth living...... :^)
best,
dave v.

In a message dated 5/15/2000 6:18:52 PM, I writes:

>Maybe Juergen can answer this since Paul is away ...

and he did!

While he didn't have time for a lengthy description (not that I would've 
understood it anyway) he mentioned that in the 820 getting a pot to control 
the degree of curve was actually very difficult while keeping the module 
stable and with no offset over the full range (remember, while I might be 
using this to do weird stuff, a lot -- maybe most -- people will be using 
this for some sort of portamento control at least some of the time). So an 
OTA won't work in this application for VC. And similarly, a VCA would work 
but would also most likely introduce problems with offset and the rest.

I've lived without VC curve shape on a lag processor this long, I don't think 
I need it now.
JB


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>I'm 
>wondering is if the curve shape control of the MOTM 820 does something
>like 
>this (output to VC input)? If so, can this be done externally (i.e., patch
>the output to the VC input) through a VCA to allow VC curve shape control?

>BTW, I don't really think VC curve shape is that big of deal -- while being
>nice to have, I'm not at the moment sure how I'd use it.
>JB
>
>In a message dated 5/15/2000 3:35:39 AM, davevosh@... writes:
>
>><< except the linear / expo shape). >>
>>
>>
>>larry,
>>you make the module sound quite nice but, if we`ve gone to all this trouble
>>to make it fantastic, why not add another  ota and jack and make this
>last
>>function vc-able, too ? especially if the board isn`t finished yet, maybe
>>this can be squeezed in - ?
>

In a message dated 00-05-17 22:04:15 EDT, you write:

<< I've lived without VC curve shape on a lag processor this long, >>


john,
true, we`ve learned to live without it but pushing the limits is what 
modulars are for. still if the "powers that be" say that it isn`t technically 
feasible, well, we will have to continue to live without it. of course, its a 
recursive thing too, we never had it, so we can live without it but by never 
having it, we can never see if it might not have some cool possibilities for 
weird uses.........
oh well.......
best,
dave v.