Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Henrik
Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
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Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Stephen Drake
Yes. The 320 shape control affects all the outputs except for the triangle. The saw output puts out an ascending ramp with the shape knob in the full counterclockwise position, a triangle wave in the middle, and a descending ramp wave in the full clockwise position.
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Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H
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Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Paul Schreiber
What is a ramp wave if not a saw?
Paul S.
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----- Original Message -----From: HenrikSent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:40 AMSubject: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H
Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Henrik
Yes, that´s a question to ask Oakley synths who uses the term "ramp" on their LFO ;)
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From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: motm@yahoogroups.com, "Henrik" <sequenrik@...>
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 7:10 PM
What is a ramp wave if not a saw?Paul S.----- Original Message -----From: HenrikSent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:40 AMSubject: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H
Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Henrik
--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Stephen Drake <makeme1witheverything@...> wrote:
From: Stephen Drake <makeme1witheverything@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 6:55 PMYes. The 320 shape control affects all the outputs except for the triangle. The saw output puts out an ascending ramp with the shape knob in the full counterclockwise position, a triangle wave in the middle, and a descending ramp wave in the full clockwise position.
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Henrik <sequenrik@...> wrote:
Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H
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Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Henrik
Thanks
--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Stephen Drake <makeme1witheverything@...> wrote:
From: Stephen Drake <makeme1witheverything@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 6:55 PMYes. The 320 shape control affects all the outputs except for the triangle. The saw output puts out an ascending ramp with the shape knob in the full counterclockwise position, a triangle wave in the middle, and a descending ramp wave in the full clockwise position.
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Henrik <sequenrik@...> wrote:
Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H
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Stephen Drake
sduck409@...
makeme1witheverything@...
Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Dave Garfield
Hi, all!
If I may be so bold as to step in where I'm not wanted: ;->
* - As with most of the Western languages, we read from left to right
* - Therefore, if we consider that "standard", a RAMP wave would increase from left to right
* - A SAWTOOTH would be the opposite, decreasing from left to right
* - (Even though actual sawteeth rely on the ramp of the teeth to cut on the push stroke for Western saws [as opposed to say, a dozuki or ryoba], if you turn it the right way... ;-) )
* - There is a tremendous probability that I may be completely F.O.S. This, however, is how I've discerned a SAW from a RAMP wave.
To use that tired old saw ;->, YMMV.
Guess I need to find something to do...
Dave Garfield - Sittin' in the snow, in the "wilds" of Coloraddy, USA
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From: Henrik <sequenrik@...>
To: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>; motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 12:06:12 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>; motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 12:06:12 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Yes, that´s a question to ask Oakley synths who uses the term "ramp" on their LFO ;)
//H
--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: motm@yahoogroups.com, "Henrik" <sequenrik@...>
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 7:10 PM
What is a ramp wave if not a saw?Paul S.----- Original Message -----From: HenrikSent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:40 AMSubject: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H
RE: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Ken Tkacs
I agree. Sawtooth decreases left-to-right and Ramp is opposite.
“Back in the 70’s” we definitely distinguished between Ramp and Sawtooth. Some like to say “they’re the same thing because they have identical harmonic spectra,” but that’s not the point. That presumes you’re using a sawtooth as an audio wave which is a strange thing to presume, and in any other context, the distinction is important.
In recent years, the term “ramp” seems to just be dropped and both ascending & descending waveforms are called “saw,” but personally I think the old distinction was more helpful.
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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Garfield
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 2:23 PM
To: MOTM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Hi, all!
If I may be so bold as to step in where I'm not wanted: ;->
* - As with most of the Western languages, we read from left to right
* - Therefore, if we consider that "standard", a RAMP wave would increase from left to right
* - A SAWTOOTH would be the opposite, decreasing from left to right
* - (Even though actual sawteeth rely on the ramp of the teeth to cut on the push stroke for Western saws [as opposed to say, a dozuki or ryoba], if you turn it the right way... ;-) )
* - There is a tremendous probability that I may be completely F.O.S. This, however, is how I've discerned a SAW from a RAMP wave.
To use that tired old saw ;->, YMMV.
Guess I need to find something to do...
Dave Garfield - Sittin' in the snow, in the "wilds" of Coloraddy, USA
From: Henrik <sequenrik@...>
To: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>; motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 12:06:12 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Yes, that´s a question to ask Oakley synths who uses the term "ramp" on their LFO ;)
//H
--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: motm@yahoogroups.com, "Henrik" <sequenrik@...>
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 7:10 PM
What is a ramp wave if not a saw?
Paul S.
----- Original Message -----
From: Henrik
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:40 AM
Subject: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H
Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Henrik
Good point! :)
--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Dave Garfield <daveogarf@...> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: "MOTM" <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 8:23 PMHi, all!If I may be so bold as to step in where I'm not wanted: ;->* - As with most of the Western languages, we read from left to right* - Therefore, if we consider that "standard", a RAMP wave would increase from left to right* - A SAWTOOTH would be the opposite, decreasing from left to right* - (Even though actual sawteeth rely on the ramp of the teeth to cut on the push stroke for Western saws [as opposed to say, a dozuki or ryoba], if you turn it the right way... ;-) )* - There is a tremendous probability that I may be completely F.O.S. This, however, is how I've discerned a SAW from a RAMP wave.To use that tired old saw ;->, YMMV.Guess I need to find something to do...Dave Garfield - Sittin' in the snow, in the "wilds" of Coloraddy, USAFrom: Henrik <sequenrik@...>
To: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>; motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 12:06:12 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Yes, that´s a question to ask Oakley synths who uses the term "ramp" on their LFO ;)
//H
--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: motm@yahoogroups.com, "Henrik" <sequenrik@...>
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 7:10 PM
What is a ramp wave if not a saw?Paul S.----- Original Message -----From: HenrikSent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:40 AMSubject: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H
RE: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Greg James
And if I might add – the Japanese saws are way better for precision cuts while hand sawing one’s home-made MOTM walnut cabinets.
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motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Garfield
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011
2:23 PM
To: MOTM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on
MOTM LFOs?
Hi, all!
If I may be so bold as to step in where I'm not wanted: ;->
* - As with most of the Western languages, we read from left to right
* - Therefore, if we consider that "standard", a RAMP wave would increase from left to right
* - A SAWTOOTH would be the opposite, decreasing from left to right
* - (Even though actual sawteeth rely on the ramp of the teeth to cut on the push stroke for Western saws [as opposed to say, a dozuki or ryoba], if you turn it the right way... ;-) )
* - There is a tremendous probability that I may be completely F.O.S. This, however, is how I've discerned a SAW from a RAMP wave.
To use that tired old saw ;->, YMMV.
Guess I need to find something to do...
Dave Garfield - Sittin' in the snow, in the "wilds" of Coloraddy , USA
From: Henrik
<sequenrik@...>
To: Paul Schreiber
<synth1@...>; motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011
12:06:12 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on
MOTM LFOs?
Yes, that´s a question to ask Oakley synths who uses
the term "ramp" on their LFO ;)
//H
--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
wrote:
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: motm@yahoogroups.com, "Henrik" <sequenrik@...>
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 7:10 PM
What is a ramp wave if not a saw?
Paul S.
----- Original Message -----
From: Henrik
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:40 AM
Subject: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H
Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-05 by Heba Kadry
gotta say that I learn something new everyday from this forum!
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Greg James <gjames@...> wrote:
And if I might add – the Japanese saws are way better for precision cuts while hand sawing one’s home-made MOTM walnut cabinets.
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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Garfield
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 2:23 PM
To: MOTM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Hi, all!
If I may be so bold as to step in where I'm not wanted: ;->
* - As with most of the Western languages, we read from left to right
* - Therefore, if we consider that "standard", a RAMP wave would increase from left to right
* - A SAWTOOTH would be the opposite, decreasing from left to right
* - (Even though actual sawteeth rely on the ramp of the teeth to cut on the push stroke for Western saws [as opposed to say, a dozuki or ryoba], if you turn it the right way... ;-) )
* - There is a tremendous probability that I may be completely F.O.S. This, however, is how I've discerned a SAW from a RAMP wave.
To use that tired old saw ;->, YMMV.
Guess I need to find something to do...
Dave Garfield - Sittin' in the snow, in the "wilds" of Coloraddy, USA
From: Henrik <sequenrik@...>
To: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>; motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 12:06:12 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Yes, that´s a question to ask Oakley synths who uses the term "ramp" on their LFO ;)
//H
--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: motm@yahoogroups.com, "Henrik" <sequenrik@...>
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 7:10 PM
What is a ramp wave if not a saw?
Paul S.
----- Original Message -----
From: Henrik
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:40 AM
Subject: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H
Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
2011-02-06 by Scott Deyo
(I apologize in advance...)
Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
Jealous Edison Record Kompany
On Feb 5, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Greg James wrote:
And if I might add – the Japanese saws are way better for precision cuts while hand sawing one’s home-made MOTM walnut cabinets.
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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Garfield
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 2:23 PM
To: MOTM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Hi, all!
If I may be so bold as to step in where I'm not wanted: ;->
* - As with most of the Western languages, we read from left to right
* - Therefore, if we consider that "standard", a RAMP wave would increase from left to right
* - A SAWTOOTH would be the opposite, decreasing from left to right
* - (Even though actual sawteeth rely on the ramp of the teeth to cut on the push stroke for Western saws [as opposed to say, a dozuki or ryoba], if you turn it the right way... ;-) )
* - There is a tremendous probability that I may be completely F.O.S. This, however, is how I've discerned a SAW from a RAMP wave.
To use that tired old saw ;->, YMMV.
Guess I need to find something to do...
Dave Garfield - Sittin' in the snow, in the "wilds" of Coloraddy , USA
From: Henrik <sequenrik@...>
To: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>; motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 12:06:12 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Yes, that´s a question to ask Oakley synths who uses the term "ramp" on their LFO ;)
//H
--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
To: motm@yahoogroups.com, "Henrik" <sequenrik@...>
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 7:10 PM
What is a ramp wave if not a saw?
Paul S.
----- Original Message -----
From: Henrik
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:40 AM
Subject: [motm] Ramp wave on MOTM LFOs?
Hi, can the LFOs with the "shape" control make a ramp wave from the saw?
Thanks
//H