MOTM

Paul, my thought is that once these Euro dudes see the light, they will move on to one of the "serious" formats.  Euro is the gateway drug.  Serge, Buchla, Modcan, or MOTM are the "bog boys", and out there, MOTM is known to be the best.  So keep the 5u alive.  Move them to SMT if you have to, (so you can stuff PCB's behind Eu and 5u panels) but find a way to keep MOTM on the shelf!  
eMOTM just 'aint the same.

~Steve

My sentiments exactly! MOTM 5U is the very best and I'm sure it will win many converts once you're able to bring delivery times down via SMT.

Personally, I wasn't excited about the Pulse Divider but I am still committed to expanding my (rather large) MOTM synth and I absolutely will buy more 5U modules when you bring them out. Party on!

skw

On Nov 19, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Aaron Day wrote:

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> I started on a (borrowed) Serge, built up a bunch of MOTM, sold half of it and bought Euro format and now selling all of my Euro modules. They sound OK but they don't feel as good nor do they strike me as gear that will be around in 10 years. I anticipate my MOTM gear to be inherited by my son!
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> On 19.11.2010, at 13:50, Steve Maietta wrote:
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>> Paul, my thought is that once these Euro dudes see the light, they will move on to one of the "serious" formats. Euro is the gateway drug. Serge, Buchla, Modcan, or MOTM are the "bog boys", and out there, MOTM is known to be the best. So keep the 5u alive. Move them to SMT if you have to, (so you can stuff PCB's behind Eu and 5u panels) but find a way to keep MOTM on the shelf! 
>> eMOTM just 'aint the same.
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>> ~Steve
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Yeah, Euro is the mule almost everyone is jumping on; can't wait until
it's legs break!

I hope 5U and Frac are still around when that happens.

I've had a few euro modules, don't like the highly stuffed face plates;
kinda make me sick. Cheap and plentiful; what the masses want.

I'm thinking of a T-shirt: "Frac ME!" "I hate Doepfer."

John

> My sentiments exactly! MOTM 5U is the very best and I'm sure it will win
> many converts once you're able to bring delivery times down via SMT.
>
> Personally, I wasn't excited about the Pulse Divider but I am still
> committed to expanding my (rather large) MOTM synth and I absolutely will
> buy more 5U modules when you bring them out. Party on!
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> skw
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> On Nov 19, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Aaron Day wrote:
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>> I second this.
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>> I started on a (borrowed) Serge, built up a bunch of MOTM, sold half of
>> it and bought Euro format and now selling all of my Euro modules. They
>> sound OK but they don't feel as good nor do they strike me as gear that
>> will be around in 10 years. I anticipate my MOTM gear to be inherited by
>> my son!
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>> ad
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>> On 19.11.2010, at 13:50, Steve Maietta wrote:
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>>> Paul, my thought is that once these Euro dudes see the light, they will
>>> move on to one of the "serious" formats. Euro is the gateway drug.
>>> Serge, Buchla, Modcan, or MOTM are the "bog boys", and out there, MOTM
>>> is known to be the best. So keep the 5u alive. Move them to SMT if you
>>> have to, (so you can stuff PCB's behind Eu and 5u panels) but find a
>>> way to keep MOTM on the shelf!
>>> eMOTM just 'aint the same.
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>>> ~Steve
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I wasn't going to comment on this,
but here goes......
Currently I am running MOTM(5u), DOTcom, FRAC & Euro in a custom cabinet. There 
are GREAT modules being produced in all formats!

The idea that Euro-guys will grow into 5u is strange to me.
Especially when Paul is making the same quality in 5u & Euro.....

If you need to be Mobile, then FRAC or Euro is best.
5u is great if your system lives in One Room or
if you can afford Keith Emerson's tech!!

It is obvious that Paul is doing better$$ with Euro,
but Roger appears to be doing well with 5u...........

For the price of a small cab w/power & some 1/8" cables or adaptors,
you might want to consider adding a side-car on your big systems......




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From: Scott Warren <scott@...>
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 11:44:26 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] 5u sales vs Euro lately..

  
My sentiments exactly! MOTM 5U is the very best and I'm sure it will win many 
converts once you're able to bring delivery times down via SMT. 


Personally, I wasn't excited about the Pulse Divider but I am still committed to 
expanding my (rather large) MOTM synth and I absolutely will buy more 5U modules 
when you bring them out. Party on!

skw

On Nov 19, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Aaron Day wrote:


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>
>I second this. 
>
>
>I started on a (borrowed) Serge, built up a bunch of MOTM, sold half of it and 
>bought Euro format and now selling all of my Euro modules. They sound OK but 
>they don't feel as good nor do they strike me as gear that will be around in 10 
>years. I anticipate my MOTM gear to be inherited by my son!
>
>
>ad
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>On 19.11.2010, at 13:50, Steve Maietta wrote:
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>Paul, my thought is that once these Euro dudes see the light, they will move on 
>to one of the "serious" formats. Euro is the gateway drug. Serge, Buchla, 
>Modcan, or MOTM are the "bog boys", and out there, MOTM is known to be the best. 
>So keep the 5u alive. Move them to SMT if you have to, (so you can stuff PCB's 
>behind Eu and 5u panels) but find a way to keep MOTM on the shelf! 
>>eMOTM just 'aint the same.
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>>~Steve
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I don't think the 5U MOTM format is "going away" soon. For one thing, there 
are still more 5U modules out there than any other large format system 
(approaching 10,000+). And yes, they are built to last 20 years or more.

For me, my personal life the last 2 1/2 years took over and then the death 
of Doug Curtis (and the subsequent revoke of the CEM deal we had by his 
wife) took a lot out of my MOTM time and focus.

For the most part, this has stabilized now. I have a new job that has no 
travel so I'm home 7 days/week. I have a known, regular schedule, even if 
the total hours are a bit less, the stress is -90dB down from 6 months ago.

After the existing backlog is 100% shipped, I will have a bit of $$$ to 
spend on trying to plug the whole in the dam (or re-arrange deck chairs on 
the Titanic). I have options now for sheet metal that I did not have up 
until recently. My pot supplier seems to be stable, deliver a nice product 
and is reasonably priced (the 149 Spectrol pots I started with th 1998 are 
now $17ea. That is not a typo). I have a cheap & reliable pc board supplier 
and a new graphics artist to help with the 'look and feel' of new modules 
and the website. I have a wonderful DSP programmer, a great local SMT 
assembler and many others that help me with everything from AutoCAD to nice 
demo videos.

The reason there is a flurry of Euro activity is simple: fast-turn economic 
gain with little risk. By NAMM, there will be 4 Euro modules, based off 2 
DSP "platforms" with a third platform waiting in the wings. My plan is to 
take that 3rd platform and move the 4 Euro functions to 5U/MU with 
*upgraded* audio specs and more features. Then, I plan to take *that* money 
made and basically "start over" on the existing 5U designs, so that 20 years 
from then, they will still be OK (remember, original MOTM modules are now 10 
years old!). The redesign is 95% "mechanical", not electrical. I'm just 
getting rid of all the brackets, wiring and expensive parts. The main 
benefit: < 2 weeks shipping.

For the DIYers: yes, the current original boards will be available as long 
as people buy them. They don't take up that much space :)

There is still lots to to and play with in years to come. Stay tuned! And 
hope to see some of you at NAMM.

Paul S.