MOTM

Well, to be honest, I rather spend 100$ more and wait 3 months longer
for a super duper version...

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Paul Schreiber schreef:

>
>
> a) I am thinking *not* to spend the time to make a super-duper 5U
> version. Rather, the 5U will be the same HW as the Euro, with 2
> additional switches:
>
> 1 - interpolation on/off (this disables the morphing, so it only
> outputs the individual wavetables and not the blended ones)
> 2 - Quadrature waveforms on/off. Normally, there are 2 outputs: XY and
> Z. The output the result of the X+Y morph and the Z morph
> respectively. In quadrature mode, we re-assign the outputs so that the
> Z is a phase shifted copy of the XY AND then abount of the phase shift
> is CV'd. So, you can output any 'quadrature' (not just 90 degrees)
> from 0 to 360 degrees out of phase.
>
> b) these 2 options are jumper pins on the Euro card, but would be from
> panel switches on the 5U.
>
> Other than that, the wavetable set and the feature set would be the same.
>
> b) shipping would be in late Feb/early March.
>
> c) a super-duper version would cost $100 more, not be ready until
> summer 2010.
>
> Paul S.
>
>

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Has there been any discussion yet as to what features the "super-
duper" version would have?

> c) a super-duper version would cost $100 more, not be ready until
> summer 2010.

> Has there been any discussion yet as to what features the "super-
> duper" version would have?
>

What the super-duper would have different than the "standard" version:

a) 8 banks of wavetables instead of 3 (assuming we could generate that
many!)
b) the wavetable length would be increased to 1024 or maybe 2048 samples
(from 256) which reduces high-frequency aliasing and allows more 'fancy'
wavetables
c) USB port for adding your own wavetables (no, it's NOT a sampler) or might
just have a '521 XPander connect to it to do the wavetable loading (then
it's "free")

I would guess that this version would be summer 2010 because of the SW
involved. The HW is more like the MOTM-520 but the SW is more involved, and
somebody would have to write the wavetable editor/uploader.

Paul S.

I would be interested in this if it could do everything the Blacet/
Wiard Miniwave does (but better). Sounds like you are getting there.
Here's what I'd like to see:

1. The ability to load my own waves. I have a lot of waves in my
Blacet/Wiard Miniwave that I'd like to port over. Can I do that? If
it's just a matter of writing a data conversion tool to convert from
Miniwave format to MOTM-350 format then consider it done (as long as
you post the MOTM-350 wave format).
2. The ability to morph between waves (in both X and Y) or to not
morph. The morph will be very useful for audio waves. The non-morph
for LFOs and lookups.
3. Make it work down to DC, not AC coupled.
4. The ability to use lookups (like the MiniWave). The MiniWave isn't
an oscillator, it maps the voltage applied to the IN jack to a point
in the currently selected wave. This is really useful because you can
create any transfer function to map voltage A to voltage B (I call it
an "arbitrary function generator"). Uses include: quantizer, pseudo-
random sequence generator, voltage controlled distortion, tracking
generator.

> What the super-duper would have different than the "standard" version:
>
> a) 8 banks of wavetables instead of 3 (assuming we could generate that
> many!)
> b) the wavetable length would be increased to 1024 or maybe 2048
> samples
> (from 256) which reduces high-frequency aliasing and allows more
> 'fancy'
> wavetables
> c) USB port for adding your own wavetables (no, it's NOT a sampler)
> or might
> just have a '521 XPander connect to it to do the wavetable loading
> (then
> it's "free")
>
> I would guess that this version would be summer 2010 because of the SW
> involved. The HW is more like the MOTM-520 but the SW is more
> involved, and
> somebody would have to write the wavetable editor/uploader.

"...somebody would have to write the wavetable editor/uploader."

One could ask Grant Richter of Wiard for permission to hack and expand his Wave 256 program...

http://www.sonicspot.com/wave256/wave256.html

...to Wave 1024 or 2048 as it were :)

I'm no programmer, but I imagine it could be done.


_Kyle

--- On Mon, 10/19/09, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:

From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] 5U vs E350 differences
To: "MOTM List" <motm@yahoogroups.com>, "Scott Juskiw" <scott@...>
Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 7:14 AM

> Has there been any discussion yet as to what features the "super-
> duper" version would have?
>

What the super-duper would have different than the "standard" version:

a) 8 banks of wavetables instead of 3 (assuming we could generate that
many!)
b) the wavetable length would be increased to 1024 or maybe 2048 samples
(from 256) which reduces high-frequency aliasing and allows more 'fancy'
wavetables
c) USB port for adding your own wavetables (no, it's NOT a sampler) or might
just have a '521 XPander connect to it to do the wavetable loading (then
it's "free")

I would guess that this version would be summer 2010 because of the SW
involved. The HW is more like the MOTM-520 but the SW is more involved, and
somebody would have to write the wavetable editor/uploader.

Paul S.

Add me to the super duper list...

-Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Adam
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:54 AM
To: Paul Schreiber
Cc: MOTM List
Subject: Re: [motm] 5U vs E350 differences

Well, to be honest, I rather spend 100$ more and wait 3 months longer
for a super duper version...

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Paul Schreiber schreef:

>
>
> a) I am thinking *not* to spend the time to make a super-duper 5U
> version. Rather, the 5U will be the same HW as the Euro, with 2
> additional switches:
>
> 1 - interpolation on/off (this disables the morphing, so it only
> outputs the individual wavetables and not the blended ones)
> 2 - Quadrature waveforms on/off. Normally, there are 2 outputs: XY and
> Z. The output the result of the X+Y morph and the Z morph
> respectively. In quadrature mode, we re-assign the outputs so that the
> Z is a phase shifted copy of the XY AND then abount of the phase shift
> is CV'd. So, you can output any 'quadrature' (not just 90 degrees)
> from 0 to 360 degrees out of phase.
>
> b) these 2 options are jumper pins on the Euro card, but would be from
> panel switches on the 5U.
>
> Other than that, the wavetable set and the feature set would be the same.
>
> b) shipping would be in late Feb/early March.
>
> c) a super-duper version would cost $100 more, not be ready until
> summer 2010.
>
> Paul S.
>
>

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I see an opportunity here to release a micro and an ultra version, much like the current MOTM-300 and 310 .... the micro based on the E-350, and the Ultra being the super duper version...
Would that work?

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:
>
> > Has there been any discussion yet as to what features the "super-
> > duper" version would have?
> >
>
> What the super-duper would have different than the "standard" version:
>
> a) 8 banks of wavetables instead of 3 (assuming we could generate that
> many!)
> b) the wavetable length would be increased to 1024 or maybe 2048 samples
> (from 256) which reduces high-frequency aliasing and allows more 'fancy'
> wavetables
> c) USB port for adding your own wavetables (no, it's NOT a sampler) or might
> just have a '521 XPander connect to it to do the wavetable loading (then
> it's "free")
>
> I would guess that this version would be summer 2010 because of the SW
> involved. The HW is more like the MOTM-520 but the SW is more involved, and
> somebody would have to write the wavetable editor/uploader.
>
> Paul S.
>

Yeah, I'd love a micro version if it was 1u.

On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:14 AM, torikoos wrote:

>
> I see an opportunity here to release a micro and an ultra version,
> much like the current MOTM-300 and 310 .... the micro based on the
> E-350, and the Ultra being the super duper version...
> Would that work?
>
> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Has there been any discussion yet as to what features the "super-
> > > duper" version would have?
> > >
> >
> > What the super-duper would have different than the "standard"
> version:
> >
> > a) 8 banks of wavetables instead of 3 (assuming we could generate
> that
> > many!)
> > b) the wavetable length would be increased to 1024 or maybe 2048
> samples
> > (from 256) which reduces high-frequency aliasing and allows more
> 'fancy'
> > wavetables
> > c) USB port for adding your own wavetables (no, it's NOT a
> sampler) or might
> > just have a '521 XPander connect to it to do the wavetable loading
> (then
> > it's "free")
> >
> > I would guess that this version would be summer 2010 because of
> the SW
> > involved. The HW is more like the MOTM-520 but the SW is more
> involved, and
> > somebody would have to write the wavetable editor/uploader.
> >
> > Paul S.
> >


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> Yeah, I'd love a micro version if it was 1u.
>

As stated previously, I'm going full-speed-ahead with the super-duper
version. DSP/CPU design underway as we speak.

Paul S.