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List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-14 by Paul Schreiber

Thanks for the list (going back to 1998!). I will get with JH and see what 
the status is for these (a lot of these are his designs).

I many cases, the only reason I never made these into a product was the 
large number of parts (I know there are folks that lust for the uber-500 
part MOTM kit). This also translates to large physical size of the pc 
boards. But, there are a few mechanical 'tricks' that I can play to allow 
some of these to fit into cabinets people have already built.

Then again: this makes the SMT route attractive because there is *very 
little penalty* in having 100 resistors or 250. The pick-and-place machine 
can put down 8 parts/second. Stuffing 100 parts costs me about $1.50 in 
"machine time" (the total cost of a SMT board is screening the paste, 
machine time, then reflow solder time).

What I'll do (next week) is review each of these and then report back:

a) is a through-hole version possible?
b) is it SMT only?

And then everyone can vote what is of interest, and what is not. I'm 
perfectly willing to work on what people wish for.

Paul S.

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> All of the following modules have been discussed at one time or other on
> this list since 2000.
>
> MOTM-2??  Dual 10000ms Delay (mentioned 8/19/00)
> MOTM-430  JH's Variable Slope Hi-Pass VCF
> MOTM-4??  JH's Dual Moog Ladder VCF
> MOTM-470  SEM VCF w/morphing output
> MOTM-475  Crow's GX-1 BP Filter
> MOTM-4??  Matrix-12 15-Mode VCF
> MOTM-880  VC Filter Envelope Generator (CS-80)
> MOTM-???  Random Vibrato Source (mentioned 11/23/00)
>
> These are unique but SMT:
>
> MOTM-102  Noise/ASR (2008)
> MOTM-520  Cloud Generator (in development w/521)
> MOTM-530  Envelope Nest (bizarre EG)
> MOTM-540  Munging Decimator (VC bit-rate reduction)
> MOTM-550  Rhythm Wheel (Seq/ASR/S&H w/pattern gen)
>
> These may not be unique but I believe the quality and unique features 
> would
> make them attractive.  Some are SMT though.
>
> MOTM-125  Pulse Width Multiplier (Crow/Anderton 4/10/2002)
> MOTM-130  Dual Pan/Fade VCA
> MOTM-180  Triple Preamp
> MOTM-450  Fixed Filter Bank (in development)
> MOTM-460  ARP 2600-4072 VCF
> MOTM-4??  Bi-Phase Clone
> MOTM-600  uSequencer
> MOTM-810  JH's VC EG (mentioned 4/2001)
> MOTM-840  Envelope Follower/Compressor
> MOTM-???  Joystick Interface
> MOTM-???  DoMOAS (Daughter of Mother of all Sequencers)
> MOTM-???  VC Phase Shifter
> MOTM-???  Synthtech Vocoder

Re: List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-14 by jneilnyc

I realize that list is just one of hypothetical modules, but I admit I
get a bit of a thrill seeing them all together like that.  It
certainly would be great to see that much "new blood" come into the
product line, even if it takes a while.

Knocking wood here that Paul can start pushing some of these through
the pipeline, and that the MOTM community is there to support the
effort.  (Certainly the last day or two of communal stock-taking is a
good start, it's the most alive the list has been in ages).



--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the list (going back to 1998!). I will get with JH and
see what 
> the status is for these (a lot of these are his designs).
> 
> I many cases, the only reason I never made these into a product was the 
> large number of parts (I know there are folks that lust for the
uber-500 
> part MOTM kit). This also translates to large physical size of the pc 
> boards. But, there are a few mechanical 'tricks' that I can play to
allow 
> some of these to fit into cabinets people have already built.
> 
> Then again: this makes the SMT route attractive because there is *very 
> little penalty* in having 100 resistors or 250. The pick-and-place
machine 
> can put down 8 parts/second. Stuffing 100 parts costs me about $1.50 in 
> "machine time" (the total cost of a SMT board is screening the paste, 
> machine time, then reflow solder time).
> 
> What I'll do (next week) is review each of these and then report back:
> 
> a) is a through-hole version possible?
> b) is it SMT only?
> 
> And then everyone can vote what is of interest, and what is not. I'm 
> perfectly willing to work on what people wish for.
> 
> Paul S.
> 
> > All of the following modules have been discussed at one time or
other on

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> > this list since 2000.
> >
> > MOTM-2??  Dual 10000ms Delay (mentioned 8/19/00)
> > MOTM-430  JH's Variable Slope Hi-Pass VCF
> > MOTM-4??  JH's Dual Moog Ladder VCF
> > MOTM-470  SEM VCF w/morphing output
> > MOTM-475  Crow's GX-1 BP Filter
> > MOTM-4??  Matrix-12 15-Mode VCF
> > MOTM-880  VC Filter Envelope Generator (CS-80)
> > MOTM-???  Random Vibrato Source (mentioned 11/23/00)
> >
> > These are unique but SMT:
> >
> > MOTM-102  Noise/ASR (2008)
> > MOTM-520  Cloud Generator (in development w/521)
> > MOTM-530  Envelope Nest (bizarre EG)
> > MOTM-540  Munging Decimator (VC bit-rate reduction)
> > MOTM-550  Rhythm Wheel (Seq/ASR/S&H w/pattern gen)
> >
> > These may not be unique but I believe the quality and unique features 
> > would
> > make them attractive.  Some are SMT though.
> >
> > MOTM-125  Pulse Width Multiplier (Crow/Anderton 4/10/2002)
> > MOTM-130  Dual Pan/Fade VCA
> > MOTM-180  Triple Preamp
> > MOTM-450  Fixed Filter Bank (in development)
> > MOTM-460  ARP 2600-4072 VCF
> > MOTM-4??  Bi-Phase Clone
> > MOTM-600  uSequencer
> > MOTM-810  JH's VC EG (mentioned 4/2001)
> > MOTM-840  Envelope Follower/Compressor
> > MOTM-???  Joystick Interface
> > MOTM-???  DoMOAS (Daughter of Mother of all Sequencers)
> > MOTM-???  VC Phase Shifter
> > MOTM-???  Synthtech Vocoder
>

Re: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-14 by David Flores

I'd really like to see the MOTM-600 usequencer come to fruition...

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On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Paul Schreiber <synth1@airmail.net> wrote:

Thanks for the list (going back to 1998!). I will get with JH and see what
the status is for these (a lot of these are his designs).

I many cases, the only reason I never made these into a product was the
large number of parts (I know there are folks that lust for the uber-500
part MOTM kit). This also translates to large physical size of the pc
boards. But, there are a few mechanical 'tricks' that I can play to allow
some of these to fit into cabinets people have already built.

Then again: this makes the SMT route attractive because there is *very
little penalty* in having 100 resistors or 250. The pick-and-place machine
can put down 8 parts/second. Stuffing 100 parts costs me about $1.50 in
"machine time" (the total cost of a SMT board is screening the paste,
machine time, then reflow solder time).

What I'll do (next week) is review each of these and then report back:

a) is a through-hole version possible?
b) is it SMT only?

And then everyone can vote what is of interest, and what is not. I'm
perfectly willing to work on what people wish for.

Paul S.

> All of the following modules have been discussed at one time or other on
> this list since 2000.
>
> MOTM-2?? Dual 10000ms Delay (mentioned 8/19/00)
> MOTM-430 JH's Variable Slope Hi-Pass VCF
> MOTM-4?? JH's Dual Moog Ladder VCF
> MOTM-470 SEM VCF w/morphing output
> MOTM-475 Crow's GX-1 BP Filter
> MOTM-4?? Matrix-12 15-Mode VCF
> MOTM-880 VC Filter Envelope Generator (CS-80)
> MOTM-??? Random Vibrato Source (mentioned 11/23/00)
>
> These are unique but SMT:
>
> MOTM-102 Noise/ASR (2008)
> MOTM-520 Cloud Generator (in development w/521)
> MOTM-530 Envelope Nest (bizarre EG)
> MOTM-540 Munging Decimator (VC bit-rate reduction)
> MOTM-550 Rhythm Wheel (Seq/ASR/S&H w/pattern gen)
>
> These may not be unique but I believe the quality and unique features
> would
> make them attractive. Some are SMT though.
>
> MOTM-125 Pulse Width Multiplier (Crow/Anderton 4/10/2002)
> MOTM-130 Dual Pan/Fade VCA
> MOTM-180 Triple Preamp
> MOTM-450 Fixed Filter Bank (in development)
> MOTM-460 ARP 2600-4072 VCF
> MOTM-4?? Bi-Phase Clone
> MOTM-600 uSequencer
> MOTM-810 JH's VC EG (mentioned 4/2001)
> MOTM-840 Envelope Follower/Compressor
> MOTM-??? Joystick Interface
> MOTM-??? DoMOAS (Daughter of Mother of all Sequencers)
> MOTM-??? VC Phase Shifter
> MOTM-??? Synthtech Vocoder

Re: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-15 by Miguel Mendoza

Is it possible that nobody is interested on a CV quantizer? I really miss this, so much that I bought one in Eurorack format... I'm also missing a wavetable module.

Regards.

Miguel.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Paul Schreiber

To: George Kisslak

Cc: MOTM List

Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:02 AM

Subject: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

Thanks for the list (going back to 1998!). I will get with JH and see what
the status is for these (a lot of these are his designs).

I many cases, the only reason I never made these into a product was the
large number of parts (I know there are folks that lust for the uber-500
part MOTM kit). This also translates to large physical size of the pc
boards. But, there are a few mechanical 'tricks' that I can play to allow
some of these to fit into cabinets people have already built.

Then again: this makes the SMT route attractive because there is *very
little penalty* in having 100 resistors or 250. The pick-and-place machine
can put down 8 parts/second. Stuffing 100 parts costs me about $1.50 in
"machine time" (the total cost of a SMT board is screening the paste,
machine time, then reflow solder time).

What I'll do (next week) is review each of these and then report back:

a) is a through-hole version possible?
b) is it SMT only?

And then everyone can vote what is of interest, and what is not. I'm
perfectly willing to work on what people wish for.

Paul S.

> All of the following modules have been discussed at one time or other on
> this list since 2000.
>
> MOTM-2?? Dual 10000ms Delay (mentioned 8/19/00)
> MOTM-430 JH's Variable Slope Hi-Pass VCF
> MOTM-4?? JH's Dual Moog Ladder VCF
> MOTM-470 SEM VCF w/morphing output
> MOTM-475 Crow's GX-1 BP Filter
>; MOTM-4?? Matrix-12 15-Mode VCF
> MOTM-880 VC Filter Envelope Generator (CS-80)
> MOTM-??? Random Vibrato Source (mentioned 11/23/00)
>
> These are unique but SMT:
>
> MOTM-102 Noise/ASR (2008)
> MOTM-520 Cloud Generator (in development w/521)
> MOTM-530 Envelope Nest (bizarre EG)
> MOTM-540 Munging Decimator (VC bit-rate reduction)
> MOTM-550 Rhythm Wheel (Seq/ASR/S&H w/pattern gen)
>
> These may not be unique but I believe the quality and unique features
> would
> make them attractive. Some are SMT though.
>
> MOTM-125 Pulse Width Multiplier (Crow/Anderton 4/10/2002)
> MOTM-130 Dual Pan/Fade VCA
> MOTM-180 Triple Preamp
> MOTM-450 Fixed Filter Bank (in development)
> MOTM-460 ARP 2600-4072 VCF
> MOTM-4?? Bi-Phase Clone
> MOTM-600 uSequencer
> MOTM-810 JH's VC EG (mentioned 4/2001)
> MOTM-840 Envelope Follower/Compressor
> MOTM-??? Joystick Interface
> MOTM-??? DoMOAS (Daughter of Mother of all Sequencers)
> MOTM-??? VC Phase Shifter
> MOTM-??? Synthtech Vocoder

Re: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-15 by Jason Proctor

MFOS recently did a quantiser PCB. wavetables are handled by the 
Miniwave and Marc Bareille's new thing, don't know whether the latter 
has shipped yet.

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>Is it possible that nobody is interested on a CV quantizer? I really 
>miss this, so much that I bought one in Eurorack format... I'm also 
>missing a wavetable module.
>
>Regards.
>
>Miguel.
>
>

RE: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-15 by Greg James

For your consideration:

 

http://m.bareille.free.fr/modular1/quantix8/quantix8.htm

 

-Greg

 

 

  _____  

From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel
Mendoza
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:28 PM
To: MOTM List
Subject: Re: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

 

Is it possible that nobody is interested on a CV quantizer? I really miss
this, so much that I bought one in Eurorack format... I'm also missing a
wavetable module.

 

Regards.

 

Miguel.

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Paul Schreiber <mailto:synth1@...>  

To: George <mailto:groovyshaman@...>  Kisslak 

Cc: MOTM List <mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:02 AM

Subject: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

 

Thanks for the list (going back to 1998!). I will get with JH and see what 
the status is for these (a lot of these are his designs).

I many cases, the only reason I never made these into a product was the 
large number of parts (I know there are folks that lust for the uber-500 
part MOTM kit). This also translates to large physical size of the pc 
boards. But, there are a few mechanical 'tricks' that I can play to allow 
some of these to fit into cabinets people have already built.

Then again: this makes the SMT route attractive because there is *very 
little penalty* in having 100 resistors or 250. The pick-and-place machine 
can put down 8 parts/second. Stuffing 100 parts costs me about $1.50 in 
"machine time" (the total cost of a SMT board is screening the paste, 
machine time, then reflow solder time).

What I'll do (next week) is review each of these and then report back:

a) is a through-hole version possible?
b) is it SMT only?

And then everyone can vote what is of interest, and what is not. I'm 
perfectly willing to work on what people wish for.

Paul S.

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> All of the following modules have been discussed at one time or other on
> this list since 2000.
>
> MOTM-2?? Dual 10000ms Delay (mentioned 8/19/00)
> MOTM-430 JH's Variable Slope Hi-Pass VCF
> MOTM-4?? JH's Dual Moog Ladder VCF
> MOTM-470 SEM VCF w/morphing output
> MOTM-475 Crow's GX-1 BP Filter
> MOTM-4?? Matrix-12 15-Mode VCF
> MOTM-880 VC Filter Envelope Generator (CS-80)
> MOTM-??? Random Vibrato Source (mentioned 11/23/00)
>
> These are unique but SMT:
>
> MOTM-102 Noise/ASR (2008)
> MOTM-520 Cloud Generator (in development w/521)
> MOTM-530 Envelope Nest (bizarre EG)
> MOTM-540 Munging Decimator (VC bit-rate reduction)
> MOTM-550 Rhythm Wheel (Seq/ASR/S&H w/pattern gen)
>
> These may not be unique but I believe the quality and unique features 
> would
> make them attractive. Some are SMT though.
>
> MOTM-125 Pulse Width Multiplier (Crow/Anderton 4/10/2002)
> MOTM-130 Dual Pan/Fade VCA
> MOTM-180 Triple Preamp
> MOTM-450 Fixed Filter Bank (in development)
> MOTM-460 ARP 2600-4072 VCF
> MOTM-4?? Bi-Phase Clone
> MOTM-600 uSequencer
> MOTM-810 JH's VC EG (mentioned 4/2001)
> MOTM-840 Envelope Follower/Compressor
> MOTM-??? Joystick Interface
> MOTM-??? DoMOAS (Daughter of Mother of all Sequencers)
> MOTM-??? VC Phase Shifter
> MOTM-??? Synthtech Vocoder

RE: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-15 by Greg James

BTW: If we can get enough demand for them, Scott at Bridechamber (who is
also keenly interested in this one) could do a run of MOTM format panels.
I've already notified him of my interest some months back.

 

-Greg

 

  _____  

From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
James
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:41 PM
To: 'MOTM List'
Subject: RE: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

 

For your consideration:

 

http://m.bareille.free.fr/modular1/quantix8/quantix8.htm

 

-Greg

 

 

  _____  

From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel
Mendoza
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:28 PM
To: MOTM List
Subject: Re: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

 

Is it possible that nobody is interested on a CV quantizer? I really miss
this, so much that I bought one in Eurorack format... I'm also missing a
wavetable module.

 

Regards.

 

Miguel.

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Paul Schreiber <mailto:synth1@...>  

To: George <mailto:groovyshaman@...>  Kisslak 

Cc: MOTM List <mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:02 AM

Subject: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

 

Thanks for the list (going back to 1998!). I will get with JH and see what 
the status is for these (a lot of these are his designs).

I many cases, the only reason I never made these into a product was the 
large number of parts (I know there are folks that lust for the uber-500 
part MOTM kit). This also translates to large physical size of the pc 
boards. But, there are a few mechanical 'tricks' that I can play to allow 
some of these to fit into cabinets people have already built.

Then again: this makes the SMT route attractive because there is *very 
little penalty* in having 100 resistors or 250. The pick-and-place machine 
can put down 8 parts/second. Stuffing 100 parts costs me about $1.50 in 
"machine time" (the total cost of a SMT board is screening the paste, 
machine time, then reflow solder time).

What I'll do (next week) is review each of these and then report back:

a) is a through-hole version possible?
b) is it SMT only?

And then everyone can vote what is of interest, and what is not. I'm 
perfectly willing to work on what people wish for.

Paul S.

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> All of the following modules have been discussed at one time or other on
> this list since 2000.
>
> MOTM-2?? Dual 10000ms Delay (mentioned 8/19/00)
> MOTM-430 JH's Variable Slope Hi-Pass VCF
> MOTM-4?? JH's Dual Moog Ladder VCF
> MOTM-470 SEM VCF w/morphing output
> MOTM-475 Crow's GX-1 BP Filter
> MOTM-4?? Matrix-12 15-Mode VCF
> MOTM-880 VC Filter Envelope Generator (CS-80)
> MOTM-??? Random Vibrato Source (mentioned 11/23/00)
>
> These are unique but SMT:
>
> MOTM-102 Noise/ASR (2008)
> MOTM-520 Cloud Generator (in development w/521)
> MOTM-530 Envelope Nest (bizarre EG)
> MOTM-540 Munging Decimator (VC bit-rate reduction)
> MOTM-550 Rhythm Wheel (Seq/ASR/S&H w/pattern gen)
>
> These may not be unique but I believe the quality and unique features 
> would
> make them attractive. Some are SMT though.
>
> MOTM-125 Pulse Width Multiplier (Crow/Anderton 4/10/2002)
> MOTM-130 Dual Pan/Fade VCA
> MOTM-180 Triple Preamp
> MOTM-450 Fixed Filter Bank (in development)
> MOTM-460 ARP 2600-4072 VCF
> MOTM-4?? Bi-Phase Clone
> MOTM-600 uSequencer
> MOTM-810 JH's VC EG (mentioned 4/2001)
> MOTM-840 Envelope Follower/Compressor
> MOTM-??? Joystick Interface
> MOTM-??? DoMOAS (Daughter of Mother of all Sequencers)
> MOTM-??? VC Phase Shifter
> MOTM-??? Synthtech Vocoder

Re: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-15 by Miguel Mendoza

From my humble point of view, there are many different type of filters, envelopes, VCAs, etc in MOTM format but no sequencers, quanticers, vocoders, digital waves, compresors, even equalizers or more exoteric modules like the Buchla Source of Uncertainity. I personally would be interested on these.

Miguel.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Paul Schreiber

To: George Kisslak

Cc: MOTM List

Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:02 AM

Subject: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

Thanks for the list (going back to 1998!). I will get with JH and see what
the status is for these (a lot of these are his designs).

I many cases, the only reason I never made these into a product was the
large number of parts (I know there are folks that lust for the uber-500
part MOTM kit). This also translates to large physical size of the pc
boards. But, there are a few mechanical 'tricks' that I can play to allow
some of these to fit into cabinets people have already built.

Then again: this makes the SMT route attractive because there is *very
little penalty* in having 100 resistors or 250. The pick-and-place machine
can put down 8 parts/second. Stuffing 100 parts costs me about $1.50 in
"machine time" (the total cost of a SMT board is screening the paste,
machine time, then reflow solder time).

What I'll do (next week) is review each of these and then report back:

a) is a through-hole version possible?
b) is it SMT only?

And then everyone can vote what is of interest, and what is not. I'm
perfectly willing to work on what people wish for.

Paul S.

> All of the following modules have been discussed at one time or other on
> this list since 2000.
>
> MOTM-2?? Dual 10000ms Delay (mentioned 8/19/00)
> MOTM-430 JH's Variable Slope Hi-Pass VCF
> MOTM-4?? JH's Dual Moog Ladder VCF
> MOTM-470 SEM VCF w/morphing output
> MOTM-475 Crow's GX-1 BP Filter
> MOTM-4?? Matrix-12 15-Mode VCF
> MOTM-880 VC Filter Envelope Generator (CS-80)
> MOTM-??? Random Vibrato Source (mentioned 11/23/00)
>
> These are unique but SMT:
>
> MOTM-102 Noise/ASR (2008)
> MOTM-520 Cloud Generator (in development w/521)
> MOTM-530 Envelope Nest (bizarre EG)
> MOTM-540 Munging Decimator (VC bit-rate reduction)
> MOTM-550 Rhythm Wheel (Seq/ASR/S&H w/pattern gen)
>
> These may not be unique but I believe the quality and unique features
> would
> make them attractive. Some are SMT though.
>
> MOTM-125 Pulse Width Multiplier (Crow/Anderton 4/10/2002)
> MOTM-130 Dual Pan/Fade VCA
> MOTM-180 Triple Preamp
> MOTM-450 Fixed Filter Bank (in development)
> MOTM-460 ARP 2600-4072 VCF
> MOTM-4?? Bi-Phase Clone
> MOTM-600 uSequencer
> MOTM-810 JH's VC EG (mentioned 4/2001)
> MOTM-840 Envelope Follower/Compressor
> MOTM-??? Joystick Interface
> MOTM-??? DoMOAS (Daughter of Mother of all Sequencers)
> MOTM-??? VC Phase Shifter
> MOTM-??? Synthtech Vocoder

Re: List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-15 by cormallen

I'd *love* a CV quantizer - I've tried using my Miniwaves for
quantization, but 8-bit lookup tables aren't accurate enough for
pleasant tuning!  Ideally a quantizer with at least two channels...

On the list below, I'd be particularly interested in the 130 Pan/Fade,
810 VC-EG, 2?? Delay and 450 FFB.  (Oh, and the vocoder, if I could
afford it!)

(I'm also really tempted by the modcan vector fader.  Anyone made a
black panel for that one?)

Harry

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Miguel Mendoza" <miguel@...> wrote:
>
> Is it possible that nobody is interested on a CV quantizer? I really
miss this, so much that I bought one in Eurorack format... I'm also
missing a wavetable module.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Miguel.
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Paul Schreiber 
>   To: George Kisslak 
>   Cc: MOTM List 
>   Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:02 AM
>   Subject: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules
> 
> 
>   Thanks for the list (going back to 1998!). I will get with JH and
see what 
>   the status is for these (a lot of these are his designs).
> 
>   I many cases, the only reason I never made these into a product
was the 
>   large number of parts (I know there are folks that lust for the
uber-500 
>   part MOTM kit). This also translates to large physical size of the pc 
>   boards. But, there are a few mechanical 'tricks' that I can play
to allow 
>   some of these to fit into cabinets people have already built.
> 
>   Then again: this makes the SMT route attractive because there is
*very 
>   little penalty* in having 100 resistors or 250. The pick-and-place
machine 
>   can put down 8 parts/second. Stuffing 100 parts costs me about
$1.50 in 
>   "machine time" (the total cost of a SMT board is screening the paste, 
>   machine time, then reflow solder time).
> 
>   What I'll do (next week) is review each of these and then report back:
> 
>   a) is a through-hole version possible?
>   b) is it SMT only?
> 
>   And then everyone can vote what is of interest, and what is not. I'm 
>   perfectly willing to work on what people wish for.
> 
>   Paul S.
> 
>   > All of the following modules have been discussed at one time or
other on
>   > this list since 2000.
>   >
>   > MOTM-2?? Dual 10000ms Delay (mentioned 8/19/00)
>   > MOTM-430 JH's Variable Slope Hi-Pass VCF
>   > MOTM-4?? JH's Dual Moog Ladder VCF
>   > MOTM-470 SEM VCF w/morphing output
>   > MOTM-475 Crow's GX-1 BP Filter
>   > MOTM-4?? Matrix-12 15-Mode VCF
>   > MOTM-880 VC Filter Envelope Generator (CS-80)
>   > MOTM-??? Random Vibrato Source (mentioned 11/23/00)
>   >
>   > These are unique but SMT:
>   >
>   > MOTM-102 Noise/ASR (2008)
>   > MOTM-520 Cloud Generator (in development w/521)
>   > MOTM-530 Envelope Nest (bizarre EG)
>   > MOTM-540 Munging Decimator (VC bit-rate reduction)
>   > MOTM-550 Rhythm Wheel (Seq/ASR/S&H w/pattern gen)
>   >
>   > These may not be unique but I believe the quality and unique
features

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>   > would
>   > make them attractive. Some are SMT though.
>   >
>   > MOTM-125 Pulse Width Multiplier (Crow/Anderton 4/10/2002)
>   > MOTM-130 Dual Pan/Fade VCA
>   > MOTM-180 Triple Preamp
>   > MOTM-450 Fixed Filter Bank (in development)
>   > MOTM-460 ARP 2600-4072 VCF
>   > MOTM-4?? Bi-Phase Clone
>   > MOTM-600 uSequencer
>   > MOTM-810 JH's VC EG (mentioned 4/2001)
>   > MOTM-840 Envelope Follower/Compressor
>   > MOTM-??? Joystick Interface
>   > MOTM-??? DoMOAS (Daughter of Mother of all Sequencers)
>   > MOTM-??? VC Phase Shifter
>   > MOTM-??? Synthtech Vocoder
>

Re: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-15 by ach_gott@yahoo.com

Iirc, these were listed as being next up once the ian fritz vcos were out the door. I am definitely building several of these. They're one of the most interesting diy modules to come along in some time and that's saying a lot given all of the superlative offerings out there right now.

cheers,
eric f

Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.

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From: "Greg James"
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:44:05 -0500
To: 'MOTM List'<motm@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

BTW: If we can get enough demand for them, Scott at Bridechamber (who is also keenly interested in this one) could do a run of MOTM format panels. I’ve already notified him of my interest some months back.

-Greg

From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg James
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:41 PM
To: 'MOTM List'
Subject: RE: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

For your consideration:

http://m.bareille.free.fr/modular1/quantix8/quantix8.htm

-Greg

From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Mendoza
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:28 PM
To: MOTM List
Subject: Re: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

Is it possible that nobody is interested on a CV quantizer? I really miss this, so much that I bought one in Eurorack format... I'm also missing a wavetable module.

Regards.

Miguel.

----- Original Message -----

From: Paul Schreiber

To: George Kisslak

Cc: MOTM List

Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:02 AM

Subject: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

Thanks for the list (going back to 1998!). I will get with JH and see what
the status is for these (a lot of these are his designs).

I many cases, the only reason I never made these into a product was the
large number of parts (I know there are folks that lust for the uber-500
part MOTM kit). This also translates to large physical size of the pc
boards. But, there are a few mechanical 'tricks' that I can play to allow
some of these to fit into cabinets people have already built.

Then again: this makes the SMT route attractive because there is *very
little penalty* in having 100 resistors or 250. The pick-and-place machine
can put down 8 parts/second. Stuffing 100 parts costs me about $1.50 in
"machine time" (the total cost of a SMT board is screening the paste,
machine time, then reflow solder time).

What I'll do (next week) is review each of these and then report back:

a) is a through-hole version possible?
b) is it SMT only?

And then everyone can vote what is of interest, and what is not. I'm
perfectly willing to work on what people wish for.

Paul S.

> All of the following modules have been discussed at one time or other on
> this list since 2000.
>
> MOTM-2?? Dual 10000ms Delay (mentioned 8/19/00)
> MOTM-430 JH's Variable Slope Hi-Pass VCF
> MOTM-4?? JH's Dual Moog Ladder VCF
> MOTM-470 SEM VCF w/morphing output
> MOTM-475 Crow's GX-1 BP Filter
> MOTM-4?? Matrix-12 15-Mode VCF
> MOTM-880 VC Filter Envelope Generator (CS-80)
> MOTM-??? Random Vibrato Source (mentioned 11/23/00)
>
> These are unique but SMT:
>
> MOTM-102 Noise/ASR (2008)
> MOTM-520 Cloud Generator (in development w/521)
> MOTM-530 Envelope Nest (bizarre EG)
> MOTM-540 Munging Decimator (VC bit-rate reduction)
> MOTM-550 Rhythm Wheel (Seq/ASR/S&H w/pattern gen)
>
> These may not be unique but I believe the quality and unique features
> would
> make them attractive. Some are SMT though.
>
> MOTM-125 Pulse Width Multiplier (Crow/Anderton 4/10/2002)
> MOTM-130 Dual Pan/Fade VCA
> MOTM-180 Triple Preamp
> MOTM-450 Fixed Filter Bank (in development)
> MOTM-460 ARP 2600-4072 VCF
> MOTM-4?? Bi-Phase Clone
> MOTM-600 uSequencer
> MOTM-810 JH's VC EG (mentioned 4/2001)
> MOTM-840 Envelope Follower/Compressor
> MOTM-??? Joystick Interface
> MOTM-??? DoMOAS (Daughter of Mother of all Sequencers)
> MOTM-??? VC Phase Shifter
> MOTM-??? Synthtech Vocoder

Re: [motm] Re: List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-15 by Richard Brewster

I use quantizers quite a bit.   I have two Wiard/Blacet Miniwaves and 
also a Modcan Dual Quantizer 55B.  The Modcan is a very nice quantizer 
with all the features I need.  But if Paul Schreiber makes any control 
voltage module with a quantizer, I'll be in for one or two of those.

Richard Brewster
http://www.pugix.com

cormallen wrote:

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> I'd *love* a CV quantizer - I've tried using my Miniwaves for
> quantization, but 8-bit lookup tables aren't accurate enough for
> pleasant tuning!  Ideally a quantizer with at least two channels...
>
> On the list below, I'd be particularly interested in the 130 Pan/Fade,
> 810 VC-EG, 2?? Delay and 450 FFB.  (Oh, and the vocoder, if I could
> afford it!)
>
> (I'm also really tempted by the modcan vector fader.  Anyone made a
> black panel for that one?)
>
> Harry
>

RE: [motm] Re: List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-15 by John L Rice

A quantizer is high on my list but unless something else comes along that
seems like a better fit, I'll be getting the Modcan 55B.

John L Rice

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-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Brewster
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:19 PM
To: cormallen
Cc: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] Re: List of proposed/discussed modules

I use quantizers quite a bit.   I have two Wiard/Blacet Miniwaves and 
also a Modcan Dual Quantizer 55B.  The Modcan is a very nice quantizer 
with all the features I need.  But if Paul Schreiber makes any control 
voltage module with a quantizer, I'll be in for one or two of those.

Richard Brewster
http://www.pugix.com

cormallen wrote:
> I'd *love* a CV quantizer - I've tried using my Miniwaves for
> quantization, but 8-bit lookup tables aren't accurate enough for
> pleasant tuning!  Ideally a quantizer with at least two channels...
>
> On the list below, I'd be particularly interested in the 130 Pan/Fade,
> 810 VC-EG, 2?? Delay and 450 FFB.  (Oh, and the vocoder, if I could
> afford it!)
>
> (I'm also really tempted by the modcan vector fader.  Anyone made a
> black panel for that one?)
>
> Harry
>   




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Re: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules

2009-02-16 by Ross Stapf

I would be interested in a CV quantizer that can do microtonal scales.
 
I am very interested in the Cloud Generator.  Having heard it first hand I can just say it is amazing.
 
Ross Stapf
Cedar Hill TX

--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Miguel Mendoza <miguel@...> wrote:

From: Miguel Mendoza <miguel@...>
Subject: Re: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules
To: "MOTM List" <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 11:28 AM







Is it possible that nobody is interested on a CV quantizer? I really miss this, so much that I bought one in Eurorack format... I'm also missing a wavetable module.
 
Regards.
 
Miguel.
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Schreiber 
To: George Kisslak 
Cc: MOTM List 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:02 AM
Subject: [motm] List of proposed/discussed modules



Thanks for the list (going back to 1998!). I will get with JH and see what 
the status is for these (a lot of these are his designs).

I many cases, the only reason I never made these into a product was the 
large number of parts (I know there are folks that lust for the uber-500 
part MOTM kit). This also translates to large physical size of the pc 
boards. But, there are a few mechanical 'tricks' that I can play to allow 
some of these to fit into cabinets people have already built.

Then again: this makes the SMT route attractive because there is *very 
little penalty* in having 100 resistors or 250. The pick-and-place machine 
can put down 8 parts/second. Stuffing 100 parts costs me about $1.50 in 
"machine time" (the total cost of a SMT board is screening the paste, 
machine time, then reflow solder time).

What I'll do (next week) is review each of these and then report back:

a) is a through-hole version possible?
b) is it SMT only?

And then everyone can vote what is of interest, and what is not. I'm 
perfectly willing to work on what people wish for.

Paul S.

Show quoted textHide quoted text

> All of the following modules have been discussed at one time or other on
> this list since 2000.
>
> MOTM-2?? Dual 10000ms Delay (mentioned 8/19/00)
> MOTM-430 JH's Variable Slope Hi-Pass VCF
> MOTM-4?? JH's Dual Moog Ladder VCF
> MOTM-470 SEM VCF w/morphing output
> MOTM-475 Crow's GX-1 BP Filter
> MOTM-4?? Matrix-12 15-Mode VCF
> MOTM-880 VC Filter Envelope Generator (CS-80)
> MOTM-??? Random Vibrato Source (mentioned 11/23/00)
>
> These are unique but SMT:
>
> MOTM-102 Noise/ASR (2008)
> MOTM-520 Cloud Generator (in development w/521)
> MOTM-530 Envelope Nest (bizarre EG)
> MOTM-540 Munging Decimator (VC bit-rate reduction)
> MOTM-550 Rhythm Wheel (Seq/ASR/S&H w/pattern gen)
>
> These may not be unique but I believe the quality and unique features 
> would
> make them attractive. Some are SMT though.
>
> MOTM-125 Pulse Width Multiplier (Crow/Anderton 4/10/2002)
> MOTM-130 Dual Pan/Fade VCA
> MOTM-180 Triple Preamp
> MOTM-450 Fixed Filter Bank (in development)
> MOTM-460 ARP 2600-4072 VCF
> MOTM-4?? Bi-Phase Clone
> MOTM-600 uSequencer
> MOTM-810 JH's VC EG (mentioned 4/2001)
> MOTM-840 Envelope Follower/Compressor
> MOTM-??? Joystick Interface
> MOTM-??? DoMOAS (Daughter of Mother of all Sequencers)
> MOTM-??? VC Phase Shifter
> MOTM-??? Synthtech Vocoder

Quantizer modules (was List of...)

2009-02-16 by eric f

Any quantizer delivered by Synth Tech would have to offer features that are significantly different from the current offerings on the market.  Apart from using tuning tables (which would allow it to be used like a sequencer when driven from an LFO or the 730) and thereby allowing microtuning (mentioned in another email), I can't think of anything.  It would have to be partnered with another function.  

There's also, as John alludes to, the time to market factor.  The longer this function remains unaddressed in the product line, the more likely users are to pursue and purchase existing solutions, of which there are several.

cheers,
eric f



--- On Sun, 2/15/09, John L Rice <Drummer@...> wrote:

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From: John L Rice <Drummer@ImJohn.com>
Subject: RE: [motm] Re: List of proposed/discussed modules
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 5:34 PM

            A quantizer is high on my list but unless something else comes along that

seems like a better fit, I'll be getting the Modcan 55B.

John L Rice 

-----Original Message-----

From: motm@yahoogroups. com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

Richard Brewster

Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:19 PM

To: cormallen

Cc: motm@yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [motm] Re: List of proposed/discussed modules

I use quantizers quite a bit.   I have two Wiard/Blacet Miniwaves and 

also a Modcan Dual Quantizer 55B.  The Modcan is a very nice quantizer 

with all the features I need.  But if Paul Schreiber makes any control 

voltage module with a quantizer, I'll be in for one or two of those.

Richard Brewster

http://www.pugix. com

cormallen wrote:

> I'd *love* a CV quantizer - I've tried using my Miniwaves for

> quantization, but 8-bit lookup tables aren't accurate enough for

> pleasant tuning!  Ideally a quantizer with at least two channels...

>

> On the list below, I'd be particularly interested in the 130 Pan/Fade,

> 810 VC-EG, 2?? Delay and 450 FFB.  (Oh, and the vocoder, if I could

> afford it!)

>

> (I'm also really tempted by the modcan vector fader.  Anyone made a

> black panel for that one?)

>

> Harry

>   

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RE: [motm] Quantizer modules (was List of...)

2009-02-16 by Greg James

"The longer this function remains unaddressed."

 

Exactly the reason why I bought my 4 OMS VC-ADSR's and 2 OMS 804s from Paul
(Krisp1) over the last several months. I can't wait years for essential
modules.

 

Don't get me wrong, the esoteric stuff is great. But I want to build upon a
core, well-spec'd, MOTM quality, analog system.

 

-Greg

 

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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eric f
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:46 AM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Quantizer modules (was List of...)

Any quantizer delivered by Synth Tech would have to offer features that are
significantly different from the current offerings on the market.  Apart
from using tuning tables (which would allow it to be used like a sequencer
when driven from an LFO or the 730) and thereby allowing microtuning
(mentioned in another email), I can't think of anything.  It would have to
be partnered with another function.  

There's also, as John alludes to, the time to market factor.  The longer
this function remains unaddressed in the product line, the more likely users
are to pursue and purchase existing solutions, of which there are several.

cheers,
eric f

--- On Sun, 2/15/09, John L Rice <Drummer@...> wrote:

From: John L Rice <Drummer@...>
Subject: RE: [motm] Re: List of proposed/discussed modules
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 5:34 PM

A quantizer is high on my list but unless something else comes along that
seems like a better fit, I'll be getting the Modcan 55B.

John L Rice 

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups. <mailto:motm%40yahoogroups.com>  com
[mailto:motm@yahoogroups. <mailto:motm%40yahoogroups.com>  com] On Behalf Of
Richard Brewster
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:19 PM
To: cormallen
Cc: motm@yahoogroups. <mailto:motm%40yahoogroups.com>  com
Subject: Re: [motm] Re: List of proposed/discussed modules

I use quantizers quite a bit. I have two Wiard/Blacet Miniwaves and 
also a Modcan Dual Quantizer 55B. The Modcan is a very nice quantizer 
with all the features I need. But if Paul Schreiber makes any control 
voltage module with a quantizer, I'll be in for one or two of those.

Richard Brewster
http://www.pugix. com <http://www.pugix.com> 

cormallen wrote:
> I'd *love* a CV quantizer - I've tried using my Miniwaves for
> quantization, but 8-bit lookup tables aren't accurate enough for
> pleasant tuning! Ideally a quantizer with at least two channels...
>
> On the list below, I'd be particularly interested in the 130 Pan/Fade,
> 810 VC-EG, 2?? Delay and 450 FFB. (Oh, and the vocoder, if I could
> afford it!)
>
> (I'm also really tempted by the modcan vector fader. Anyone made a
> black panel for that one?)
>
> Harry
> 

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