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but I can pretty much guarantee that I won't buy a fully assembled unit.
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I'm interested to know if this expands across *any* future MOTM offering, or 
just
the FFB. Is this 'bias' also for the Cloud Generator and the Pulse Divider?

Paul S.

I have no interest in the 730 because I can't figure out what I'd do with
it. I can't see spending $399 to buy one as an experiment to determine its
usefulness to me.
 
Honestly I haven't yet evaluated my level of interest in the Cloud
Generator. It's not available for me to purchase, ergo, evaluating my level
of interest in its purchase is not yet relevant to me. I understand the
nature of its architecture pretty much precludes offering it in any format
other than fully assembled.
 
--Adam

 

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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Schreiber
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:14 AM
To: lists@...; 'MOTM List'
Subject: [motm] Totally against *any* assembled module?




but I can pretty much guarantee that I won't buy a fully assembled unit.
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I'm interested to know if this expands across *any* future MOTM offering, or

just
the FFB. Is this 'bias' also for the Cloud Generator and the Pulse Divider?

Paul S.

I think I'm the opposite of a lot of people here. Lately, I'd rather 
have something that I can take out of the box thats finished and 
ready to go.  I didn't used to be that way, but I have way too many 
modular projects waiting to get built.  I just don't have the time 
to source parts and build them.  (I still have a few MOTM full kits 
I haven't built yet)  So I'm to the point where I don't want to add 
to my modular "to do" list. 
-Larry 


--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:
>
> 
> but I can pretty much guarantee that I won't buy a fully assembled 
unit.
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> 
> I'm interested to know if this expands across *any* future MOTM 
offering, or 
> just
> the FFB. Is this 'bias' also for the Cloud Generator and the Pulse 
Divider?

> 
> Paul S.
>

For me, the joy of synths comes from these sources:

1. coming up with an idea for a useful module, could be based on some  
existing piece of hardware
2. figuring out how to actually build the thing, usually with a  
breadboard
3. making a board layout
4. building a prototype
5. testing and tweaking the prototype
6. building the final version
7. using the new module to create sounds

With a fully assembled module, I only get #7. With a kit, I still get  
to build it and test it. And there's always the possibility of hacking  
in some modification or tweaking some resistor values to enhance  
functionality (like the Oakley OMS-410 or Larry's 110 VCA resistor  
tweaking). That's not so easy to do with an assembled SMT unit,  
especially if you don't even get a schematic with it. So a kit, even  
if it's just a board and panel, is still a lot more fun than a "plug  
and play" unit.

However, I'm not completely opposed to assembled units. I have the  
Encore Electronics UEG and FS, but in those cases they weren't  
available as kits, and there wasn't a good DIY alternative at the  
time. I'm not biased against the 520 and 730 as assembled units, but I  
would look for DIY alternatives if I considered those to be "must  
have" modules.

I hate to be a parrot, but what Adam says below is exactly my opinion  
on the 730 and 520 (cloud generator).

On 13-Feb-09, at 10:28 AM, Adam Schabtach wrote:

> I have no interest in the 730 because I can't figure out what I'd do  
> with it. I can't see spending $399 to buy one as an experiment to  
> determine its usefulness to me.
>
> Honestly I haven't yet evaluated my level of interest in the Cloud  
> Generator. It's not available for me to purchase, ergo, evaluating  
> my level of interest in its purchase is not yet relevant to me. I  
> understand the nature of its architecture pretty much precludes  
> offering it in any format other than fully assembled.
>
> --Adam
>

> 1. coming up with an idea for a useful module, could be based on some  
> existing piece of hardware
> 2. figuring out how to actually build the thing, usually with a  
> breadboard
> 3. making a board layout
> 4. building a prototype
> 5. testing and tweaking the prototype
> 6. building the final version
> 7. using the new module to create sounds
> 
> With a fully assembled module, I only get #7. 

But *I* get to do 1-6 :)

Because I suck at #7.

Paul S.