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New cabinets

2008-11-22 by djbrow54

Well I finally gave up and decided to build another cabinet.  I'm 
full at 102U and I have several modules with no place to put them!

I decided to go to a 4th tier of 24U and eliminate my side posts.  
I'll just stack the cabinets on top of each other.  I built a 
"garage" for the ground level to bring my first cabinet up over the 
top of my keyboard.

What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction" 
without harming the finish over time?

Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side 
rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.

I'll miss the rotation of the lower and upper cabinets but I don't 
think I want so much mass up high!

Dave
http://modularsynthesis.com/

RE: [motm] New cabinets

2008-11-23 by John L Rice

Hi Dave,

I'm always impressed with all of the work you've done!!! :-)

I'd think that using large rubber feet would be best, maybe 6 or 8 per
cabinet. That way if you are moving things and have to set them on the
ground etc the finish will be protected. You may also want to drill out some
depressions in the tops of the cabinets (maybe an 1/8" to 1/4" or so . .
depends on the thickness of the wood) where the feet go so the cabinets
always line up perfectly (and stay that way if bumped or during mild earth
quakes ;-).  

Maybe something like these would work well:
Hard rubber equipment foot. Countersunk, metal reinforced hole for #8 screw.
Black. 1.46" diameter x 0.41" high
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/RF-605/HARD-RUBBER-FOOT-1.46
-X-0.41-H/-/1.html

I look forward to seeing what you do!

John L Rice
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djbrow54
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:38 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] New cabinets

Well I finally gave up and decided to build another cabinet.  I'm 
full at 102U and I have several modules with no place to put them!

I decided to go to a 4th tier of 24U and eliminate my side posts.  
I'll just stack the cabinets on top of each other.  I built a 
"garage" for the ground level to bring my first cabinet up over the 
top of my keyboard.

What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction" 
without harming the finish over time?

Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side 
rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.

I'll miss the rotation of the lower and upper cabinets but I don't 
think I want so much mass up high!

Dave
http://modularsynthesis.com/


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Re: [motm] New cabinets

2008-11-23 by Richard Brewster

My top three dot com cabinets are separated by thin circular cork feet, 
perhaps 1/16 of an inch thick.  These are pretty standard items for 
putting under table lamps, etc..  I wanted to minimize the separation 
between the top three.  The bottom of those three sits atop the double, 
slant cabinet on large rubber feet that came with the cabinets from 
Synthesizers.com.

http://pugix.com/synth/

Richard Brewster

djbrow54 wrote:
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> Well I finally gave up and decided to build another cabinet.  I'm 
> full at 102U and I have several modules with no place to put them!
>
> I decided to go to a 4th tier of 24U and eliminate my side posts.  
> I'll just stack the cabinets on top of each other.  I built a 
> "garage" for the ground level to bring my first cabinet up over the 
> top of my keyboard.
>
> What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction" 
> without harming the finish over time?
>
> Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side 
> rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.
>
> I'll miss the rotation of the lower and upper cabinets but I don't 
> think I want so much mass up high!
>
> Dave
> http://modularsynthesis.com/
>
>

RE: [motm] New cabinets

2008-11-23 by Greg James

Dave (and John),

I would not recommend rubber or even anything synthetic colored black. I've
seen my share of wood finishes dyed with shadows of the feet from the
pigment slowly being absorbed by the lower surface. I'd second Richard's
suggestion of cork or dense felt feet.

I learned this the hard way...

-Greg
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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John L
Rice
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:10 PM
To: 'djbrow54'; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] New cabinets

Hi Dave,

I'm always impressed with all of the work you've done!!! :-)

I'd think that using large rubber feet would be best, maybe 6 or 8 per
cabinet. That way if you are moving things and have to set them on the
ground etc the finish will be protected. You may also want to drill out some
depressions in the tops of the cabinets (maybe an 1/8" to 1/4" or so . .
depends on the thickness of the wood) where the feet go so the cabinets
always line up perfectly (and stay that way if bumped or during mild earth
quakes ;-).  

Maybe something like these would work well:
Hard rubber equipment foot. Countersunk, metal reinforced hole for #8 screw.
Black. 1.46" diameter x 0.41" high
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/RF-605/HARD-RUBBER-FOOT-1.46
-X-0.41-H/-/1.html

I look forward to seeing what you do!

John L Rice

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
djbrow54
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:38 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] New cabinets

Well I finally gave up and decided to build another cabinet.  I'm 
full at 102U and I have several modules with no place to put them!

I decided to go to a 4th tier of 24U and eliminate my side posts.  
I'll just stack the cabinets on top of each other.  I built a 
"garage" for the ground level to bring my first cabinet up over the 
top of my keyboard.

What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction" 
without harming the finish over time?

Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side 
rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.

I'll miss the rotation of the lower and upper cabinets but I don't 
think I want so much mass up high!

Dave
http://modularsynthesis.com/


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RE: [motm] New cabinets

2008-11-23 by John L Rice

Good tip, Greg! I wasn't thinking about that. Although it seems it would
depend on what type of wood, finish and feet (pure rubber, neoprene, vinyl,
silicone, etc) that are used.
 
I'm not in tune with the nice furniture aspect at all since I'm using
plastic laminated road cases with rubber feet. I PREFER the look of
beautiful wood for a modular case but I plan on doing live shows someday and
I can't afford (at least not yet! ;-) to have a nice live rig AND a massive
studio setup. 

John
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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
James
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:48 PM
To: 'John L Rice'; 'djbrow54'; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] New cabinets

Dave (and John),

I would not recommend rubber or even anything synthetic colored black. I've
seen my share of wood finishes dyed with shadows of the feet from the
pigment slowly being absorbed by the lower surface. I'd second Richard's
suggestion of cork or dense felt feet.

I learned this the hard way...

-Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John L
Rice
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:10 PM
To: 'djbrow54'; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] New cabinets

Hi Dave,

I'm always impressed with all of the work you've done!!! :-)

I'd think that using large rubber feet would be best, maybe 6 or 8 per
cabinet. That way if you are moving things and have to set them on the
ground etc the finish will be protected. You may also want to drill out some
depressions in the tops of the cabinets (maybe an 1/8" to 1/4" or so . .
depends on the thickness of the wood) where the feet go so the cabinets
always line up perfectly (and stay that way if bumped or during mild earth
quakes ;-).  

Maybe something like these would work well:
Hard rubber equipment foot. Countersunk, metal reinforced hole for #8 screw.
Black. 1.46" diameter x 0.41" high
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/RF-605/HARD-RUBBER-FOOT-1.46
-X-0.41-H/-/1.html

I look forward to seeing what you do!

John L Rice

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
djbrow54
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:38 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] New cabinets

Well I finally gave up and decided to build another cabinet.  I'm 
full at 102U and I have several modules with no place to put them!

I decided to go to a 4th tier of 24U and eliminate my side posts.  
I'll just stack the cabinets on top of each other.  I built a 
"garage" for the ground level to bring my first cabinet up over the 
top of my keyboard.

What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction" 
without harming the finish over time?

Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side 
rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.

I'll miss the rotation of the lower and upper cabinets but I don't 
think I want so much mass up high!

Dave
http://modularsynthesis.com/


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RE: [motm] New cabinets

2008-11-23 by Greg James

All is well as long as you are aware of it and take it into consideration
for your circumstances.

My minimoog has brown plastic feet and I've never had any problems with
staining. But they became brittle and I ended up replacing them with new
ones because they were crumbling apart.

My DX7 left some nasty footprints on a solid oak shelf top in just 6 months.
I think rubber feet leak more pigment as they get older. It just seems like
they are chemically breaking down as they age. I wouldn't be surprised if
they even stained laminate.
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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John L
Rice
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:45 AM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] New cabinets

Good tip, Greg! I wasn't thinking about that. Although it seems it would
depend on what type of wood, finish and feet (pure rubber, neoprene, vinyl,
silicone, etc) that are used.
 
I'm not in tune with the nice furniture aspect at all since I'm using
plastic laminated road cases with rubber feet. I PREFER the look of
beautiful wood for a modular case but I plan on doing live shows someday and
I can't afford (at least not yet! ;-) to have a nice live rig AND a massive
studio setup. 

John

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
James
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:48 PM
To: 'John L Rice'; 'djbrow54'; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] New cabinets

Dave (and John),

I would not recommend rubber or even anything synthetic colored black. I've
seen my share of wood finishes dyed with shadows of the feet from the
pigment slowly being absorbed by the lower surface. I'd second Richard's
suggestion of cork or dense felt feet.

I learned this the hard way...

-Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John L
Rice
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:10 PM
To: 'djbrow54'; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] New cabinets

Hi Dave,

I'm always impressed with all of the work you've done!!! :-)

I'd think that using large rubber feet would be best, maybe 6 or 8 per
cabinet. That way if you are moving things and have to set them on the
ground etc the finish will be protected. You may also want to drill out some
depressions in the tops of the cabinets (maybe an 1/8" to 1/4" or so . .
depends on the thickness of the wood) where the feet go so the cabinets
always line up perfectly (and stay that way if bumped or during mild earth
quakes ;-).  

Maybe something like these would work well:
Hard rubber equipment foot. Countersunk, metal reinforced hole for #8 screw.
Black. 1.46" diameter x 0.41" high
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/RF-605/HARD-RUBBER-FOOT-1.46
-X-0.41-H/-/1.html

I look forward to seeing what you do!

John L Rice

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
djbrow54
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:38 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] New cabinets

Well I finally gave up and decided to build another cabinet.  I'm 
full at 102U and I have several modules with no place to put them!

I decided to go to a 4th tier of 24U and eliminate my side posts.  
I'll just stack the cabinets on top of each other.  I built a 
"garage" for the ground level to bring my first cabinet up over the 
top of my keyboard.

What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction" 
without harming the finish over time?

Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side 
rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.

I'll miss the rotation of the lower and upper cabinets but I don't 
think I want so much mass up high!

Dave
http://modularsynthesis.com/


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Re: [motm] New cabinets

2008-11-23 by Scott Juskiw

I use a layer of black felt to separate my synth cabinets. I don't  
connect the cabinets together horizontally. But I use 4 metal pins   
(leftovers from some IKEA furniture) between the cabinets, vertically,  
so that the top cabinets stay aligned with their bottom.

A lot of my studio furniture is DIY and I've used black felt as a  
separator between speakers, monitor bridges, and various synth stands.  
Felt doesn't seem to decay or leave any residue at all. I also tried  
using rubber feet but those always seem to get either gooey, or  
brittle, or leave a visible mark behind.
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> What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction"
> without harming the finish over time?
>
> Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side
> rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.
>
>

RE: [motm] New cabinets

2008-11-23 by John Mahoney

>... it seems it would depend on what type of wood,
>finish and feet (pure rubber, neoprene, vinyl,
>silicone, etc) that are used.

Yes, it apparently does depend on the materials. I've got an 
equipment rack with wood shelves on which the finish was dissolved by 
some rubber feet. The rubber feet basically melted their way through 
the clear coat, leaving indentations. The only fix would be to strip 
it and refinish it.

Cork seems like the best idea. Felt is too slippery.

John

Re: [motm] New cabinets

2008-11-23 by Stephen Drake

I also have two homebuilt 24u wide cabinets, soon to be 3. Theoretically I could have just stacked one on top of the other, but although the minwax finish is

Re: New cabinets

2008-11-23 by schabtach

I use T nuts inside the top of one cabinet and machine bolts with
washers through the bottom of the cabinet above. This joins one
cabinet to the next fairly solidly. I tried using a couple of kinds of
stick-on feet but after having a near disaster with only two cabinets
stacked, I decided I had to do something more stable when I added a
third cabinet. 

Coincidentally, I just posted a photo of my modular on my blog today:
http://studionebula.com/blog/2008/11/23/lots-of-cables
If you click on it you'll be taken to the Flickr page where you can
see a higher-resolution copy. You won't, however, be able to see the T
nuts and bolts, though; they're inside. :-)

--Adam
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> What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction" 
> without harming the finish over time?
> 
> Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side 
> rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.

RE: [motm] Re: New cabinets

2008-11-23 by John L Rice

Great looking synth, Adam! :-)

John
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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
schabtach
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:55 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Re: New cabinets

I use T nuts inside the top of one cabinet and machine bolts with
washers through the bottom of the cabinet above. This joins one
cabinet to the next fairly solidly. I tried using a couple of kinds of
stick-on feet but after having a near disaster with only two cabinets
stacked, I decided I had to do something more stable when I added a
third cabinet. 

Coincidentally, I just posted a photo of my modular on my blog today:
http://studionebula.com/blog/2008/11/23/lots-of-cables
If you click on it you'll be taken to the Flickr page where you can
see a higher-resolution copy. You won't, however, be able to see the T
nuts and bolts, though; they're inside. :-)

--Adam

> What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction" 
> without harming the finish over time?
> 
> Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side 
> rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.



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Re: New cabinets

2008-11-30 by djbrow54

I ended up going with some thick felt between the cabinets. I cut the 
felt about 1/2" smaller than the top of each cabinet. I was surprised 
that there was reasonable friction. Each cabinet was solid but 
would slide if you really pushed on them.  I put a photo on the main 
page at http://modularsynthesis.com/

I polished up a piece of 1" aluminum that I ran down each side with a 
stainless wingnut and stud into each pivot mount of the cabinet to 
tie them all together. It holds them pretty firm and looks pretty 
sharp since it adds some shininess to dress up the sides.  I put a 
photo at the bottom of my cabinet page at http://modularsynthesis.com/
cabinet/cabinet.htm

Now I have 7U of free cabinet space and an empty 9U cabinet ...

Dave

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "djbrow54" <davebr@...> wrote:
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> What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction" 
> without harming the finish over time?
> 
> Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side 
> rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.
>
> Dave

RE: [motm] Re: New cabinets

2008-11-30 by John L Rice

Wow, looks awesome, Dave! Beautiful, impressive and most interesting! :-)

The only suggestion I have would be to replace the wing nuts with some large
Fluted Phenolic Knobs!
http://carrlane.net/Catalog/index.cfm/27825071F0B221118070C1C513E111D081B000
6280B1713050245221E0107070F1A3C3B285352435C

In case the stupid long link above doesn't survive go to:
http://carrlane.net/Catalog/index.cfm
then click on the Handles/Knobs/Screw Clamps link
then click on the Fluted Knobs picture
then click on the Fluted Knobs Phenolic picture

Actually, this page is a great way to see a lot of the possibilities:
http://www.jwwinco.com/products/section8/index.html

John L Rice
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-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
djbrow54
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:32 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Re: New cabinets

I ended up going with some thick felt between the cabinets. I cut the 
felt about 1/2" smaller than the top of each cabinet. I was surprised 
that there was reasonable friction. Each cabinet was solid but 
would slide if you really pushed on them.  I put a photo on the main 
page at http://modularsynthesis.com/

I polished up a piece of 1" aluminum that I ran down each side with a 
stainless wingnut and stud into each pivot mount of the cabinet to 
tie them all together. It holds them pretty firm and looks pretty 
sharp since it adds some shininess to dress up the sides.  I put a 
photo at the bottom of my cabinet page at http://modularsynthesis.com/
cabinet/cabinet.htm

Now I have 7U of free cabinet space and an empty 9U cabinet ...

Dave

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "djbrow54" <davebr@...> wrote:
> What do people put between their cabinets for a bit of "stiction" 
> without harming the finish over time?
> 
> Do people fasten their cabinets together somehow?  I can make side 
> rails that connect them together using the side pivot nuts.
>
> Dave




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Video synthesis

2008-11-30 by Paul Bower

hello all,

i mentioned a month or so an interest in video synthesis - well, thanks to a reckless regard to professional advice, and the wonders of ebay, i present to you all:

Jury Gagarin In Space
much fun with soft toys and jamming the composite sync signal - some of you might recognise the backdrops - that very large NASA 50th anniversary book
the 'Gagarin' effect is achieved by pumping composite video direct into a Blacet Time Machine, and some of the glitching utilises a little passive mixer to mix the video signal with LFOs & high frequency VCOs

Autopong II
this is something i've been messing around with for a few years, but couldn't record it except for using the video capture mode on my still camera
it's a Velleman kit modified so that the paddle switches are controlled by a little voltage controlled relay module i built. the 'ai' controlling the game play is a pair of fast LFOs and a single S&H controlling a Cat Girl gated comparator (this in turn is switching the relays). the trick here seems to be to get the LFO speeds correct - there's a sweet spot, which if you don't hit it, the paddles just follow each other up & down the screen


hope you all enjoy - they were certainly fun to make (although there was some gnashing of teeth with Autopong, until i realised i'd 'fixed' the Velleman kit by wiring an LED back to front, which caused it to stop working ......................)



cheers
paul




Paul Bower
Un! Recordings

www.unrecordings.co.uk
www.youtube.com/user/unrecordings
www.myspace.com/unrecordings
www.last.fm/label/Un%21/



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