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Response to Paul's INDIGNATION

Response to Paul's INDIGNATION

2008-10-01 by dragonflys_eye

Man do you have some nerve!  You actually appear to be angry at me for sharing the fact 
that I (as well as others ) are being victimized by you and your company.  You have my 
money in your pocket, and you have not shipped the products that I paid for.  And you are 
angry that I would talk about this on the forum.  Communicating with you has produced 
no results, I think everyone on this forum can survive one members' justified rant.
I would like to address your remarks one at a time...

a) complaining to the MOTM list about your specific delivery issues with me
is *NOT* helping you, or me, or my company.

I am in a position of nothing to lose.  You have my money.  You have the kits I paid for. I 
am not trying to motivate you by complaining, and I could care less if it is damaging to 
MOTM/Synthtech or to Paul Schrieber, by discussing how I'm being screwed by your 
company.  I am seeking the thoughts of others on this list regarding who else is getting 
screwed, how badly, and what they feel is the appropriate way to deal with it.

b) This year alone, I have shipped 577 orders, which included 189 full
kits/assembled modules. One can quickly figure out most of these were CEM
ICs and/or 'MOTM 2.0' orders. But right now, these are the orders that are
funding the company until I can start shipping the new stuff.

How is this relevant?  You mean the money I paid for kits and parts isn't enough to pay for 
those kits and parts? You listed the kits and parts as stock on hand, was that not true? 
First you have to sell some stuff to some other people so we can fund your company, and 
then maybe later on you'll ship?  Or are you just saying look at all the work I've 
accomplished, just because you didn't get what you paid for doesn't mean I don't work 
hard.  I don't get it apparently.

c) So, it's not like nothing is going on here. Did I mention I've also
designed 2 more new modules and have 1 on a pc board prototype? I have got
all of the MOTM-730 stuff ready to go (at a cost of over $4800 to me, with 1
shipped and not even paid for yet).

Here's where it sounds to me like you're off the deep end.  If someone pays you for a 
product that you have sold them, then it is your responsibility to deliver that product.  Try 
to imagine from the perspective of a customer who has paid for a synth kit and already 
waited a couple of years for it, how would you feel everytime you hear the enthusiastic 
news of how Paul is working on something OTHER than delivering the kit you paid for? 
And now you are relating to me how you have spent all this time designing new modules, 
when you could be putting the parts for a kit into a package and mailing it to the person 
who paid you for it two years ago.  I'm sure designing new modules is more fun than 
packing a kit.  But if you want to be in the business of selling your products, then that 
includes more than just accepting payment from people, you're actually responsible for 
delivering the product as well.

d) In terms of kitting, I am kitting in *order* from most requested to least
requested. Guess what the least requested kit is? MOTM-101.

Well Paul, perhaps the MOTM-101 kit will always be the least requested kit.  Does that 
mean I will never get it?  Does that mean I deserve to wait longer than someone who pays 
you two months ago for one of the "popular" kits?  I can't teach you ethics, that was your 
parent's job.  I think it is common sense that those orders that were placed first should 
get filled first, and in the interest of being fair- I would invite anyone who feels differently 
to share their opinion now.

e) Am I behind in kitting/shipping? Yes, as always. Is this *why* I am
getting rid of the kits, and moving to all SMT production? Why, yes again. I
am TIRED of kitting just as much as you are TIRED of waiting.

I understand you are tired of kitting.

f) Please do no assume that paying me is some sort of acceleration to
shipping. It is not. If you don't want to pay me, then don't order by
PayPal. If you want a refund, *just ask for it*. If you want really fast
shipping, call Shawn at AH and order MOTM Frac :)

This is a very convenient argument to present now, I would suggest that you display 
"please do not assume that paying me is some sort of acceleration to shipping. It is not." 
at the check-out for the Synthtech shopping cart.  This problem would have been avoided 
before it began.  The shopping cart instead offers the suggestion that items will be 
shipped by Priority Mail delivered in two to three days.  Of course I knew that was crap as 
well, which is why i asked you (before my last order) specifically  how long I would have to 
wait if i ordered a couple of MOTM300 front panels and a couple of MOTM300 pcbs.  Your 
reply was that those ship every 10 days.  That was a month ago.  I was looking for an 
honest answer to base my decision on whether to buy from you again, since i knew it was 
risky.   I suppose I should have known better.

In my last email, I said I would like the items I have paid for, and waited far too long for, 
and if they can be delivered in two weeks fine, otherwise I would like my money back.
I got a terse reply of "I'll look into it".   That does not cut it with me.  Yes I want my money 
back.  That's $209 for the MOTM101 and $170.75 for the two MOTM300 panels and two 
MOTM300 pcbs, order #1109.
Kevin Morde

Re: [motm] Response to Paul's INDIGNATION

2008-10-01 by John Mahoney

Sorry to hear about your dissatisfaction. I've had to wait for deliveries, but never that long (not even close), and I count myself as a happy SynthTech customer. I think I'm in the majority.

I'm not saying that you don't have a legitimate gripe, only that you seem to be a rare exception. Sounds like a "fell through the cracks" situation or a communication breakdown.

Paul's probably given you a refund, by now.

John

Re: Response to Paul's INDIGNATION

2008-10-01 by Girts R

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "dragonflys_eye" <dragonfly01@...> wrote:
>

> company.  I am seeking the thoughts of others on this list regarding who else is getting 
> screwed, how badly, and what they feel is the appropriate way to deal with it.
> 

Yes, I have waited two years too, have been nervous too, but in the end I got my MOTM.
I think Paul would like just to design new modules and not mess around with market. 
Fortunately, he is trying to make MOTM modules available for everyone.

Girts

Re: [motm] Response to Paul's INDIGNATION

2008-10-01 by Jan-Ahrent Czmok

On 01.10.2008, at 20:14, dragonflys_eye wrote:

> Man do you have some nerve!  You actually appear to be angry at me  
> for sharing the fact
> that I (as well as others ) are being victimized by you and your  
> company.  You have my
> money in your pocket, and you have not shipped the products that I  
> paid for.

guys,

please remember, he is not running a full-time business; he as well is  
doing this in his spare time
and in parallel to his job. he is not yamaha who has a 1000+ stock.

this thing in mind, i can wait some time for my stuff ...

just my .2 cents

--jan