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[motm] FS: Homemade Wood Case/Frame - (Gotham Cable Audio is SOLD)

[motm] FS: Homemade Wood Case/Frame - (Gotham Cable Audio is SOLD)

2008-09-18 by Kenneth Elhardt

SMS-2000 Synth expansion box wood frame. If you build DIY electronics
projects and want something a bit nicer than an ugly, unfinished looking
plastic or aluminum box to put knobs/buttons on and electronics inside, then
pictured below is a nice wooden frame. It fits a 10.5" by 7.75" piece of
metal or whatever material your panel will be. See pictures below. Note
that my router took a small chip out of the upper left corner as barely seen
in the bottom image in the first picture below. Only held together by wood
screws, so it can be taken apart and a refinished or laquered up for a
glossy shine if one desires. $20 plus $7 postage for the lower 48 states,
Paypal.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p122/Elhardt/Ebay/FrameSmall.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/92556096@N00/277050186/

-Elhardt

RE: [motm] FS: Homemade Wood Case/Frame - (Gotham Cable Audio is SOLD)

2008-09-18 by John L Rice

Wow! Looks really nice, great job!

John L Rice

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Kenneth Elhardt
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:32 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] FS: Homemade Wood Case/Frame - (Gotham Cable Audio is SOLD)

SMS-2000 Synth expansion box wood frame. If you build DIY electronics
projects and want something a bit nicer than an ugly, unfinished looking
plastic or aluminum box to put knobs/buttons on and electronics inside, then
pictured below is a nice wooden frame. It fits a 10.5" by 7.75" piece of
metal or whatever material your panel will be. See pictures below. Note
that my router took a small chip out of the upper left corner as barely seen
in the bottom image in the first picture below. Only held together by wood
screws, so it can be taken apart and a refinished or laquered up for a
glossy shine if one desires. $20 plus $7 postage for the lower 48 states,
Paypal.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p122/Elhardt/Ebay/FrameSmall.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/92556096@N00/277050186/

-Elhardt


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Re: [motm] Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-19 by Jeff Laity

No mounting rails? That's kinda cheezy. You could always order your
own from Bridechamber, but you shouldn't have to.


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On Sep 18, 2008, at 9:00 PM, David Moylan wrote:

> Has anyone seen these cases in person? I have a couple of their
> standard studio racks that I'm happy with but just noticed these on
> their website.
>
> http://www.nice-racks.com/Products-Nice_Racks_MOTM_Cases.html
>
> Dave

Re: [motm] Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-19 by Jason Proctor

one mildly worrying detail is that they say MOTM modules are 8.5"
high, when in fact IIRC they are 8.75" high....



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>No mounting rails? That's kinda cheezy. You could always order your
>own from Bridechamber, but you shouldn't have to.

Re: [motm] Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-19 by Stephen Drake

Look again - on the individual case pages they say 8.75. Don't worry.

I just built the equivalent of their 24u case - but mine cost about 20$ for the wood. Didn't take long to build, either. Oh - I already had stooge rails and a power supply on hand - that would have been quite a few dollars more, but these don't come with them, do they?

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On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Jason Proctor <jason@...> wrote:

one mildly worrying detail is that they say MOTM modules are 8.5"
high, when in fact IIRC they are 8.75" high....



>No mounting rails? That's kinda cheezy. You could always order your
>own from Bridechamber, but you shouldn't have to.



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Re: [motm] Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-19 by chris walcott

i have not used the MOTM specific cases but i did order 2 10 space
boxes that i use for my rig. here's a pic:
http://cedub.com/homepage/images/synth.jpg

i also bought 2 of the standard slant racks for my outboard gear but i
don't have a good picture of those handy. i'm a big fan of this guy.
quality construction and the price is right. he'll also do whatever
custom work you want. i had him add mounting rails on the back for my
power supplies.

- chris

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Stephen Drake
<makeme1witheverything@...> wrote:
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> Look again - on the individual case pages they say 8.75. Don't worry.
>
> I just built the equivalent of their 24u case - but mine cost about 20$ for
> the wood. Didn't take long to build, either. Oh - I already had stooge rails
> and a power supply on hand - that would have been quite a few dollars more,
> but these don't come with them, do they?
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Jason Proctor <jason@...> wrote:
>>
>> one mildly worrying detail is that they say MOTM modules are 8.5"
>> high, when in fact IIRC they are 8.75" high....
>>
>> >No mounting rails? That's kinda cheezy. You could always order your
>> >own from Bridechamber, but you shouldn't have to.
>>
>>
>
>
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> Stephen Drake
> sduck409@...
> makeme1witheverything@...
>

Re: [motm] Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-22 by Kenneth Elhardt

David writes:
>>Has anyone seen these cases in person? I have a couple of their
standard studio racks that I'm happy with but just noticed these on
their website.<<

$260 for a wooden box where the top and bottom don't even look
professionally joined to the sides? When I made myself a couple of cases, I
thought maybe I should start a small side business making synth cases, but
figured it was too much work for probably too little profit. But after
seeing that, I'm beginning to wonder. If I eliminated the pain-in-the-ass
angled portion, I could greatly simplify my case design. Nice tolex
covered, metal corner protectors, and heavy-duty carrying handle on mine so
it can be easily moved around:

http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/elhardt_motmcase.jpg

-Elhardt

Re: Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-23 by Koos Fockens

That looks like a nice case shape though. What are the 'white' strips between the modules?
I like that visually, and I guess it comes in quite handy when you're patching in poor light
conditions, and trying to find the right module.. :-)


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--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Kenneth Elhardt" <elhardt@...> wrote:
>
> David writes:
> >>Has anyone seen these cases in person? I have a couple of their
> standard studio racks that I'm happy with but just noticed these on
> their website.<<
>
> $260 for a wooden box where the top and bottom don't even look
> professionally joined to the sides? When I made myself a couple of cases, I
> thought maybe I should start a small side business making synth cases, but
> figured it was too much work for probably too little profit. But after
> seeing that, I'm beginning to wonder. If I eliminated the pain-in-the-ass
> angled portion, I could greatly simplify my case design. Nice tolex
> covered, metal corner protectors, and heavy-duty carrying handle on mine so
> it can be easily moved around:
>
> http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/elhardt_motmcase.jpg
>
> -Elhardt
>

Re: [motm] Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-23 by kheck73@aol.com

Looks nice. Can you point to a good tutorial, or do you have any advice on how to cover with Tolex? I assume it's cut and glue, but what's a good technique to avoid seams and wrinkles, make the corners and angles, etc. On commercially made gear it's usually very tightly bonded to the wood. I've never worked with it before, but would like to try. Thanks. Karl.
In a message dated 9/22/2008 3:41:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, elhardt@... writes:
Nice tolex
covered, metal corner protectors, and heavy-duty carrying handle on mine so
it can be easily moved around:

http://www.hotrodmo tm.com/images/ elhardt_motmcase .jpg

-Elhardt



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Re: [motm] Re: Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-24 by Kenneth Elhardt

Koos Fockens writes:
>>What are the 'white' strips between the modules? I like that visually,
and I guess it comes in quite handy when you're patching in poor light
conditions, and trying to find the right module.<<

That's I think 3/32" tape that I bought in the remote control airplane
section of a hobby shop. I sticks well. I'm glad I bought the last two of
that color and size, because all these years later they've never restocked
it. It helps a lot for the MOTM. Synths like the Moog modular already had
delineation lines.

KHeck73 writes:
>>Looks nice. Can you point to a good tutorial, or do you have any advice on
how to cover with Tolex? I assume it's cut and glue, but what's a good
technique to avoid seams and wrinkles, make the corners and angles, etc.<<

I had to learn from others too. I was told to use spray-on rubber cement to
attach the Tolex, so that's what I used. I learned through experience that
it really needs to be applied to both the Tolex and the wood, otherwise even
though it may seem secure at first, it will usually start peeling off along
the edges and air bubbles will start forming underneath in different places.
If air bubbles do form a few days after applying the Tolex, I use a pin to
poke small invisible holes to let the air out and push that spot down again.
My case only uses two separate pieces of Tolex. One piece covers the top
and both sides, including curving around the bottom about an inch. Just
start at one end and slowly and firmly pull the Tolex and apply it as you
go. The other piece is for the rest of the bottom. I had to do that
because of my odd case shape, but that's also how I'd do a regular rectangle
case too, as the two seams while visible if you look at the bottom of the
case, will be invisible in normal use, because the metal corner pieces will
hide them. I can't remember exactly how I cut the corners (probably cut a
triangle shape out), but that part will always look a bit sloppy. It
doesn't matter though, because the metal corner protectors cover all that up
so it's not seen.

-Elhardt

Funny what can be found on the internet. A 1974 picture of my father (he's
the one wearing his homemade pickelhaube) which because of him, brewing beer
at home has been legal in the US for about the past 30 years. Click on
photo for larger image: http://www.maltosefalcons.com/about/

Re: Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-24 by wjhall11

Hi Kenneth - very nice work.

Kenneth, All - can you recommend an online source for
supplies/hardware for building these equipment cases? Like the corner
hardware and the recessed handles, etc.?

Thanks, Bill and Will



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--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Kenneth Elhardt" <elhardt@...> wrote:
>
> Koos Fockens writes:
> >>What are the 'white' strips between the modules? I like that
visually,
> and I guess it comes in quite handy when you're patching in poor light
> conditions, and trying to find the right module.<<
>
> That's I think 3/32" tape that I bought in the remote control airplane
> section of a hobby shop. I sticks well. I'm glad I bought the last
two of
> that color and size, because all these years later they've never
restocked
> it. It helps a lot for the MOTM. Synths like the Moog modular
already had
> delineation lines.
>
> KHeck73 writes:
> >>Looks nice. Can you point to a good tutorial, or do you have any
advice on
> how to cover with Tolex? I assume it's cut and glue, but what's a good
> technique to avoid seams and wrinkles, make the corners and angles,
etc.<<
>
> I had to learn from others too. I was told to use spray-on rubber
cement to
> attach the Tolex, so that's what I used. I learned through
experience that
> it really needs to be applied to both the Tolex and the wood,
otherwise even
> though it may seem secure at first, it will usually start peeling
off along
> the edges and air bubbles will start forming underneath in different
places.
> If air bubbles do form a few days after applying the Tolex, I use a
pin to
> poke small invisible holes to let the air out and push that spot
down again.
> My case only uses two separate pieces of Tolex. One piece covers
the top
> and both sides, including curving around the bottom about an inch. Just
> start at one end and slowly and firmly pull the Tolex and apply it
as you
> go. The other piece is for the rest of the bottom. I had to do that
> because of my odd case shape, but that's also how I'd do a regular
rectangle
> case too, as the two seams while visible if you look at the bottom
of the
> case, will be invisible in normal use, because the metal corner
pieces will
> hide them. I can't remember exactly how I cut the corners (probably
cut a
> triangle shape out), but that part will always look a bit sloppy. It
> doesn't matter though, because the metal corner protectors cover all
that up
> so it's not seen.
>
> -Elhardt
>
> Funny what can be found on the internet. A 1974 picture of my
father (he's
> the one wearing his homemade pickelhaube) which because of him,
brewing beer
> at home has been legal in the US for about the past 30 years. Click on
> photo for larger image: http://www.maltosefalcons.com/about/
>

Re: [motm] Re: Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-24 by Kenneth Elhardt

Will and Bill,

>>Kenneth, All - can you recommend an online source for supplies/hardware
for building these equipment cases? Like the corner hardware and the
recessed handles, etc.?<<

I bought my case parts and vinyl (Tolex-like covering) from Penn Fabrication
years ago (http://www.penn-elcom.com/). They had a $50 minimum order at
that time, but their prices were cheap compared to the prices Mars Music was
selling Penn Fabrication parts for.

-Elhardt

Re: [motm] Re: Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-24 by Ti_

Antique Electronic Supply is a good source with all kinds of bits and pieces. I used to love browsing through the catalogs dreaming up all kinds of projects but forgot to let 'em know my new address when I last moved and almost forgot about them till this thread came up! Thanks yall!
~Ti_

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--- On Wed, 9/24/08, wjhall11 <wjhall@...> wrote:
From: wjhall11 <wjhall@...>
Subject: [motm] Re: Nice Racks MOTM cases
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 12:09 AM

Hi Kenneth - very nice work.

Kenneth, All - can you recommend an online source for
supplies/hardware for building these equipment cases? Like the corner
hardware and the recessed handles, etc.?

Thanks, Bill and Will

--- In motm@yahoogroups. com, "Kenneth Elhardt" <elhardt@... > wrote:
>
> Koos Fockens writes:
> >>What are the 'white' strips between the modules? I like that
visually,
> and I guess it comes in quite handy when you're patching in poor light
> conditions, and trying to find the right module.<<
>
> That's I think 3/32" tape that I bought in the remote control airplane
> section of a hobby shop. I sticks well. I'm glad I bought the last
two of
> that color and size, because all these years later they've never
restocked
> it. It helps a lot for the MOTM. Synths like the Moog modular
already had
> delineation lines.
>
> KHeck73 writes:
> >>Looks nice. Can you point to a good tutorial, or do you have any
advice on
> how to cover with Tolex? I assume it's cut and glue, but what's a good
> technique to avoid seams and wrinkles, make the corners and angles,
etc.<<
>
> I had to learn from others too. I was told to use spray-on rubber
cement to
> attach the Tolex, so that's what I used. I learned through
experience that
> it really needs to be applied to both the Tolex and the wood,
otherwise even
> though it may seem secure at first, it will usually start peeling
off along
> the edges and air bubbles will start forming underneath in different
places.
> If air bubbles do form a few days after applying the Tolex, I use a
pin to
> poke small invisible holes to let the air out and push that spot
down again.
> My case only uses two separate pieces of Tolex. One piece covers
the top
> and both sides, including curving around the bottom about an inch. Just
> start at one end and slowly and firmly pull the Tolex and apply it
as you
> go. The other piece is for the rest of the bottom. I had to do that
> because of my odd case shape, but that's also how I'd do a regular
rectangle
> case too, as the two seams while visible if you look at the bottom
of the
> case, will be invisible in normal use, because the metal corner
pieces will
> hide them. I can't remember exactly how I cut the corners (probably
cut a
> triangle shape out), but that part will always look a bit sloppy. It
> doesn't matter though, because the metal corner protectors cover all
that up
> so it's not seen.
>
> -Elhardt
>
> Funny what can be found on the internet. A 1974 picture of my
father (he's
> the one wearing his homemade pickelhaube) which because of him,
brewing beer
> at home has been legal in the US for about the past 30 years. Click on
> photo for larger image: http://www.maltosef alcons.com/ about/
>

Re: [motm] Re: Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-09-24 by Ti_

They've even got Snakeskin Tolex!!! That would definitely make a statement!!
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Antique Electronic Supply is a good source with all kinds of bits and pieces. I used to love browsing through the catalogs dreaming up all kinds of projects but forgot to let 'em know my new address when I last moved and almost forgot about them till this thread came up! Thanks yall!
~Ti_

Re: [motm] Nice Racks MOTM cases

2008-10-02 by David Moylan

I went ahead and ordered a cabinet from nice-racks. Instead of the wood
rails I had him mount standard rack rails which is the same method I
used on the cabinet I built myself. I'd rather be screwing into metal
than wood. I also got rear rails so I can mount the PSU on the back.
Only issues are

1. You can't use the standard MOTM screw since it's 8-32 and rack is 10-32.

2. With the way the rails are bent there's about 1/8 inch gap at the top
and bottom of the module where you see the rails, but the rails are
black as well so I don't think it's very noticeable.

All in all same quality as any of their other racks. There was no
charge for the modifications, but this was kind of a prototype so not
sure if that will always be the case. I know some listers balked at the
price, but if time = money, it's certainly worth it to me.

Dave