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Hi guys - Stupid question -  where can Will and I get 1M reverse log
panel mount pots for the YUsaw Animator we're building?  I'm having
trouble finding them.  Thanks.  Bill

Hi,

I did some quick searches and found a couple sites you might find
interesting FWIW.

Start reading about halfway down this page http://www.geofex.com/ in the
"Which leads us to tapering" section (seems to show how to emulate a reverse
log pot with a normal one . . I think . . I haven't tried it):

Check out Omeg http://www.omeg.co.uk/products.htm#pots  I read that "Omeg
make reverse log pots, but only up to 470K" but that was posted 8 years ago
and on Omeg's site you can select 1M pots with 'Law C' (reverse log) so
maybe they have them now? (I've never purchased from Omeg)

Best of luck.
John L Rice

-----Original Message-----
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To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Potentiometer Advice - -

Hi guys - Stupid question -  where can Will and I get 1M reverse log
panel mount pots for the YUsaw Animator we're building?  I'm having
trouble finding them.  Thanks.  Bill


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Hey - thanks much.  I stumbled ontpthem at digikey!  Somehow some
combination of search terms panned out.  yeesh!  But they are pricey!
 Thanks again.  Bill


--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "John L Rice" <Drummer@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I did some quick searches and found a couple sites you might find
> interesting FWIW.
> 
> Start reading about halfway down this page http://www.geofex.com/ in the
> "Which leads us to tapering" section (seems to show how to emulate a
reverse
> log pot with a normal one . . I think . . I haven't tried it):
> 
> Check out Omeg http://www.omeg.co.uk/products.htm#pots  I read that
"Omeg
> make reverse log pots, but only up to 470K" but that was posted 8
years ago

> and on Omeg's site you can select 1M pots with 'Law C' (reverse log) so
> maybe they have them now? (I've never purchased from Omeg)
> 
> Best of luck.
> John L Rice
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> wjhall11
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 1:06 AM
> To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [motm] Potentiometer Advice - -
> 
> Hi guys - Stupid question -  where can Will and I get 1M reverse log
> panel mount pots for the YUsaw Animator we're building?  I'm having
> trouble finding them.  Thanks.  Bill
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

On 2008-09-02 10:25 -0000, wjhall11 wrote:

> Hey - thanks much.  I stumbled ontpthem at digikey!  Somehow
> some combination of search terms panned out.  yeesh!  But they
> are pricey!

KB1051S28-ND and KKB1051S28-ND ? Whoa ! 11 USD for the single, 33
USD for the dual. Methinks a group buy at Alpha is in order. :-)

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On Sep 2, 2008, at 7:19 AM, Andre Majorel wrote:

> On 2008-09-02 10:25 -0000, wjhall11 wrote:
>
>  > Hey - thanks much. I stumbled ontpthem at digikey! Somehow
>  > some combination of search terms panned out. yeesh! But they
>  > are pricey!
>
>  KB1051S28-ND and KKB1051S28-ND ? Whoa ! 11 USD for the single, 33
>  USD for the dual. Methinks a group buy at Alpha is in order. :-)
>
>  --
>  André Majorel <URL:http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/>
>  Do not use this account for regular correspondence.
>  See the URL above for contact information.
>  
>

I need more coffee; sorry for the empty post!
: )

I was thinking of doing a "cheat" -- adding a resistor of approx. 1/6 
value in parallel between the CW and middle lugs of a linear pot to 
simulate a reverse log pot.
As per:
http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/potsecrets/potscret.htm

Any big engineer brains care to chime in on that?


Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
http://www.bridechamber.com
Jealous Edison Record Kompany
http://www.jealousedison.com

On Sep 2, 2008, at 7:19 AM, Andre Majorel wrote:

> On 2008-09-02 10:25 -0000, wjhall11 wrote:
>
>  > Hey - thanks much. I stumbled ontpthem at digikey! Somehow
>  > some combination of search terms panned out. yeesh! But they
>  > are pricey!
>
>  KB1051S28-ND and KKB1051S28-ND ? Whoa ! 11 USD for the single, 33
>  USD for the dual. Methinks a group buy at Alpha is in order. :-)
>
>  --
>  André Majorel <URL:http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/>
>  Do not use this account for regular correspondence.
>  See the URL above for contact information.
>  
>

Paul writes:
>>Looking at the Spectrol prices now, Mouser is asking over *$7 each* for
the 148/149 pots! They used to be $3 each.<<

Andre Majoral writes:
>>KB1051S28-ND and KKB1051S28-ND ? Whoa ! 11 USD for the single, 33 USD for
the dual. Methinks a group buy at Alpha is in order.<<

Seems like all I hear is how parts have doubled, trippled, quadruppled in
price.  Do these companies ever give any justification for their insane
price increases?  Do people ever make their anger known to those companies?
Seems like they're screwing people over and getting away with it.

-Elhardt

> Seems like all I hear is how parts have doubled, trippled, quadruppled in
> price.  Do these companies ever give any justification for their insane
> price increases?  Do people ever make their anger known to those companies?
> Seems like they're screwing people over and getting away with it.

Companies increase their prices because they can, and people will still 
buy them. They don't have to justify it. I don't like it either, but it's 
not like consumers have a right to what they perceive is a "fair" price on 
pots, or anything else for that matter.

-->Neil

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C. Neil Bradley - KE7IXP - The one eyed man in the land of the blind is not
                            king. He's a prisoner.

Because no one builds analog audio components anymore? The audio  
industry is puny, so when the medical, military, etc. industries stop  
buying these parts, they get expensive to do. I'm sure Paul's orders  
are several orders of magnitude away from being interesting to any of  
these parts suppliers. (Except for maybe the british flag display guy.)


On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Kenneth Elhardt wrote:

> Paul writes:
> >>Looking at the Spectrol prices now, Mouser is asking over *$7  
> each* for
> the 148/149 pots! They used to be $3 each.<<
>
> Andre Majoral writes:
> >>KB1051S28-ND and KKB1051S28-ND ? Whoa ! 11 USD for the single, 33  
> USD for
> the dual. Methinks a group buy at Alpha is in order.<<
>
> Seems like all I hear is how parts have doubled, trippled,  
> quadruppled in
> price. Do these companies ever give any justification for their insane
> price increases? Do people ever make their anger known to those  
> companies?
> Seems like they're screwing people over and getting away with it.
>
> -Elhardt
>


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Yeah - all this stands to reason.

As for Will and me - well - some time ago we resigned ourselves to
spending real buckaroos (let alone our sweat equity, so to speak) on
this instrument and it's component parts.

So I look at it this way - in part to make myself feel better - great
pianos of certain pedigree can easily be worth over $75,000; guitars
over $25,000.  I wonder how much that breaks down to by key and
hammer, string, harp, case (midi interface, envelope generator,
oscillator, rack with powersupply, case) <LOL>.

These MOTM things are no-holds barred rather like all great
instruments.  And I'm hesitant to populate the modules with anything
that's not going to hold up over time or compromise the designer's
intent.  And so I shrug, tighten my belt, and shell out the Dead
Presidents.

Ouch!  Bill 


--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Laity <synthetic@...> wrote:
>
> Because no one builds analog audio components anymore? The audio  
> industry is puny, so when the medical, military, etc. industries stop  
> buying these parts, they get expensive to do. I'm sure Paul's orders  
> are several orders of magnitude away from being interesting to any of  
> these parts suppliers. (Except for maybe the british flag display guy.)
> 
> 
> On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Kenneth Elhardt wrote:
> 
> > Paul writes:
> > >>Looking at the Spectrol prices now, Mouser is asking over *$7  
> > each* for
> > the 148/149 pots! They used to be $3 each.<<
> >
> > Andre Majoral writes:
> > >>KB1051S28-ND and KKB1051S28-ND ? Whoa ! 11 USD for the single, 33  
> > USD for
> > the dual. Methinks a group buy at Alpha is in order.<<
> >
> > Seems like all I hear is how parts have doubled, trippled,  
> > quadruppled in
> > price. Do these companies ever give any justification for their insane
> > price increases? Do people ever make their anger known to those  
> > companies?
> > Seems like they're screwing people over and getting away with it.
> >
> > -Elhardt
> >
> 
> 
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> 
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Neil Bradley writes:
>>Companies increase their prices because they can, and people will still
buy them. They don't have to justify it. I don't like it either, but it's
not like consumers have a right to what they perceive is a "fair" price on
pots, or anything else for that matter.<<

Sure they can, but it seems like they can't place themselves in the minds of
people buying the parts.  If somebody goes to reorder parts, only to find
their price has doubled, people know they're getting screwed.  That doesn't
seem good for business.  That leads people to look and buy elsewhere and
leads the company to gain a reputation for screwing people.  Those generally
aren't good longterm policies.  It also causes other companies to step in
and make cheaper knockoffs, like Paul mentioned about Switchcraft jacks.

-Elhardt

Since there might be some Scandinavians here...
You are all invited to the second Norwegian Synth Gathering in Oslo on 
October 4th.
Info here:
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