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MOTM-800 redesign >> MOTM-810

MOTM-800 redesign >> MOTM-810

2008-09-02 by Paul Schreiber

After I ship the 18 or so MOTM-800 kits on order, and the 12 assembled ones, 
I will be out of 1M log pots. The problem is (and always has been), that 
these are never a stock item and so I have to order them as a custom. Which 
is 16-18 WEEKS delivery and a 600pc minimum order. Sometimes they will 
accept a 400pc order, but the last time I bought these was in Nov of 2005 
and they made me take 600.

So, if after tomorrow calling and begging, if I can't get them to sell me 
like 150 (which will last me at least 1 year) I am going to retire the 
current design and switch over to an SMT version of the MOTM-1800 Frac EG 
which *internally* has both CV control of all parameters and the 
looping/burst stuff.

In order to be "form, fit and function" with the existing MOTM-800, these 
fancy features will not be implemented. From the "outside" the function will 
be exactly like the existing MOTM-800.

I can add all the fancy stuff, but that would go to a 2U wide module 
(MOTM-810) to add the 2 extra jacks and the 4 extra pots (plus switch, 
pushbutton and [gasp] LED).

You would figure a 1M log pot is not that 'rare' in the real world, but 
distribution mostly stock is linear 1K, 5K, 10K and 50K. Even 100K linear 
can be an issue to locate.

I will keep you posted on the Great Bourns Pot Hunt of 2008. The 100K linear 
pots for all the other modules is not an issue, I have over 400 of those 
sitting here :)

Paul S.
reason #488 why stuff takes so long to ship

Re: [motm] MOTM-800 redesign >> MOTM-810

2008-09-02 by thomas white

This would be awesome! 

I have been waiting for this and really look forward
to the 810 2U version. You can make some amazing slow
forming sequences with a VC-ADSR and a MOTM-380 quad
LFO. I was playing around with this earlier today with
my *cough* Oakley VC-ADSR. Nice module but the
exchange rate for the PCB's killed me. 

Paul, even if the pots are in stock can we expect this
to happen sometime anyway?

Thomas

--- Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:

> After I ship the 18 or so MOTM-800 kits on order,
> and the 12 assembled ones, 
> I will be out of 1M log pots. The problem is (and
> always has been), that 
> these are never a stock item and so I have to order
> them as a custom. Which 
> is 16-18 WEEKS delivery and a 600pc minimum order.
> Sometimes they will 
> accept a 400pc order, but the last time I bought
> these was in Nov of 2005 
> and they made me take 600.
> 
> So, if after tomorrow calling and begging, if I
> can't get them to sell me 
> like 150 (which will last me at least 1 year) I am
> going to retire the 
> current design and switch over to an SMT version of
> the MOTM-1800 Frac EG 
> which *internally* has both CV control of all
> parameters and the 
> looping/burst stuff.
> 
> In order to be "form, fit and function" with the
> existing MOTM-800, these 
> fancy features will not be implemented. From the
> "outside" the function will 
> be exactly like the existing MOTM-800.
> 
> I can add all the fancy stuff, but that would go to
> a 2U wide module 
> (MOTM-810) to add the 2 extra jacks and the 4 extra
> pots (plus switch, 
> pushbutton and [gasp] LED).
> 
> You would figure a 1M log pot is not that 'rare' in
> the real world, but 
> distribution mostly stock is linear 1K, 5K, 10K and
> 50K. Even 100K linear 
> can be an issue to locate.
> 
> I will keep you posted on the Great Bourns Pot Hunt
> of 2008. The 100K linear 
> pots for all the other modules is not an issue, I
> have over 400 of those 
> sitting here :)
> 
> Paul S.
> reason #488 why stuff takes so long to ship
> 
> 


Thomas White
  Natural Rhythm
www.naturalrhythmmusic.com

Re: MOTM-800 redesign >> MOTM-810

2008-09-02 by wjhall11

Will and I will want one.  Bill



--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, thomas white <djthomaswhite@...> wrote:
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>
> This would be awesome! 
> 
> I have been waiting for this and really look forward
> to the 810 2U version. You can make some amazing slow
> forming sequences with a VC-ADSR and a MOTM-380 quad
> LFO. I was playing around with this earlier today with
> my *cough* Oakley VC-ADSR. Nice module but the
> exchange rate for the PCB's killed me. 
> 
> Paul, even if the pots are in stock can we expect this
> to happen sometime anyway?
> 
> Thomas
> 
> --- Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
> 
> > After I ship the 18 or so MOTM-800 kits on order,
> > and the 12 assembled ones, 
> > I will be out of 1M log pots. The problem is (and
> > always has been), that 
> > these are never a stock item and so I have to order
> > them as a custom. Which 
> > is 16-18 WEEKS delivery and a 600pc minimum order.
> > Sometimes they will 
> > accept a 400pc order, but the last time I bought
> > these was in Nov of 2005 
> > and they made me take 600.
> > 
> > So, if after tomorrow calling and begging, if I
> > can't get them to sell me 
> > like 150 (which will last me at least 1 year) I am
> > going to retire the 
> > current design and switch over to an SMT version of
> > the MOTM-1800 Frac EG 
> > which *internally* has both CV control of all
> > parameters and the 
> > looping/burst stuff.
> > 
> > In order to be "form, fit and function" with the
> > existing MOTM-800, these 
> > fancy features will not be implemented. From the
> > "outside" the function will 
> > be exactly like the existing MOTM-800.
> > 
> > I can add all the fancy stuff, but that would go to
> > a 2U wide module 
> > (MOTM-810) to add the 2 extra jacks and the 4 extra
> > pots (plus switch, 
> > pushbutton and [gasp] LED).
> > 
> > You would figure a 1M log pot is not that 'rare' in
> > the real world, but 
> > distribution mostly stock is linear 1K, 5K, 10K and
> > 50K. Even 100K linear 
> > can be an issue to locate.
> > 
> > I will keep you posted on the Great Bourns Pot Hunt
> > of 2008. The 100K linear 
> > pots for all the other modules is not an issue, I
> > have over 400 of those 
> > sitting here :)
> > 
> > Paul S.
> > reason #488 why stuff takes so long to ship
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Thomas White
>   Natural Rhythm
> www.naturalrhythmmusic.com
>

Re: MOTM-800 redesign >> MOTM-810

2008-09-02 by Girts R

Is the previously planned MOTM-810 *VC* EG (JH design,2 CV inputs, Velocity CV, Burst/
Cycle mode, SMT) cancelled?

Girts


--- In motm@...m, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> After I ship the 18 or so MOTM-800 kits on order, and the 12 assembled ones, 
> I will be out of 1M log pots. The problem is (and always has been), that 
> these are never a stock item and so I have to order them as a custom. Which 
> is 16-18 WEEKS delivery and a 600pc minimum order. Sometimes they will 
> accept a 400pc order, but the last time I bought these was in Nov of 2005 
> and they made me take 600.
> 
> So, if after tomorrow calling and begging, if I can't get them to sell me 
> like 150 (which will last me at least 1 year) I am going to retire the 
> current design and switch over to an SMT version of the MOTM-1800 Frac EG 
> which *internally* has both CV control of all parameters and the 
> looping/burst stuff.
> 
> In order to be "form, fit and function" with the existing MOTM-800, these 
> fancy features will not be implemented. From the "outside" the function will 
> be exactly like the existing MOTM-800.
> 
> I can add all the fancy stuff, but that would go to a 2U wide module 
> (MOTM-810) to add the 2 extra jacks and the 4 extra pots (plus switch, 
> pushbutton and [gasp] LED).
> 
> You would figure a 1M log pot is not that 'rare' in the real world, but 
> distribution mostly stock is linear 1K, 5K, 10K and 50K. Even 100K linear 
> can be an issue to locate.
> 
> I will keep you posted on the Great Bourns Pot Hunt of 2008. The 100K linear 
> pots for all the other modules is not an issue, I have over 400 of those 
> sitting here :)
> 
> Paul S.
> reason #488 why stuff takes so long to ship
>

Re: [motm] Re:MOTM-800 redesign >> MOTM-810

2008-09-02 by thomas white

Ha ha ha! Not with 24-bit at 48khz. You'll never hear
the difference. ;~)

Thomas

--- Todd Fletcher <babysealclub@...> wrote:

> Do the SMT EG's sound as WARM as the through hole?


Thomas White
  Natural Rhythm
www.naturalrhythmmusic.com