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2008-07-23 by earthtodylan2000
Hello, My fiend is going to loan me his TB-303 for an extended time period. I was wondering if anyone had any tips about how to use it with an MOTM system. I do understand that I can use the CV out and CV gate to add additional voices/VCO's to mix with the 303. What I want to do is actually clock the 303 to a sequencer or vice versa. I'm new to this sort of synthesizing and not hip to DIN inserts. Thanks, Dave
2008-07-23 by Mark
I have a couple of TB-303's. It uses Roland Sync24, commonly known as DIN sync, which is 24ppqn. It has sync in, but not sync out, so it cannot be used as a master (unless you put the cable in half-way which is mechanically unreliable). So you need something that can generate both DIN sync and a sequencer clock. In my set-up that would either be a Kenton Pro-4 synced to MIDI F8, or a TR-808 with one of the trigger outputs programmed as a sequencer clock. There are a number of other devices that generate both DIN sync and clock pulses. If you don't care about being able to slave to MIDI, the least expensive option is probably a TR-707, which sells for around $100 (it has MIDI out but not MIDI in). On 7/23/08, earthtodylan2000 put forth:
>Hello, > > My fiend is going to loan me his TB-303 for an extended time >period. I was wondering if >anyone had any tips about how to use it with an MOTM system. > > I do understand that I can use the CV out and CV gate to add >additional voices/VCO's to mix >with the 303. > > What I want to do is actually clock the 303 to a sequencer or vice versa. > > I'm new to this sort of synthesizing and not hip to DIN inserts. > >Thanks, > >Dave
2008-07-23 by loopcycle
a mobius is an excellent timing/clock centerpiece. shame its discontinued. a funny thing has happened to the 707 just lately. in the last six months or so, the average going price has jumped to $250-300! --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Mark <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
> There > are a number of other devices that generate both DIN sync > and clock > pulses. If you don't care about being able to slave to > MIDI, the > least expensive option is probably a TR-707, which sells > for around > $100 (it has MIDI out but not MIDI in).
2008-07-23 by David Moylan
The 606 can act as a master and also put out pulses for the toms so you can use it to clock a sequencer. I haven't used the two simultaneously but it should work in theory. Dave Mark wrote:
> > > > I have a couple of TB-303's. It uses Roland Sync24, commonly known > as DIN sync, which is 24ppqn. It has sync in, but not sync out, so > it cannot be used as a master (unless you put the cable in half-way > which is mechanically unreliable). So you need something that can > generate both DIN sync and a sequencer clock. In my set-up that > would either be a Kenton Pro-4 synced to MIDI F8, or a TR-808 with > one of the trigger outputs programmed as a sequencer clock. There > are a number of other devices that generate both DIN sync and clock > pulses. If you don't care about being able to slave to MIDI, the > least expensive option is probably a TR-707, which sells for around > $100 (it has MIDI out but not MIDI in). > > On 7/23/08, earthtodylan2000 put forth: > >Hello, > > > > My fiend is going to loan me his TB-303 for an extended time > >period. I was wondering if > >anyone had any tips about how to use it with an MOTM system. > > > > I do understand that I can use the CV out and CV gate to add > >additional voices/VCO's to mix > >with the 303. > > > > What I want to do is actually clock the 303 to a sequencer or vice versa. > > > > I'm new to this sort of synthesizing and not hip to DIN inserts. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Dave > >
2008-07-23 by earthtodylan2000
Yeah... I don't have a 606 707 808...I was just hoping there was something in the MOTM and friends system that would help with the 24 pulse per.1/4 note problem. Anything in the 650 that could help? Dave --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, David Moylan <dave@...> wrote:
> > The 606 can act as a master and also put out pulses for the toms so you > can use it to clock a sequencer. I haven't used the two simultaneously > but it should work in theory. > > Dave > > > Mark wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a couple of TB-303's. It uses Roland Sync24, commonly known > > as DIN sync, which is 24ppqn. It has sync in, but not sync out, so > > it cannot be used as a master (unless you put the cable in half-way > > which is mechanically unreliable). So you need something that can > > generate both DIN sync and a sequencer clock. In my set-up that > > would either be a Kenton Pro-4 synced to MIDI F8, or a TR-808 with > > one of the trigger outputs programmed as a sequencer clock. There > > are a number of other devices that generate both DIN sync and clock > > pulses. If you don't care about being able to slave to MIDI, the > > least expensive option is probably a TR-707, which sells for around > > $100 (it has MIDI out but not MIDI in). > > > > On 7/23/08, earthtodylan2000 put forth: > > >Hello, > > > > > > My fiend is going to loan me his TB-303 for an extended time > > >period. I was wondering if > > >anyone had any tips about how to use it with an MOTM system. > > > > > > I do understand that I can use the CV out and CV gate to add > > >additional voices/VCO's to mix > > >with the 303. > > > > > > What I want to do is actually clock the 303 to a sequencer or vice versa. > > > > > > I'm new to this sort of synthesizing and not hip to DIN inserts. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Dave > > > > >
2008-07-23 by Mark
On 7/23/08, loopcycle put forth: >a mobius is an excellent timing/clock centerpiece. shame its discontinued. > >a funny thing has happened to the 707 just lately. in the last six >months or so, the average going price has jumped to $250-300! Really?? I wonder if that has to do with the increased availably of percussion modules, and the decline of hardware samplers. A hardware sampler with individual outs can be used to trigger analogue drum synths, and is velocity sensitive, just like a TR-707. Also, as a 707 is all digital, its function as a sound module could be replaced with a hardware sampler. Nowadays, no one makes hardware samplers (except Akai MPC units) and the ones that were made are no longer supported via software. On 7/23/08, David Moylan put forth: >The 606 can act as a master and also put out pulses for the toms so you >can use it to clock a sequencer. I haven't used the two simultaneously >but it should work in theory. It also works in reality. The issue with TR-606's is that people keep buy them to hack them apart thinking they can somehow mod the poor little things into an 808. http://www.prepal.com/data/Roland.htm
2008-07-24 by Suit & Tie Guy
On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:47 PM, loopcycle wrote: > a funny thing has happened to the 707 just lately. in the last six > months or so, the average going price has jumped to $250-300! you can thank circuit bending for that i believe. i saw a circuit-bent Kurzweil K2000 on ebay a few weeks ago. i wonder how long it will take for those to hit 2 grand again. --- Suit & Tie Guy suitandtieguy.com stgsoundlabs.com
2008-07-24 by Koos Fockens
To me the K2000 is worth the 2 grand, still :-) hence my signature on my blog as K2K Koos , I love the K2000 (and it's successors), and I'm responsible for others purchasing one too due to my continious nagging and praising the K2000. In my eyes a worthy digital counterpart to all things analog, and still one of the most powerful digital synthesis systems on the planet. :-) --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Suit & Tie Guy <erwill@...> wrote:
> > On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:47 PM, loopcycle wrote: > > a funny thing has happened to the 707 just lately. in the last six > > months or so, the average going price has jumped to $250-300! > > you can thank circuit bending for that i believe. > > i saw a circuit-bent Kurzweil K2000 on ebay a few weeks ago. i wonder > how long it will take for those to hit 2 grand again. > --- > Suit & Tie Guy > suitandtieguy.com > stgsoundlabs.com >