MOTM

Hopefully Jeffrey will step in and give us an update. I have not heard from 
him in a while.

Meanwhile: the majority of the issues are using external clock to drive the 
arpeggiators and using Voice Group 1/1/1/1 (4 independent MIDI channels). 
The Voice Group
bug seems to be if you change from/into 1/1/1/1 mode. I think if you *start* 
there (the default patch) you are OK.

I have not heard of any other bugs/crashes except in these 2 cases. If 
anyone has other bug to report, please do so.

Paul S.

On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:56 , James Elliott wrote:

> General Problem: My 650 quits responding to midi when I send midi  
> cc's to control aux1. When I say quit responding I mean that the  
> output jacks do not transmit a signal - the midi LED still responds  
> to midi.

I've seen this too, recently.

- Robert

Perhaps this is why "The Pro 2000 is what we recommend for controlling  
a MOTM synthesizer."

http://www.synthtech.com/kenton.html

Shows up on the first page of Google search for Kenton Pro 2000. I  
suspect that's old information. But it's a great price!

On Aug 26, 2008, at 11:35 PM, James Elliott wrote:

>
> Paul, do you have any updates regarding the 650's bug fixes? I would  
> really like to be able to send CC's to all the AUX outs without the  
> 650 crashing on me.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

Also wondering here about the software update. I use
CC's a lot and need to be able to use them without
crashing my 650. Hoping and fingers crossed,

Thomas

--- Jeff Laity <synthetic@...> wrote:

> Perhaps this is why "The Pro 2000 is what we
> recommend for controlling  
> a MOTM synthesizer."
> 
> http://www.synthtech.com/kenton.html
> 
> Shows up on the first page of Google search for
> Kenton Pro 2000. I  
> suspect that's old information. But it's a great
> price!
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 26, 2008, at 11:35 PM, James Elliott wrote:
> 
> >
> > Paul, do you have any updates regarding the 650's
> bug fixes? I would  
> > really like to be able to send CC's to all the AUX
> outs without the  
> > 650 crashing on me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
> 
> 


Thomas White
  Natural Rhythm
www.naturalrhythmmusic.com

That page still there? It's from like 2002!

Paul S.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Jeff Laity" <synthetic@...>
To: "MOTM List" <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] 650 OS Update Status....


> Perhaps this is why "The Pro 2000 is what we recommend for controlling  
> a MOTM synthesizer."
> 
> http://www.synthtech.com/kenton.html
> 
> Shows up on the first page of Google search for Kenton Pro 2000. I  
> suspect that's old information. But it's a great price!
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 26, 2008, at 11:35 PM, James Elliott wrote:
> 
>>
>> Paul, do you have any updates regarding the 650's bug fixes? I would  
>> really like to be able to send CC's to all the AUX outs without the  
>> 650 crashing on me.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

At 11:35 PM 8/26/2008 -0700, James Elliott wrote:
>      Paul, do you have any updates regarding the 650's bug fixes? 

The good news is, working on the 650 is next on my task list.  The bad news
is, I'm having some health problems so it's hard for me to get anything
done right now.  I hope to work on it very soon, but I can't make any
promises.


>I would really like to be able to send CC's to all the AUX outs without
the 650
>crashing on me.

What version of the firmware are you running?

Jeffrey

Hi list.
 
I am trying to use a MIDI breath conroller to play my modular through the
650, and I have an issue with the aux signal. I have patched up the aux 1 to
CC7 (volume) and vhen I connect this to the CV port of my VCA the output is
very "noisy" - sounds like white noise and pops mixed in with the synth
sound. Looking at the signal from aux 1 in a scope shows the stair-shape of
the curve from DA-converting, but no spikes/other artifacts. When I connect
the VCA to an EG, everything sounds OK - but then of course I cannot control
volume with breath.
 
Using breath to open the filter works OK (not so sensitive to artifacts?)
 
Do I need to do some processing of the aux 1-signal in order to smooth it
out before applying it to the VCA?
 
Also, is there a revision of the 650 manual since version 0 [april 2006]?
 
Rgds
 
Richard

Years ago when I first hooked up a Midi breath controller to the MOTM, I had
a similar problem.  All the stepping came through into the sound.  I made a
point to be sure to let others know that you need to smooth it out with a
lag processor (as Paul S. pointed out).  You can see the 820 lag processor
in the upper right of on this patch sheet:

http://home.att.net/~elhardt4/MOTM_Flute_Patchsheet.JPG

-Elhardt

Speaking of patches: whatever happened to the patch books that were going to
be published? I got the first one but haven't heard anything more about
them.

-Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Kenneth Elhardt
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:30 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] 650 aux issue

Years ago when I first hooked up a Midi breath controller to the MOTM, I had
a similar problem.  All the stepping came through into the sound.  I made a
point to be sure to let others know that you need to smooth it out with a
lag processor (as Paul S. pointed out).  You can see the 820 lag processor
in the upper right of on this patch sheet:

http://home.att.net/~elhardt4/MOTM_Flute_Patchsheet.JPG

-Elhardt


------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

Greg James,
>>Speaking of patches: whatever happened to the patch books that were going
to be published? I got the first one but haven't heard anything more about
them.<<

Hello Greg,
There haven't been anymore as of yet.  There are a number of issues with
those.  After doing the first one I realized what a pain they are to do, not
that that would stop me.  Another, is trying to find patches and sounds that
are complex enough to warrant doing other patch books.  For instance, Paul
recommended I might cover brass instruments, and I actually started patching
up my Alesis Ion/MMV style brass patches on it, but I ran out of modules and
the touchy and imprecise nature of the FM on the attacks of notes is very
hard to do on the MOTM.  When I cut out some of the complexity I was left
with brass sounds that didn't justify doing a patch book because they were
too simple.  I figured I could do vocal sounds and show several ways to go
about getting great choir sounds, but then I have to start using a bunch of
other gear that most people don't have and that leads to complaints.
There's also the problem that these patch books are probably benefitting too
few people.  It seems like a lot of work to go through if only 15 people (or
whatever number) are the only receipiants.  But I'm still thinking about
what family of sounds might work for other patch books.

I also keep throwing around the idea in my mind that maybe I should just do
a DVD that covers in detail all kinds of stuff including new techniques and
sounds I've come up with that I've never mentioned or made demos of.  That
wouldn't be specific to the MOTM, but cover all the stuff I've done over the
years on many different synths.  But with synthesis being a dead art, I
never know how many would sell.  It would have to get onto Amazon.com like
Carlos' "Secrets of Synthesis" to maybe even justify doing, and still I'm
not sure.  I hate spending a lot of time on something that doesn't pay off.

So right now, things are kind of in limbo until I have more time to figure
out what to do.

-Elhardt