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cloud generator

2007-08-10 by John Mahoney

Given the power of the digital audio engine and the features of the 
Cloud Generator, it seems [to this casual observer] that it would be 
fairly simple to offer another mode of operation. And that is... 
drumroll, please... supersaw mode!

Supersaw mode merely entails giving each virtual oscillator a 
sawtooth output. You will *easily* sell one or 2 modules to trance 
music producers, if you add this. (I jest!) Seriously, for all the 
work going into this module, it seems to be fairly limited in 
features, unique though it is. And, by the way, there is no supersaw 
VCO module available.

I believe that the front panels have already been created, so here 
are some quick ideas for the user interface:
	A jumper on the back panel selects between pulse and sawtooth.
	A jumper on the back panel replaces the Wide mode with Supersaw 
mode. (Wide Supersaw detuning isn't needed.)
	A maximum voltage at the PWM input engages Supersaw mode.
	A negative voltage at the PWM (or some other) input engages Supersaw mode.
	Lastly, my favorite idea: Replace the Wide/narrow switch with a 
3-way switch; the middle setting would be "SS" mode.

Suit and Tie Guy actually suggested this idea in a conversation we 
had; he was surprised that there was NOT a supersaw mode, and I had to agree.

Any comments from the peanut gallery?
--
john

P.S. Is Supersaw is a Roland trademark?


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Re: [motm] cloud generator

2007-08-11 by Paul Schreiber

> Given the power of the digital audio engine and the features of the 
> Cloud Generator, it seems [to this casual observer] that it would be 
> fairly simple to offer another mode of operation. And that is... 
> drumroll, please... supersaw mode!
> 

(cough) MOTM-521 Cloud Expansion Module (cough)

Paul S.

Re: [motm] cloud generator

2007-08-11 by John Mahoney

At 09:54 PM 8/10/2007, Paul Schreiber wrote:

>>Given the power of the digital audio engine and the features of the 
>>Cloud Generator, it seems [to this casual observer] that it would 
>>be fairly simple to offer another mode of operation. And that is... 
>>drumroll, please... supersaw mode!
>
>(cough) MOTM-521 Cloud Expansion Module (cough)
>
>Paul S.

Let's see, an expansion module versus a 3-way toggle switch... yeah, 
that's a real toss-up.
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john


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Re: [motm] cloud generator

2007-08-11 by Paul Schreiber

> 
> Let's see, an expansion module versus a 3-way toggle switch... yeah, 
> that's a real toss-up.

Well, the expansion does a LOT more than adding a Saw mode :)

It adds more CV inputs for varying stuff, variable FM indexing for the Sine
(a "poor man's DX-7") and other goodies. There are like 12 channels of ADC
and 4 of DAC + audio stereo channels (1 IC hanging of the SPI bus). Might
as well use them all up.

Paul S.

Re: [motm] cloud generator

2007-08-11 by Jason Proctor

>Let's see, an expansion module versus a 3-way toggle switch... yeah,
>that's a real toss-up.

or VC waveshape....

Re: [motm] cloud generator

2007-08-11 by John Mahoney

At 12:18 PM 8/11/2007, Paul Schreiber wrote:

> >
> > Let's see, an expansion module versus a 3-way toggle switch... yeah,
> > that's a real toss-up.
>
>Well, the expansion does a LOT more than adding a Saw mode :)

I didn't doubt that.


>It adds more CV inputs for varying stuff, variable FM indexing for the Sine
>(a "poor man's DX-7") and other goodies. There are like 12 channels of ADC
>and 4 of DAC + audio stereo channels (1 IC hanging of the SPI bus). Might
>as well use them all up.

It all sounds good. But...

I just think that adding a "hidden" saw mode with a different switch 
(and some code, of course) would add significantly to the 
marketability of the module. Even if there's a small additional cost 
for saw mode, like 50 bucks. I don't imagine the expander will be 
cheap -- what MOTM module is? So if getting a supersaw VCO requires 
spending $400 plus, say, $300... well, I don't know what the market 
will bear, but for $700 one can probably just buy a Roland synth with 
supersaw and be done with it. (Yes, yes, the modular market is 
different than the keyboard market, whatever.)

That's enough from me. Too much, perhaps. ;-)
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john


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