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Scanner Chorus pcb interest?

Scanner Chorus pcb interest?

2007-07-06 by JH.

Thinking about future pcb projects ...

One thing I wanted to do for a long time is a stereo chorus based on my
electronic emulation of the Hammond Scanner Vibrato.

I've built something like that a few years ago:

http://jhaible.heim.at/scanner_vibrato/jh_scanner_vibrato.html

This was purely intended to be an emulation of the Hammond Chorus/Vibrato
effect, but I always thought it would also make an interesting, more
general, and stereo, chorus device.

That would be a "true analogue" chorus in a different sense than the
BBD-based effects, because the signal is not sampled.

It's not free of side effects, thou. It has a somewhat rough modulation
waveform, as instead of changing a delay time continuously, it interpolates
between 9 taps of a 1ms analogue delay line. It's a linear interpolation,
not a switching - best thing is you listen to the sound samples and decide
for yourself. It's very rough (in a Hammond-ish way!) for vibrato, and
increasingly smoother when the dry signal is mixed in for chorus.

It's a quite complicated method to crate a simple chorus, compared to a BBD
circuit. It requires a 50-pole (fifty!) low pass filter, but that can easily
be built from 25 cheap inductors (less than a dollar per piece at Mouser)
and 25 capacitors.

On the positive side, it's a lot more "direct" sounding than a BBD-based (or
digital delay based) chorus, as the maximum delay time thru the whole
circuit is only 1ms. (Speak of latency ...)

If there's enough interest, this could be a project for a future PCB
development. I wouldn't restrict this to Hammond emulation, but make a
mono-in / stereo out device in the fashion of many Roland / Boss dual-BBD
chorus circuits. Just without BBD. Let me know what you think ...

JH.

PS: this is not to be confused with my Interpolating Scanner, which is
planned to be a future MOTM module.

Re: Scanner Chorus pcb interest?

2007-07-07 by wjhall11

We're very interested, JH. We have several upcoming applications for
this in my recordings next year. So we hope it manifasts soonish <g>.
Thanks. Bill (and Will)


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--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "JH." <jhaible@...> wrote:
>
> Thinking about future pcb projects ...
>
> One thing I wanted to do for a long time is a stereo chorus based on my
> electronic emulation of the Hammond Scanner Vibrato.
>
> I've built something like that a few years ago:
>
> http://jhaible.heim.at/scanner_vibrato/jh_scanner_vibrato.html
>
> This was purely intended to be an emulation of the Hammond
Chorus/Vibrato
> effect, but I always thought it would also make an interesting, more
> general, and stereo, chorus device.
>
> That would be a "true analogue" chorus in a different sense than the
> BBD-based effects, because the signal is not sampled.
>
> It's not free of side effects, thou. It has a somewhat rough modulation
> waveform, as instead of changing a delay time continuously, it
interpolates
> between 9 taps of a 1ms analogue delay line. It's a linear
interpolation,
> not a switching - best thing is you listen to the sound samples and
decide
> for yourself. It's very rough (in a Hammond-ish way!) for vibrato, and
> increasingly smoother when the dry signal is mixed in for chorus.
>
> It's a quite complicated method to crate a simple chorus, compared
to a BBD
> circuit. It requires a 50-pole (fifty!) low pass filter, but that
can easily
> be built from 25 cheap inductors (less than a dollar per piece at
Mouser)
> and 25 capacitors.
>
> On the positive side, it's a lot more "direct" sounding than a
BBD-based (or
> digital delay based) chorus, as the maximum delay time thru the whole
> circuit is only 1ms. (Speak of latency ...)
>
> If there's enough interest, this could be a project for a future PCB
> development. I wouldn't restrict this to Hammond emulation, but make a
> mono-in / stereo out device in the fashion of many Roland / Boss
dual-BBD
> chorus circuits. Just without BBD. Let me know what you think ...
>
> JH.
>
> PS: this is not to be confused with my Interpolating Scanner, which is
> planned to be a future MOTM module.
>

Re: Scanner Chorus pcb interest?

2007-07-13 by edibennardo

If it can be connected to the mono output of my several Hammond
clones and it does its job (I'm interested in the Hammond chorus
simulation while all additional features may be welcome of course)
I'm more than interested and I'd take not less than three PCBs
Enrico Dibennardo (Sicily)


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--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "JH." <jhaible@...> wrote:
>
> Thinking about future pcb projects ...
>
> One thing I wanted to do for a long time is a stereo chorus based
on my
> electronic emulation of the Hammond Scanner Vibrato.
>
> I've built something like that a few years ago:
>
> http://jhaible.heim.at/scanner_vibrato/jh_scanner_vibrato.html
>
> This was purely intended to be an emulation of the Hammond
Chorus/Vibrato
> effect, but I always thought it would also make an interesting,
more
> general, and stereo, chorus device.
>
> That would be a "true analogue" chorus in a different sense than
the
> BBD-based effects, because the signal is not sampled.
>
> It's not free of side effects, thou. It has a somewhat rough
modulation
> waveform, as instead of changing a delay time continuously, it
interpolates
> between 9 taps of a 1ms analogue delay line. It's a linear
interpolation,
> not a switching - best thing is you listen to the sound samples
and decide
> for yourself. It's very rough (in a Hammond-ish way!) for vibrato,
and
> increasingly smoother when the dry signal is mixed in for chorus.
>
> It's a quite complicated method to crate a simple chorus, compared
to a BBD
> circuit. It requires a 50-pole (fifty!) low pass filter, but that
can easily
> be built from 25 cheap inductors (less than a dollar per piece at
Mouser)
> and 25 capacitors.
>
> On the positive side, it's a lot more "direct" sounding than a BBD-
based (or
> digital delay based) chorus, as the maximum delay time thru the
whole
> circuit is only 1ms. (Speak of latency ...)
>
> If there's enough interest, this could be a project for a future
PCB
> development. I wouldn't restrict this to Hammond emulation, but
make a
> mono-in / stereo out device in the fashion of many Roland / Boss
dual-BBD
> chorus circuits. Just without BBD. Let me know what you think ...
>
> JH.
>
> PS: this is not to be confused with my Interpolating Scanner,
which is
> planned to be a future MOTM module.
>

Re: Scanner Chorus pcb interest?

2007-07-13 by JH.

>If it can be connected to the mono output of my several Hammond
>clones and it does its job (I'm interested in the Hammond chorus
>simulation while all additional features may be welcome of course)
>I'm more than interested and I'd take not less than three PCBs
>Enrico Dibennardo (Sicily)

Hi Enrico,

do you consider the sound demos on this site
http://jhaible.heim.at/scanner_vibrato/jh_scanner_vibrato.html
close enough for an emulation?
(If you consider that the input signal isn't from a real Hammond;
I've put a "dry" clip there for comparison, such that you can get
an impression what the scanner vibrato effect does.)

Best Regards,

JH.


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--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "JH." <jhaible@...> wrote:
>
> Thinking about future pcb projects ...
>
> One thing I wanted to do for a long time is a stereo chorus based
on my
> electronic emulation of the Hammond Scanner Vibrato.
>
> I've built something like that a few years ago:
>
> http://jhaible.heim.at/scanner_vibrato/jh_scanner_vibrato.html
>
> This was purely intended to be an emulation of the Hammond
Chorus/Vibrato
> effect, but I always thought it would also make an interesting,
more
> general, and stereo, chorus device.
>
> That would be a "true analogue" chorus in a different sense than
the
> BBD-based effects, because the signal is not sampled.
>
> It's not free of side effects, thou. It has a somewhat rough
modulation
> waveform, as instead of changing a delay time continuously, it
interpolates
> between 9 taps of a 1ms analogue delay line. It's a linear
interpolation,
> not a switching - best thing is you listen to the sound samples
and decide
> for yourself. It's very rough (in a Hammond-ish way!) for vibrato,
and
> increasingly smoother when the dry signal is mixed in for chorus.
>
> It's a quite complicated method to crate a simple chorus, compared
to a BBD
> circuit. It requires a 50-pole (fifty!) low pass filter, but that
can easily
> be built from 25 cheap inductors (less than a dollar per piece at
Mouser)
> and 25 capacitors.
>
> On the positive side, it's a lot more "direct" sounding than a BBD-
based (or
> digital delay based) chorus, as the maximum delay time thru the
whole
> circuit is only 1ms. (Speak of latency ...)
>
> If there's enough interest, this could be a project for a future
PCB
> development. I wouldn't restrict this to Hammond emulation, but
make a
> mono-in / stereo out device in the fashion of many Roland / Boss
dual-BBD
> chorus circuits. Just without BBD. Let me know what you think ...
>
> JH.
>
> PS: this is not to be confused with my Interpolating Scanner,
which is
> planned to be a future MOTM module.
>