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1v/hz vs. 1v/oct

1v/hz vs. 1v/oct

2006-11-15 by Jonathan Snipes

Hey friends,

I just acquired a metasonix tm-3 oscillator, which takes a CV input  
of 1v/hz (as opposed to 1v/oct) ... I got the one with MIDI, so I can  
theoretically drive it alongside my other 1v/oct equipment on two  
separate midi channels that output the same information, but that's  
rather inelegant, and what if I want to drive it from a non-MIDI CV  
source (LFO, envelope, sequencer, etc) or add slew to it, etc etc?

Is there a handy conversion module that goes back and forth between  
the two anywhere?  or a PCB/schematic of one I could build?  I don't  
know a lot about it, but seems like it would be pretty useful and not  
*too* tough, yeah?

-Jonathan

Re: [motm] 1v/hz vs. 1v/oct

2006-11-16 by ach_gott@yahoo.com

I'm actually really curious about this from the opposite perspective.  I'd like to be able to do pseudo-additive synthesis using a small collection of oscillators and all of mine are callibrated for 1v/Oct.  I'd like to be able to have a separate amplitude envelope for, say, partials that are multiples of the fourth harmonic.  But at this point, I can't take the log of 4x, where x is the fundamental to get the right calculation (I think I have that right, I'm talking off the top of my head walking home).  Psim would be the key, I suppose, but that won't ever happen.  The only way I can think of is multiple midi channels off the same gate with each such harmonic scored.  Not sure how to handle this for live performance, which is what I want.

Cheers,
eric f


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-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Snipes <j.snipes@ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:25:30 
To:motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] 1v/hz vs. 1v/oct

Hey friends,
 
 I just acquired a metasonix tm-3 oscillator, which takes a CV input 
 of 1v/hz (as opposed to 1v/oct) ... I got the one with MIDI, so I can 
 theoretically drive it alongside my other 1v/oct equipment on two 
 separate midi channels that output the same information, but that's 
 rather inelegant, and what if I want to drive it from a non-MIDI CV 
 source (LFO, envelope, sequencer, etc) or add slew to it, etc etc?
 
 Is there a handy conversion module that goes back and forth between 
 the two anywhere? or a PCB/schematic of one I could build? I don't 
 know a lot about it, but seems like it would be pretty useful and not 
 *too* tough, yeah?
 
 -Jonathan

Re: [motm] 1v/hz vs. 1v/oct

2006-11-16 by Richard Brewster

Here's an interesting article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CV/Gate

The term is Hz/Volt and the article shows a 55Hz/V example.  This 
doesn't answer the question.  But it clarifies it.  You need to specify 
the Hz/V you want.  The circuit to transform 1V/octave to 55Hz/Volt 
would implement a transform function going from the voltages values on 
the top row to the corresponding ones on the bottom:

X - Y
1.00 - 1.00
2.00 - 2.00
3.00 - 4.00
4.00 - 8.00
5.00 - 16.00

Y = f(X)

So what is f?  My math isn't that good tonight.

Richard Brewster


Jonathan Snipes wrote:
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> Hey friends,
>
> I just acquired a metasonix tm-3 oscillator, which takes a CV input  
> of 1v/hz (as opposed to 1v/oct) ... I got the one with MIDI, so I can  
> theoretically drive it alongside my other 1v/oct equipment on two  
> separate midi channels that output the same information, but that's  
> rather inelegant, and what if I want to drive it from a non-MIDI CV  
> source (LFO, envelope, sequencer, etc) or add slew to it, etc etc?
>
> Is there a handy conversion module that goes back and forth between  
> the two anywhere?  or a PCB/schematic of one I could build?  I don't  
> know a lot about it, but seems like it would be pretty useful and not  
> *too* tough, yeah?
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [motm] 1v/hz vs. 1v/oct

2006-11-16 by Paul Schreiber

Errr....that *can't* be correct. 256V for middle C??!?

Paul S.

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Subject: [motm] 1v/hz vs. 1v/oct


> Hey friends,
> 
> I just acquired a metasonix tm-3 oscillator, which takes a CV input  
> of 1v/hz (as opposed to 1v/oct) ... I got the one with MIDI, so I can  
> theoretically drive it alongside my other 1v/oct equipment on two  
> separate midi channels that output the same information, but that's  
> rather inelegant, and what if I want to drive it from a non-MIDI CV  
> source (LFO, envelope, sequencer, etc) or add slew to it, etc etc?
> 
> Is there a handy conversion module that goes back and forth between  
> the two anywhere?  or a PCB/schematic of one I could build?  I don't  
> know a lot about it, but seems like it would be pretty useful and not  
> *too* tough, yeah?
> 
> -Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [motm] 1v/hz vs. 1v/oct

2006-11-16 by Jason Proctor

y = 2^(x - 1)

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>Here's an interesting article:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CV/Gate
>
>The term is Hz/Volt and the article shows a 55Hz/V example.  This
>doesn't answer the question.  But it clarifies it.  You need to specify
>the Hz/V you want.  The circuit to transform 1V/octave to 55Hz/Volt
>would implement a transform function going from the voltages values on
>the top row to the corresponding ones on the bottom:
>
>X - Y
>1.00 - 1.00
>2.00 - 2.00
>3.00 - 4.00
>4.00 - 8.00
>5.00 - 16.00
>
>Y = f(X)
>
>So what is f?  My math isn't that good tonight.
>
>Richard Brewster
>
>
>Jonathan Snipes wrote:
>>  Hey friends,
>>
>>  I just acquired a metasonix tm-3 oscillator, which takes a CV input 
>>  of 1v/hz (as opposed to 1v/oct) ... I got the one with MIDI, so I can 
>>  theoretically drive it alongside my other 1v/oct equipment on two 
>>  separate midi channels that output the same information, but that's 
>>  rather inelegant, and what if I want to drive it from a non-MIDI CV 
>>  source (LFO, envelope, sequencer, etc) or add slew to it, etc etc?
>>
>>  Is there a handy conversion module that goes back and forth between 
>>  the two anywhere?  or a PCB/schematic of one I could build?  I don't 
>>  know a lot about it, but seems like it would be pretty useful and not 
>>  *too* tough, yeah?
>>
>>  -Jonathan
>>
>>
>> 
>>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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