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Another 650 demo

Another 650 demo

2006-09-12 by djbrow54

Another MOTM-650 arpeggiation sequence using my HoldAllNotes program:
650 demo-holdallnote2.mp3

The PSIM sends the note on's, but not the note off's to the 650
allowing me to build up a pingpong sequence for the first 16 notes.
All other MIDI notes are then played live over top of the sequence. No
other modules other than my spring reverb. In the files section.

Dave

Re: [motm] Another 650 demo

2006-09-13 by xamboldt

The HoldAllNotes function can also be created by using the sustain
pedal, no? Am I missing something? (wouldn't be the first time!) :)

-Chris

On Sep 11, 2006, at 10:39 PM, djbrow54 wrote:

> Another MOTM-650 arpeggiation sequence using my HoldAllNotes program:
> 650 demo-holdallnote2.mp3
>
> The PSIM sends the note on's, but not the note off's to the 650
> allowing me to build up a pingpong sequence for the first 16 notes.
> All other MIDI notes are then played live over top of the sequence. No
> other modules other than my spring reverb. In the files section.
>
> Dave
>
>
>

Re: Another 650 demo

2006-09-13 by djbrow54

I would expect so. It depends on how the 650 treats the pedal. I
wanted no operator intervention so when I get a sequence I like then I
am free to do other stuff including wandering around. It only took
about 11 lines of code to add to my template so it wasn't a big deal.
- Dave

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, xamboldt <xamboldt@...> wrote:
>
> The HoldAllNotes function can also be created by using the sustain
> pedal, no? Am I missing something? (wouldn't be the first time!) :)
>
> -Chris
>
> On Sep 11, 2006, at 10:39 PM, djbrow54 wrote:
>
> > Another MOTM-650 arpeggiation sequence using my HoldAllNotes
program:
> > 650 demo-holdallnote2.mp3
> >
> > The PSIM sends the note on's, but not the note off's to the 650
> > allowing me to build up a pingpong sequence for the first 16
notes.
> > All other MIDI notes are then played live over top of the
sequence. No
> > other modules other than my spring reverb. In the files section.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [motm] Re: Another 650 demo

2006-09-13 by J.D. McEachin

At 03:23 AM 9/13/2006 -0000, djbrow54 wrote:

>I would expect so. It depends on how the 650 treats the pedal.

The sustain pedal holds the first 16 notes played. That's the size of the note buffer, so sustaining the notes with an external keyboard or sequencer like Dave is doing won't increase that.

Here's something that Dave's program might not do - when holding the sustain pedal with the 650's arpeggiator, if ALL keys are released, they will arpeggiate until new notes are played. At that time, the old notes get dumped and the new notes start arpeggiating. I think that's pretty standard for midi arpeggiators.


>I wanted no operator intervention so when I get a sequence I like then I
>am free to do other stuff including wandering around.

Me too. The enhanced version of the firmware will have a similar foot-free "hold" feature, but with a twist. When "hold" is on, the sutain pedal can be used to add to the playing arpeggio. For example, play 3 notes, walk away from the keyboard and tweak the patch, then come back, press the sustain pedal and play a note, and the arpeggio will be 4 notes long. If you don't press the sustain pedal, the arpeggio is only 1 note.

The cool thing about this is, you can double select notes in the arpeggio, say, ABACAB.

Uh oh, I've probably given Dave too many ideas. ;)

Jeffrey

Re: Another 650 demo

2006-09-14 by djbrow54

Great enhancements. Bring 'em on - looking forward to it. Also,
anything to increase the length of the buffer from 16 would be great
also.

Any chance of sending the notes to midi out? I don't think the
current implmentation does that.

- Dave

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "J.D. McEachin" <jdm@...> wrote:
> At 03:23 AM 9/13/2006 -0000, djbrow54 wrote:>
> The sustain pedal holds the first 16 notes played. That's the
> size of the note buffer, so sustaining the notes with an external
> keyboard or sequencer like Dave is doing won't increase that.
>
> Here's something that Dave's program might not do - when holding
> the sustain pedal with the 650's arpeggiator, if ALL keys are
> released, they will arpeggiate until new notes are played. At
> that time, the old notes get dumped and the new notes start
> arpeggiating. I think that's pretty standard for midi
> arpeggiators. The enhanced version of the firmware will have a
> similar foot-free "hold" feature, but with a twist. When "hold"
> is on, the sutain pedal can be used to add to the playing
> arpeggio. For example, play 3 notes, walk away from the
> keyboard and tweak the patch, then come back, press the
> sustain pedal and play a note, and the arpeggio will be 4
> notes long. If you don't press the sustain pedal, the
> arpeggio is only 1 note.
>
> The cool thing about this is, you can double select notes
> in the arpeggio, say, ABACAB.
>
> Uh oh, I've probably given Dave too many ideas. ;)
>
> Jeffrey
>

Re: [motm] Re: Another 650 demo

2006-09-15 by J.D. McEachin

At 04:14 AM 9/14/2006 -0000, djbrow54 wrote:

>Also,
>anything to increase the length of the buffer from 16 would be great
>also.

I'll have to see if there's enough RAM when I've got everything else working.


>Any chance of sending the notes to midi out? I don't think the
>current implmentation does that.

It will be a feature in the upgrade. :)

Jeffrey