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Cute MOTM video

Cute MOTM video

2006-07-27 by Paul Schreiber

http://www.freeclyde.com/projects/motm_project/motm_video.html

There is a ~1 second break in the middle, be sure to watch it to the end credits 
:)

Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.

Joel's site has all sorts of cool pictures and audio if you snoop a bit.

Paul S.

Re: [motm] Cute MOTM video

2006-07-27 by Michael Zacherl

Am 2006-07-27 07:35, Paul Schreiber schrieb:
> http://www.freeclyde.com/projects/motm_project/motm_video.html
> 
> There is a ~1 second break in the middle, be sure to watch it to the end credits 
> :)
> 
> Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.
> 
> Joel's site has all sorts of cool pictures and audio if you snoop a bit.
> 

Who built that MOTM system?

     Michael.

Re: [motm] Cute MOTM video

2006-07-27 by Paul Schreiber

>> 
>> Joel's site has all sorts of cool pictures and audio if you snoop a bit.
>> 
> 
> Who built that MOTM system?

It's all there on the site: www.freeclyde.com

Paul S.

Re: [motm] Cute MOTM video

2006-07-27 by Stephen Drake

Wow! Although after spending all that $ on a primo cabinet, they could
fork out the $ for enough screws to attach the modules. Two per module
is just being chintzy, y'knowudimsayin'?

I liked the way the lights on the ueg followed the camera (at least
until the camera got to the manual button).

Steve

On 7/27/06, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
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> http://www.freeclyde.com/projects/motm_project/motm_video.html
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>  There is a ~1 second break in the middle, be sure to watch it to the end
> credits
>  :)
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>  Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.
>
>  Paul S.

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Re: [motm] Cute MOTM video

2006-07-27 by jneilyahoo@jneil.com

> 
> http://www.freeclyde.com/projects/motm_project/motm_video.html
> 
> There is a ~1 second break in the middle, be sure to watch it to the end credits 
> :)
> 
> Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.
> 
> Joel's site has all sorts of cool pictures and audio if you snoop a bit.
> 
> Paul S.
 
Is Knob Porn a recognized fetish yet?

That video made me feel squirmy in my tingly bits.

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RE: [motm] Cute MOTM video

2006-07-28 by Adam Schabtach

> Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.

Speaking of the 120, this is a module that isn't in my system and is on the
to-be-discontinued list. Does anyone have any samples of this unit online? I
find the ones on the MOTM site to be, uh, uncompelling, but the module seems
interesting from a theoretical standpoint. Are there any 120 owners who
would like to show me what I'm missing?

Thanks--
--Adam

Re: Cute MOTM video

2006-07-28 by djbrow54

I've modified mine with the Tellun DB-120 and the resistor values all 
changed for unity gain on the mix output.  I use mine as a pseudo-
sequencer by quantizing the mix output to drive the VCO.  Each of the 
sub outputs contributes a portion to the sequence.  I sometimes use a 
specific sub output to FM the VCO.
http://modularsynthesis.com/samples/  Journey

I've also written program for my PSIM to do the same only using non-
binary divisors.  Same concept.  Happy and Delirious are examples

I like to use the MOTM-120 because you can just start tweaking knobs 
until you get a pseudo-sequence you like.  It's pretty unpredictable. 
I rarely use it as a audio sub-divisor.  More often I use it as a LFO 
divisor or as a pseudo-sequencer.

Dave
--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Schabtach" <adam@...> wrote:
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> > Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.
> 
> Speaking of the 120, this is a module that isn't in my system and is 
on the
> to-be-discontinued list. Does anyone have any samples of this unit 
online? I
> find the ones on the MOTM site to be, uh, uncompelling, but the 
module seems
> interesting from a theoretical standpoint. Are there any 120 owners 
who
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> would like to show me what I'm missing?
> 
> Thanks--
> --Adam
>

FS: "fixed filter bank", Denoiser, Aphex Dominator II

2006-07-28 by Mark

With the recent talk about EQ's and fixed filter banks, I'd thought I 
would put my pair of Urei 539 Room Equalizers up for sale.

Built like a tank, with legendary Urei quality, these 2U graphic EQ's 
have barrier strips for balanced connections, are in decent cosmetic 
condition, and work fine.  These are 1/3 octave (31 band) EQ's, with 
an overload LED, adjustable gain, and high pass and low pass filters 
(6/12 dB, switchable).

If you like, I could send you the lousy pictures I took with a cheap camera.

Dealers typically sell these for $200.  I'll sell them for $100 each, 
or both for $250.  Buyer pays shipping.

I'm a "good trader" and all that :)

I also have a couple of items up on that auction site:

Behringer SNR2000 Denoiser
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190011111471&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:11

Aphex Dominator II Peak Limiter
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190011128761&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:11


Your consideration is appreciated :)

Re: [motm] FS: "fixed filter bank", Denoiser, Aphex Dominator II

2006-07-28 by Matthew Hiscock

On 28-Jul-06, at 12:04 PM, Mark wrote:

Dealers typically sell these for $200. I'll sell them for $100 each,
or both for $250. Buyer pays shipping.

I'm a "good trader" and all that :)

...but not so good a mathematician?

Couldn't resist.

Matthew
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Re: [motm] FS: "fixed filter bank", Denoiser, Aphex Dominator II

2006-07-28 by Mark

On 7/28/06, Matthew Hiscock put forth:
>On 28-Jul-06, at 12:04 PM, Mark wrote:
>
>>Dealers typically sell these for $200.  I'll sell them for $100 each,
>>or both for $250.  Buyer pays shipping.
>>
>>I'm a "good trader" and all that :)
>>
>
>...but not so good a mathematician?

Opps!  Sorry, that should say $150 for both.

To answer your question, my math is fine, but my typing sucks :)

Re: [motm] MOTM-120 in action, was Cute MOTM video

2006-07-28 by Richard Brewster

I of course have the MOTM-120R panel with the daughterboard and 
additional outputs.  But you don't need those modifications to get 
something quite unique, which is the *cross-product modulation*.  The 
original idea came from Electronotes.  Paul Schreiber simplified the 
circuit and made it easy to use in the 120.  I did a really neat piece 
with two MOTM-310 VCOs into the 120 in cross-product mode.  It is long, 
which is why I don't have it on my website.  But I intend to be updating 
my site with a lot more pictures and more music samples, including ones 
that demonstrate special modules like the 120.  I will make a shortened 
MP3 of that piece.

Again, it's the cross-product mode that makes the 120 unique, at least 
for me.  And with the DC coupled output on the modified version, I use 
it as a sequencer of sorts, too.  That is all in addition to the main 
feature of sub-octave generation.

Richard Brewster
http://www.pugix.com

Adam Schabtach wrote:
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>> Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.
>>     
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> Speaking of the 120, this is a module that isn't in my system and is on the
> to-be-discontinued list. Does anyone have any samples of this unit online? I
> find the ones on the MOTM site to be, uh, uncompelling, but the module seems
> interesting from a theoretical standpoint. Are there any 120 owners who
> would like to show me what I'm missing?
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> Thanks--
> --Adam
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Re: MOTM-120 in action, was Cute MOTM video

2006-07-29 by Mike Marsh

Hey Richard -

Maybe you could make an exerpt of the piece and MP3 it (ugh) and put
it up in the files section.  I'd love to hear it!

Mike

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@...> wrote:
>
> I of course have the MOTM-120R panel with the daughterboard and 
> additional outputs.  But you don't need those modifications to get 
> something quite unique, which is the *cross-product modulation*.  The 
> original idea came from Electronotes.  Paul Schreiber simplified the 
> circuit and made it easy to use in the 120.  I did a really neat piece 
> with two MOTM-310 VCOs into the 120 in cross-product mode.  It is long, 
> which is why I don't have it on my website.  But I intend to be
updating 
> my site with a lot more pictures and more music samples, including ones 
> that demonstrate special modules like the 120.  I will make a shortened 
> MP3 of that piece.
> 
> Again, it's the cross-product mode that makes the 120 unique, at least 
> for me.  And with the DC coupled output on the modified version, I use 
> it as a sequencer of sorts, too.  That is all in addition to the main 
> feature of sub-octave generation.
> 
> Richard Brewster
> http://www.pugix.com
> 
> Adam Schabtach wrote:
> >> Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.
> >>     
> >
> > Speaking of the 120, this is a module that isn't in my system and
is on the
> > to-be-discontinued list. Does anyone have any samples of this unit
online? I
> > find the ones on the MOTM site to be, uh, uncompelling, but the
module seems
> > interesting from a theoretical standpoint. Are there any 120
owners who
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > would like to show me what I'm missing?
> >
> > Thanks--
> > --Adam
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Re: [motm] Re: MOTM-120 in action, was Cute MOTM video

2006-07-29 by Richard Brewster

To save time, I put up the full MP3 on my website.  It's 'only' 13MB 
(about 10 minutes long).

http://www.pugix.com/music-samples.htm

If you don't see Cross Product, hit your browser refresh button.

Richard

Mike Marsh wrote:
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> Hey Richard -
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> Maybe you could make an exerpt of the piece and MP3 it (ugh) and put
> it up in the files section.  I'd love to hear it!
>
> Mike
>
> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@...> wrote:
>   
>> I of course have the MOTM-120R panel with the daughterboard and 
>> additional outputs.  But you don't need those modifications to get 
>> something quite unique, which is the *cross-product modulation*.  The 
>> original idea came from Electronotes.  Paul Schreiber simplified the 
>> circuit and made it easy to use in the 120.  I did a really neat piece 
>> with two MOTM-310 VCOs into the 120 in cross-product mode.  It is long, 
>> which is why I don't have it on my website.  But I intend to be
>>     
> updating 
>   
>> my site with a lot more pictures and more music samples, including ones 
>> that demonstrate special modules like the 120.  I will make a shortened 
>> MP3 of that piece.
>>
>> Again, it's the cross-product mode that makes the 120 unique, at least 
>> for me.  And with the DC coupled output on the modified version, I use 
>> it as a sequencer of sorts, too.  That is all in addition to the main 
>> feature of sub-octave generation.
>>
>> Richard Brewster
>> http://www.pugix.com
>>
>> Adam Schabtach wrote:
>>     
>>>> Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Speaking of the 120, this is a module that isn't in my system and
>>>       
> is on the
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>>> to-be-discontinued list. Does anyone have any samples of this unit
>>>       
> online? I
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>>> find the ones on the MOTM site to be, uh, uncompelling, but the
>>>       
> module seems
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>>> interesting from a theoretical standpoint. Are there any 120
>>>       
> owners who
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>>> would like to show me what I'm missing?
>>>
>>> Thanks--
>>> --Adam
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Re: MOTM-120 in action, was Cute MOTM video

2006-07-29 by Mike Marsh

Nice!  Can you describe the patch?

Mike

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@...> wrote:
>
> To save time, I put up the full MP3 on my website.  It's 'only' 13MB 
> (about 10 minutes long).
> 
> http://www.pugix.com/music-samples.htm
> 
> If you don't see Cross Product, hit your browser refresh button.
> 
> Richard
> 
> Mike Marsh wrote:
> > Hey Richard -
> >
> > Maybe you could make an exerpt of the piece and MP3 it (ugh) and put
> > it up in the files section.  I'd love to hear it!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@> wrote:
> >   
> >> I of course have the MOTM-120R panel with the daughterboard and 
> >> additional outputs.  But you don't need those modifications to get 
> >> something quite unique, which is the *cross-product modulation*.
 The 
> >> original idea came from Electronotes.  Paul Schreiber simplified the 
> >> circuit and made it easy to use in the 120.  I did a really neat
piece 
> >> with two MOTM-310 VCOs into the 120 in cross-product mode.  It is
long, 
> >> which is why I don't have it on my website.  But I intend to be
> >>     
> > updating 
> >   
> >> my site with a lot more pictures and more music samples,
including ones 
> >> that demonstrate special modules like the 120.  I will make a
shortened 
> >> MP3 of that piece.
> >>
> >> Again, it's the cross-product mode that makes the 120 unique, at
least 
> >> for me.  And with the DC coupled output on the modified version,
I use 
> >> it as a sequencer of sorts, too.  That is all in addition to the
main 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> >> feature of sub-octave generation.
> >>
> >> Richard Brewster
> >> http://www.pugix.com
> >>
> >> Adam Schabtach wrote:
> >>     
> >>>> Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> Speaking of the 120, this is a module that isn't in my system and
> >>>       
> > is on the
> >   
> >>> to-be-discontinued list. Does anyone have any samples of this unit
> >>>       
> > online? I
> >   
> >>> find the ones on the MOTM site to be, uh, uncompelling, but the
> >>>       
> > module seems
> >   
> >>> interesting from a theoretical standpoint. Are there any 120
> >>>       
> > owners who
> >   
> >>> would like to show me what I'm missing?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks--
> >>> --Adam
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Re: [motm] Re: MOTM-120 in action, was Cute MOTM video

2006-07-30 by Richard Brewster

I describe the patch briefly on my website, but here's more detail.  I 
recreated this patch about a month ago, too, with some success.  (I 
document my patches on large sheets of graph paper, tossed into a pile, 
and I dug that one out.  I have it in front of me now.)  The Cross 
Product patch uses:  2 MOTM-310, MOTM-120, MOTM-410 with OMS-410, 
MOTM-440, MOTM-390, triple S&H (2 Oakley + MOTM -101), MOTM-820.  It's 
straight-forward, both in the audio and the control paths, with no 
feedback anywhere.  The 310s go to the 120 inputs (A, B) and from the 
120 mix output in parallel through the two filters.   The final audio is 
a mix of two 410 outputs: 1 (left) and 3 (right), and the 440 (center).  
The three sample and holds drive it all.  The Oakleys are both clocked 
by one 390 square wave, each on the opposite clock polarity.  The first 
S&H out cascades to the second S&H input (in addition to the 820 
input).  The slew limiting feature of the Oakley S&H modules plays an 
important part in keeping the pitches from varying too far on each clock 
cycle.  The first S&H goes through the 820 lag processor to one 310 VCO 
1V/Oct input.  The second S&H uses no lag to the second VCO.  Since the 
VCOs are tuned in unison to start (or almost -- I think there is a 
slight beat), and since the dual S&H cascades the first voltage to the 
second VCO, the result is that on each new clock they diverge in 
frequency and then gradually converge again on the second half of the 
clock cycle, often as lag ends.  This would not be so interesting, if it 
weren't for the cross-product mixing.  The MOTM-101 is internally 
clocked.  It controls the both the 820 lag rate and the 410 internal LFO 
rates.  The 440 FM is correlated with the 410 frequencies by means of 
one of the internal LFOs brought out through the Oakley OMS-410 
companion module.  That is it.  Not a big patch.  The devil is in the 
knob tweaking.  There is a good deal of movement control to be done 
here, but it always retains the character of the MOTM-120 in 
cross-product mode and the sound of the two MOTM filters.

Richard
http://www.pugix.com

Mike Marsh wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Nice!  Can you describe the patch?
>
> Mike
>
> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@...> wrote:
>   
>> To save time, I put up the full MP3 on my website.  It's 'only' 13MB 
>> (about 10 minutes long).
>>
>> http://www.pugix.com/music-samples.htm
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>> If you don't see Cross Product, hit your browser refresh button.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Mike Marsh wrote:
>>     
>>> Hey Richard -
>>>
>>> Maybe you could make an exerpt of the piece and MP3 it (ugh) and put
>>> it up in the files section.  I'd love to hear it!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@> wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> I of course have the MOTM-120R panel with the daughterboard and 
>>>> additional outputs.  But you don't need those modifications to get 
>>>> something quite unique, which is the *cross-product modulation*.
>>>>         
>  The 
>   
>>>> original idea came from Electronotes.  Paul Schreiber simplified the 
>>>> circuit and made it easy to use in the 120.  I did a really neat
>>>>         
> piece 
>   
>>>> with two MOTM-310 VCOs into the 120 in cross-product mode.  It is
>>>>         
> long, 
>   
>>>> which is why I don't have it on my website.  But I intend to be
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> updating 
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> my site with a lot more pictures and more music samples,
>>>>         
> including ones 
>   
>>>> that demonstrate special modules like the 120.  I will make a
>>>>         
> shortened 
>   
>>>> MP3 of that piece.
>>>>
>>>> Again, it's the cross-product mode that makes the 120 unique, at
>>>>         
> least 
>   
>>>> for me.  And with the DC coupled output on the modified version,
>>>>         
> I use 
>   
>>>> it as a sequencer of sorts, too.  That is all in addition to the
>>>>         
> main 
>   
>>>> feature of sub-octave generation.
>>>>
>>>> Richard Brewster
>>>> http://www.pugix.com
>>>>
>>>> Adam Schabtach wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> Good audio of the MOTM-120 in action.
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Speaking of the 120, this is a module that isn't in my system and
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>> is on the
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>> to-be-discontinued list. Does anyone have any samples of this unit
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>> online? I
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>> find the ones on the MOTM site to be, uh, uncompelling, but the
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>> module seems
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>> interesting from a theoretical standpoint. Are there any 120
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>> owners who
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>> would like to show me what I'm missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>> --Adam
>>>>>
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Re: [motm] Re: MOTM-120 in action, was Cute MOTM video

2006-07-30 by Richard Brewster

I mean knob tweaking to set it all up.  There is no knob touching at all 
during the recording.

-Richard

Richard Brewster wrote:
> Not a big patch.  The devil is in the 
> knob tweaking....