MOTM

Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.

Given the well known troubles we have faced recently, and my decision 
to simplify my life for awhile, this seems like the best solution.

We will sell the current inventory of brackets, flat rails, and patch 
cables from the website. Once those are gone, that's it!

Please order what you need from http://www.stoogeindustries.com

Thanks to everyone who has ever been a customer, or just sent 
encouraging words to us.

Moe

Your efforts over the years have been greatly appreciated, and you
will be missed. Hopefully others will fill in for you, in time, but in
the meantime you guys will be missed!

I just ordered yet more flat rails - hope there's not a run on them now!

Steve Drake

On 6/17/06, mate_stubb <mate_stubb@...> wrote:
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> Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.
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Stephen Drake
sduck409@...
makeme1witheverything@...

'evening--

Sorry to hear, but I certainly understand. I sure appreciate the efforts of
all Stooges who made the venture "go" for the time it went.

That reminds me, I still have some unofficial Stooge bits to work on here...

Thanks very much!

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mate_stubb

>Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.

Sic transit gloria mundi.  It has been a tough year.
Thank you Moe, Paul H, Larry wherever you are, and others who have worked so
hard to provide us with such a great resource over the years.

-George

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "mate_stubb" <mate_stubb@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 7:59 PM
Subject: [motm] Announcement - Stooge Industries


> Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.
>
> Given the well known troubles we have faced recently, and my decision
> to simplify my life for awhile, this seems like the best solution.
>
> We will sell the current inventory of brackets, flat rails, and patch
> cables from the website. Once those are gone, that's it!
>
> Please order what you need from http://www.stoogeindustries.com
>
> Thanks to everyone who has ever been a customer, or just sent
> encouraging words to us.
>
> Moe

I'm sorry to see you guys go, but I understand your reasons. Thank you all 
so much for your service to the community over the years :)

--mikes

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006, mate_stubb wrote:

> Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.
>
> Given the well known troubles we have faced recently, and my decision
> to simplify my life for awhile, this seems like the best solution.
>
> We will sell the current inventory of brackets, flat rails, and patch
> cables from the website. Once those are gone, that's it!
>
> Please order what you need from http://www.stoogeindustries.com
>
> Thanks to everyone who has ever been a customer, or just sent
> encouraging words to us.
>
> Moe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Moe,

 

This was sad news for me to read, and it must have been a hard decision to
make for you.  It certainly has been a tough year for our hobby, I'm sure
there is nothing but understanding and well wishes for the "Stooges".  I
would like to add mine as well.

 

That being said, as I read your email my heart sank a notch or two.  I had
promised myself (and gotten agreement from my wife!) that this was going to
a banner year for expanding my modular.  Stooge Industries products was
going to be a big part of that.  When I read the email, I immediately put in
an order for a bunch of flat rails to make sure I was covered for my cabinet
project (hope there is enough stock remaining).

 

I was wondering if anyone has contacted you off list to discuss picking up
the standard.  In my opinion, it would be a shame to see these services fade
away.  While I haven't invested any real money yet, I have recently looked
seriously into some screen printing gear (I had a lot of experience with it
in high school and college), and was thinking about setting myself up for my
own custom panel needs.  Now it seems there may be some room to expand that
idea.  I do also have access to a full machine shop, owned by my Dad's next
door neighbor, for which I also do computer support for.  So I have access
to some machinery and raw material stock.  The only trick for me would be
the paint, but in the NJ area that may not be too much of a problem.

 

I'm just brainstorming a bit at this point, but I might be interested in
making a run at this, should all the planets line up properly.  It would
likely start very small, just like you and Larry did originally.  If anyone
else has expressed interest, please feel free to pass on my email address to
them.  I would certainly be interested in at least chatting about it.

 

Thanks and best regards,

 

Phil Peery

 

---------------

Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.

Given the well known troubles we have faced recently, and my decision 
to simplify my life for awhile, this seems like the best solution.

We will sell the current inventory of brackets, flat rails, and patch 
cables from the website. Once those are gone, that's it!

Please order what you need from  <http://www.stoogeindustries.com>
http://www.stoogeindustries.com

Thanks to everyone who has ever been a customer, or just sent 
encouraging words to us.

Moe

>Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.

Sad news, but understandable given the past year's tragic events. I'm 
glad to have been a customer of Stooge Industries. My synth life 
wouldn't have been the same without those brackets, rails, panels, 
and cables. Wish you guys all the best.

I will echo Mike's comment here. The service provided by Stooge 
Industries was greatly appreciated and will be missed.

Regards, Scott E.
=================================================
Mike Estee wrote:

>
>
> I'm sorry to see you guys go, but I understand your reasons. Thank you 
> all
> so much for your service to the community over the years :)
>
> --mikes
>
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006, mate_stubb wrote:
>
> > Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.
> >
> > Given the well known troubles we have faced recently, and my decision
> > to simplify my life for awhile, this seems like the best solution.
> >
> > We will sell the current inventory of brackets, flat rails, and patch
> > cables from the website. Once those are gone, that's it!
> >
> > Please order what you need from http://www.stoogeindustries.com 
> <http://www.stoogeindustries.com>
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who has ever been a customer, or just sent
> > encouraging words to us.
> >
> > Moe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Sorry for the bandwidth everyone.  This was meant for Moe only.  Too 
many mouse clicks, I guess....

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Phil Peery <ppeery@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Moe,
> 
>  
> 
> This was sad news for me to read, and it must have been a hard 
decision to
> make for you.  It certainly has been a tough year for our hobby, 
I'm sure
> there is nothing but understanding and well wishes for 
the "Stooges".  I
> would like to add mine as well.
> 
>  
> 
> That being said, as I read your email my heart sank a notch or 
two.  I had
> promised myself (and gotten agreement from my wife!) that this was 
going to
> a banner year for expanding my modular.  Stooge Industries 
products was
> going to be a big part of that.  When I read the email, I 
immediately put in
> an order for a bunch of flat rails to make sure I was covered for 
my cabinet
> project (hope there is enough stock remaining).
> 
>  
> 
> I was wondering if anyone has contacted you off list to discuss 
picking up
> the standard.  In my opinion, it would be a shame to see these 
services fade
> away.  While I haven't invested any real money yet, I have 
recently looked
> seriously into some screen printing gear (I had a lot of 
experience with it
> in high school and college), and was thinking about setting myself 
up for my
> own custom panel needs.  Now it seems there may be some room to 
expand that
> idea.  I do also have access to a full machine shop, owned by my 
Dad's next
> door neighbor, for which I also do computer support for.  So I 
have access
> to some machinery and raw material stock.  The only trick for me 
would be
> the paint, but in the NJ area that may not be too much of a 
problem.
> 
>  
> 
> I'm just brainstorming a bit at this point, but I might be 
interested in
> making a run at this, should all the planets line up properly.  It 
would
> likely start very small, just like you and Larry did originally.  
If anyone
> else has expressed interest, please feel free to pass on my email 
address to
> them.  I would certainly be interested in at least chatting about 
it.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks and best regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Phil Peery
> 
>  
> 
> ---------------
> 
> Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.
> 
> Given the well known troubles we have faced recently, and my 
decision 
> to simplify my life for awhile, this seems like the best solution.
> 
> We will sell the current inventory of brackets, flat rails, and 
patch 

> cables from the website. Once those are gone, that's it!
> 
> Please order what you need from  <http://www.stoogeindustries.com>
> http://www.stoogeindustries.com
> 
> Thanks to everyone who has ever been a customer, or just sent 
> encouraging words to us.
> 
> Moe
>

I too will miss Stooge Industries.  Thanks to Dave (Moe), Paul H. and Larry
(Rest in Peace) for their support of our hobby over the years.

In the spirit of DIYness, I've created a web page showing some available
options.  While not as convenient as Stooge Industries, the DIY ethic can
continue to thrive. I can use this site to collect any other information
that is useful for DIYers.

http://www.wavemakers-synth.com/motm/diy_resources.html

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> mate_stubb
> 
> Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.
> 
> Given the well known troubles we have faced recently, and my decision
> to simplify my life for awhile, this seems like the best solution.
> 
> We will sell the current inventory of brackets, flat rails, and patch
> cables from the website. Once those are gone, that's it!
> 
> Please order what you need from http://www.stoogeindustries.com
> 
> Thanks to everyone who has ever been a customer, or just sent
> encouraging words to us.
> 
> Moe
>

Thanks for the web page, John. I'm curious about your comment regarding HPGL
files for FPE panels. Are you saying that it's cheaper to have a panel
fabricated by generating an HPGL file and placing that file in the FPD file?
That doesn't make sense to me, because I thought that FPE prices were
basically determined (in part) by the amount of engraving done, and wouldn't
that be the same regardless of how the commands to the CNC machine are
generated? 
 
(I've always kept my FPE costs down by not putting in the MOTM-style tick
marks. I put five tick marks around the knobs and call it good enough; I
tune by ear rather than eye anyway. I just did a 2U panel with 4 knobs and
16 jacks; cost was under $60.)
 
Thanks--
--Adam


  _____  

From: John Loffink [mailto:jloffink@...] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:45 PM
To: 'mate_stubb'; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] Announcement - Stooge Industries



I too will miss Stooge Industries. Thanks to Dave (Moe), Paul H. and Larry
(Rest in Peace) for their support of our hobby over the years.

In the spirit of DIYness, I've created a web page showing some available
options. While not as convenient as Stooge Industries, the DIY ethic can
continue to thrive. I can use this site to collect any other information
that is useful for DIYers.

http://www.wavemake
<http://www.wavemakers-synth.com/motm/diy_resources.html>
rs-synth.com/motm/diy_resources.html

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microton <http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com> al-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemake <http://www.wavemakers-synth.com> rs-synth.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: motm@yahoogroups. <mailto:motm%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:motm@yahoogroups. <mailto:motm%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of
> mate_stubb
> 
> Stooge Industries is closing its (figurative) doors.
> 
> Given the well known troubles we have faced recently, and my decision
> to simplify my life for awhile, this seems like the best solution.
> 
> We will sell the current inventory of brackets, flat rails, and patch
> cables from the website. Once those are gone, that's it!
> 
> Please order what you need from http://www.stoogein
<http://www.stoogeindustries.com> dustries.com

> 
> Thanks to everyone who has ever been a customer, or just sent
> encouraging words to us.
> 
> Moe
>

Yes, it is cheaper to use HPGL files.  You can go to the Computer Voltage
Source group on Yahoo to see an example of a 5U MOTM format panel.  One
panel with fully discrete tick marks is $202.  A similar panel with tick
marks as HPGL files is down to $112.  

 

John Loffink

The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site

http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com

The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site

http://www.wavemakers-synth.com

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam
Schabtach
 

Thanks for the web page, John. I'm curious about your comment regarding HPGL
files for FPE panels. Are you saying that it's cheaper to have a panel
fabricated by generating an HPGL file and placing that file in the FPD file?
That doesn't make sense to me, because I thought that FPE prices were
basically determined (in part) by the amount of engraving done, and wouldn't
that be the same regardless of how the commands to the CNC machine are
generated? 

 

(I've always kept my FPE costs down by not putting in the MOTM-style tick
marks. I put five tick marks around the knobs and call it good enough; I
tune by ear rather than eye anyway. I just did a 2U panel with 4 knobs and
16 jacks; cost was under $60.)

 

Thanks--

--Adam

Hello,

[joke mode on ]
John are you using gold plated tick marks ? ;)
[joke mode off ]

I take a little example : one of my most complex FPD panel is  the 
QuadVCA module

http://m.bareille.free.fr/modular1/quadvca/quadvca.htm .

This panel contain  6 pots +6 switches and 12 jacks ,  MOTM style 5Ux2U, 
HPGL files for all tick marks . So  including shipping and VAT, one cost 
56 euros ( at Schaeffer.de...)

Most of MOTM style panels i have ordered to Schaeffer are in the range 
30 to 60 euros for 1x5U or 2x5U panels...You can see them on my website 
and download the FPD files too...  Obviously HPGL file reduce a lot the 
final panel price, do not ask me why but it is like this :)

Cheers,

Marc B.



John Loffink wrote:

> Yes, it is cheaper to use HPGL files.  You can go to the Computer 
> Voltage Source group on Yahoo to see an example of a 5U MOTM format 
> panel.  One panel with fully discrete tick marks is $202.  A similar 
> panel with tick marks as HPGL files is down to $112. 
>
>  
>
> John Loffink
>
> The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
>
> http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
>
> The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
>
> http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
>
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf 
> Of *Adam Schabtach
>  
>
> Thanks for the web page, John. I'm curious about your comment 
> regarding HPGL files for FPE panels. Are you saying that it's cheaper 
> to have a panel fabricated by generating an HPGL file and placing that 
> file in the FPD file? That doesn't make sense to me, because I thought 
> that FPE prices were basically determined (in part) by the amount of 
> engraving done, and wouldn't that be the same regardless of how 
> the commands to the CNC machine are generated?
>
>  
>
> (I've always kept my FPE costs down by not putting in the MOTM-style 
> tick marks. I put five tick marks around the knobs and call it good 
> enough; I tune by ear rather than eye anyway. I just did a 2U panel 
> with 4 knobs and 16 jacks; cost was under $60.)
>
>  
>
> Thanks--
>
> --Adam
>
>      
>
>

Doing a little experimentation, I found the following cost differentials:

HPGL format Pot graphic, 21 tick marks plus digits 0-4, 6-10 (5 is removed
for the pot name) = $1.88

HPGL format Pot graphic, 21 tick marks, digits are FPE fonts - $1.27 plus
$0.20-0.23 per digit = $3.42

FPE tick marks and digits, $0.21-0.22 per tick mark, $0.20-0.23 per digit =
$6.67

FPE seems to add a price penalty per instance of graphic.  If you have a
long text string then the cost delta between HPGL and FPE graphic is not as
much.

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Bareille [mailto:m.bareille@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:53 PM
> 
> I take a little example : one of my most complex FPD panel is  the
> QuadVCA module
> 
> http://m.bareille.free.fr/modular1/quadvca/quadvca.htm .
> 
> This panel contain  6 pots +6 switches and 12 jacks ,  MOTM style 5Ux2U,
> HPGL files for all tick marks . So  including shipping and VAT, one cost
> 56 euros ( at Schaeffer.de...)
> 
> Most of MOTM style panels i have ordered to Schaeffer are in the range
> 30 to 60 euros for 1x5U or 2x5U panels...You can see them on my website
> and download the FPD files too...  Obviously HPGL file reduce a lot the
> final panel price, do not ask me why but it is like this :)
> 
> 
> 
> John Loffink wrote:
> 
> > Yes, it is cheaper to use HPGL files.  You can go to the Computer
> > Voltage Source group on Yahoo to see an example of a 5U MOTM format
> > panel.  One panel with fully discrete tick marks is $202.  A similar
> > panel with tick marks as HPGL files is down to $112.
> >
> >

Actually it was 16 controls with tic marks, 27 jacks, 5 switches, 11 
LEDs, LCD, and a few other items.  I've since deleted the file since 
the HPGL version costs so much less.

The savings per HPGL object was extensive.  I actually used two HPGL 
objects per control because I didn't have any way of creating a single 
object with different line widths.  The savings make no sense and I 
assume eventually they may 'close' this loophole.

Dave

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Marc Bareille <m.bareille@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> [joke mode on ]
> John are you using gold plated tick marks ? ;)
> [joke mode off ]
> 
> I take a little example : one of my most complex FPD panel is  the 
> QuadVCA module
> 
> http://m.bareille.free.fr/modular1/quadvca/quadvca.htm .
> 
> This panel contain  6 pots +6 switches and 12 jacks ,  MOTM style 
5Ux2U, 
> HPGL files for all tick marks . So  including shipping and VAT, one 
cost 
> 56 euros ( at Schaeffer.de...)
> 
> Most of MOTM style panels i have ordered to Schaeffer are in the 
range 
> 30 to 60 euros for 1x5U or 2x5U panels...You can see them on my 
website 
> and download the FPD files too...  Obviously HPGL file reduce a lot 
the 
> final panel price, do not ask me why but it is like this :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Marc B.
> 
> 
> 
> John Loffink wrote:
> 
> > Yes, it is cheaper to use HPGL files.  You can go to the Computer 
> > Voltage Source group on Yahoo to see an example of a 5U MOTM 
format 
> > panel.  One panel with fully discrete tick marks is $202.  A 
similar 
> > panel with tick marks as HPGL files is down to $112. 
> >
> >  
> >
> > John Loffink
> >
> > The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
> >
> > http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
> >
> > The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
> >
> > http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
> >
> >  
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] *On 
Behalf 
> > Of *Adam Schabtach
> >  
> >
> > Thanks for the web page, John. I'm curious about your comment 
> > regarding HPGL files for FPE panels. Are you saying that it's 
cheaper 
> > to have a panel fabricated by generating an HPGL file and placing 
that 
> > file in the FPD file? That doesn't make sense to me, because I 
thought 
> > that FPE prices were basically determined (in part) by the amount 
of 
> > engraving done, and wouldn't that be the same regardless of how 
> > the commands to the CNC machine are generated?
> >
> >  
> >
> > (I've always kept my FPE costs down by not putting in the MOTM-
style 
> > tick marks. I put five tick marks around the knobs and call it 
good 
> > enough; I tune by ear rather than eye anyway. I just did a 2U 
panel 

> > with 4 knobs and 16 jacks; cost was under $60.)
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thanks--
> >
> > --Adam
> >
> >      
> >
> >
>

I still had the old file on my system.

As far as HPGL in FPE being a loophole, it is more like the individual
characters and lines being a pricing mistake.  It should not cost five times
as much to type out "0 1 2 3... 10" individually as it does to type them out
as one line, but that is exactly what the pricing software does.

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> djbrow54
> 
> Actually it was 16 controls with tic marks, 27 jacks, 5 switches, 11
> LEDs, LCD, and a few other items.  I've since deleted the file since
> the HPGL version costs so much less.
> 
> The savings per HPGL object was extensive.  I actually used two HPGL
> objects per control because I didn't have any way of creating a single
> object with different line widths.  The savings make no sense and I
> assume eventually they may 'close' this loophole.
>