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2006-02-19 by ithaib
Hi everyone, I'm experimenting with my new VC LAG, and the only thing I don't understand is how to use the 3 Up/Down/Up & Down Inputs. They accept Control Voltages, right? Why do they not do anything? What am I not doing right? Thanks for any help... Ithai.
2006-02-20 by mate_stubb
Besides the possibility that it has an assembly error and does not work, could it accidentally be in bypass mode? Bypass switch mounted upside down? Is the bypass LED lit? Moe --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "ithaib" <ithaib@...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm experimenting with my new VC LAG, and the only thing I don't understand is how to use > the 3 Up/Down/Up & Down Inputs. They accept Control Voltages, right? Why do they not do
> anything? What am I not doing right? > > Thanks for any help... > > Ithai. >
2006-02-20 by Richard Brewster
Yes. It is almost certain that if the UP, DOWN, and UP/DOWN pots work as expected, the corresponding VC inputs also work. They go right to the pots. Remember, too, that the VC inputs are mainly useful with very *slowly changing* control voltages. The CV going in would normally be changing at a slower rate than the slew being imparted. A very slow LFO, EG, or a sample & hold being clocked at a slow rate would be the type of CV to use. A fast CV here might not have much of an effect. -Richard Brewster http://www.pugix.com mate_stubb wrote:
>Besides the possibility that it has an assembly error and does not >work, could it accidentally be in bypass mode? Bypass switch mounted >upside down? Is the bypass LED lit? > >Moe > >--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "ithaib" <ithaib@...> wrote: > > >>Hi everyone, >> >>I'm experimenting with my new VC LAG, and the only thing I don't >> >> >understand is how to use > > >>the 3 Up/Down/Up & Down Inputs. They accept Control Voltages, right? >> >> >Why do they not do > > >>anything? What am I not doing right? >> >>Thanks for any help... >> >>Ithai. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >
2006-02-21 by ithaib
Got it, thanks.... I fed an LFO into the inputs and it turns them on and off. Maybe when I did it before the LFO was going too fast? Maybe I was dreaming.... Thanks!! Ithai. --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@...> wrote:
> > Yes. It is almost certain that if the UP, DOWN, and UP/DOWN pots work > as expected, the corresponding VC inputs also work. They go right to > the pots. > > Remember, too, that the VC inputs are mainly useful with very *slowly > changing* control voltages. The CV going in would normally be changing > at a slower rate than the slew being imparted. A very slow LFO, EG, or > a sample & hold being clocked at a slow rate would be the type of CV to > use. A fast CV here might not have much of an effect. > > -Richard Brewster > > http://www.pugix.com > > mate_stubb wrote: > > >Besides the possibility that it has an assembly error and does not > >work, could it accidentally be in bypass mode? Bypass switch mounted > >upside down? Is the bypass LED lit? > > > >Moe > > > >--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "ithaib" <ithaib@> wrote: > > > > > >>Hi everyone, > >> > >>I'm experimenting with my new VC LAG, and the only thing I don't > >> > >> > >understand is how to use > > > > > >>the 3 Up/Down/Up & Down Inputs. They accept Control Voltages, right? > >> > >> > >Why do they not do > > > > > >>anything? What am I not doing right? > >> > >>Thanks for any help... > >> > >>Ithai. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2006-02-21 by Overand
That is actually not the proper behavior of these inputs. The CV inputs are the equivalent of turning the up, down, up/down pots themselves. there s a
2006-02-21 by ithaib
No offense taken.... What I meant though was that I got them to work. with an LFO it's easy (and you can actually get a cool effect with it, it kicks in randomly while you're playing. I think you're right - from what I see, when the LFO goes into negative it turns the slewing off completely) I also controlled the amount of slewing with an EG, which I think is more like what you're saying. At first I was thinking of the CV inputs the wrong way, that's why I wasn't hearing anything. Thanks! More experimenting to do... Ithai. --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Overand <overand@...> wrote:
> > That is actually not the proper behavior of these inputs. The CV inputs are > the equivalent of turning the 'up, down, up/down' pots themselves. there's > a probability (paul?) that the LFO going into negative would have a negative > (heh) effect, that is, the CV inputs may only be designed to accept positive > control voltages, and the LFO provides a +-5volt peak to peak. > > I do **not** mean to be insulting here, but perhaps reading a primer on how > modular synths work would help. CV inputs for most modules work more or > less the same as these. The unfortunate thing is that this is not a really > easy or intuitive module with which to learn the ins, outs, and 'feel' of > using CV control instead of a knob. > > Nothing is a substitute for hands-on expereience, but if you have a limited > array of modules in your rig, hands-on learning of the 'basics' (again, no > insult intended) might be difficult, so reading up would probably be > helpful. > > It's possible that I have totally misunderstoor, and if so, I apologize, but > again, I mean no insult to you. We all start somewhere, and modulars, while > pretty damned intuitive with experience, are pretty arcane beasts and can be > very intimidating and confusing. Occasionally the specific details of hte > operation of one of my modules still conufses me, specificlaly my MOTM 190 > uVCA, which is a very important and widely used module! > > Best wishes, good luck and happy tweaking (and patching)! > > -Geoff > > ithaib wrote: > > Got it, thanks.... > I fed an LFO into the inputs and it turns them on and off. Maybe when I did > it before the LFO was going too fast? Maybe I was dreaming.... > > Thanks!! > > Ithai. > > > --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@> <pugix@> wrote: > > > > Yes. It is almost certain that if the UP, DOWN, and UP/DOWN pots work as > expected, the corresponding VC inputs also work. They go right to the pots. > > > Remember, too, that the VC inputs are mainly useful with very *slowly > changing* control voltages. The CV going in would normally be changing at a > slower rate than the slew being imparted. A very slow LFO, EG, or a sample > & hold being clocked at a slow rate would be the type of CV to use. A fast > CV here might not have much of an effect. > > -Richard Brewster > > http://www.pugix.com > > mate_stubb wrote: > > > > Besides the possibility that it has an assembly error and does not > work, could it accidentally be in bypass mode? Bypass switch mounted > upside down? Is the bypass LED lit? > > Moe > > --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "ithaib" <ithaib@> wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > I'm experimenting with my new VC LAG, and the only thing I don't > > > > > understand is how to use > > > > the 3 Up/Down/Up & Down Inputs. They accept Control Voltages, right? > > > > > Why do they not do > > > > anything? What am I not doing right? > > Thanks for any help... > > Ithai. >
2006-02-25 by Geoff
That is actually not the proper behavior of these inputs. The CV inputs are the equivalent of turning the 'up, down, up/down' pots themselves. there's a probability (paul?) that the LFO going into negative would have a negative (heh) effect, that is, the CV inputs may only be designed to accept positive control voltages, and the LFO provides a +-5volt peak to peak. I do *not* mean to be insulting here, but perhaps reading a primer on how modular synths work would help. CV inputs for most modules work more or less the same as these. The unfortunate thing is that this is not a really easy or intuitive module with which to learn the ins, outs, and 'feel' of using CV control instead of a knob. Nothing is a substitute for hands-on expereience, but if you have a limited array of modules in your rig, hands-on learning of the 'basics' (again, no insult intended) might be difficult, so reading up would probably be helpful. It's possible that I have totally misunderstoor, and if so, I apologize, but again, I mean no insult to you. We all start somewhere, and modulars, while pretty damned intuitive with experience, are pretty arcane beasts and can be very intimidating and confusing. Occasionally the specific details of hte operation of one of my modules still conufses me, specificlaly my MOTM 190 uVCA, which is a very important and widely used module! Best wishes, good luck and happy tweaking (and patching)! -Geoff ithaib wrote:
>Got it, thanks.... >I fed an LFO into the inputs and it turns them on and off. Maybe when I did it before the >LFO was going too fast? Maybe I was dreaming.... > >Thanks!! > >Ithai. > > >--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@...> wrote: > > >>Yes. It is almost certain that if the UP, DOWN, and UP/DOWN pots work >>as expected, the corresponding VC inputs also work. They go right to >>the pots. >> >>Remember, too, that the VC inputs are mainly useful with very *slowly >>changing* control voltages. The CV going in would normally be changing >>at a slower rate than the slew being imparted. A very slow LFO, EG, or >>a sample & hold being clocked at a slow rate would be the type of CV to >>use. A fast CV here might not have much of an effect. >> >>-Richard Brewster >> >>http://www.pugix.com >> >>mate_stubb wrote: >> >> >> >>>Besides the possibility that it has an assembly error and does not >>>work, could it accidentally be in bypass mode? Bypass switch mounted >>>upside down? Is the bypass LED lit? >>> >>>Moe >>> >>>--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "ithaib" <ithaib@> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi everyone, >>>> >>>>I'm experimenting with my new VC LAG, and the only thing I don't >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>understand is how to use >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>the 3 Up/Down/Up & Down Inputs. They accept Control Voltages, right? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Why do they not do >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>anything? What am I not doing right? >>>> >>>>Thanks for any help... >>>> >>>>Ithai. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2006-02-25 by Geoff
That is actually not the proper behavior of these inputs. The CV inputs are the equivalent of turning the 'up, down, up/down' pots themselves. there's a probability (paul?) that the LFO going into negative would have a negative (heh) effect, that is, the CV inputs may only be designed to accept positive control voltages, and the LFO provides a +-5volt peak to peak. I do *not* mean to be insulting here, but perhaps reading a primer on how modular synths work would help. CV inputs for most modules work more or less the same as these. The unfortunate thing is that this is not a really easy or intuitive module with which to learn the ins, outs, and 'feel' of using CV control instead of a knob. Nothing is a substitute for hands-on expereience, but if you have a limited array of modules in your rig, hands-on learning of the 'basics' (again, no insult intended) might be difficult, so reading up would probably be helpful. It's possible that I have totally misunderstoor, and if so, I apologize, but again, I mean no insult to you. We all start somewhere, and modulars, while pretty damned intuitive with experience, are pretty arcane beasts and can be very intimidating and confusing. Occasionally the specific details of hte operation of one of my modules still conufses me, specificlaly my MOTM 190 uVCA, which is a very important and widely used module! Best wishes, good luck and happy tweaking (and patching)! -Geoff ithaib wrote:
> Got it, thanks.... > I fed an LFO into the inputs and it turns them on and off. Maybe when > I did it before the LFO was going too fast? Maybe I was dreaming.... > > Thanks!! > > Ithai. > > > --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@...> wrote: > > >> Yes. It is almost certain that if the UP, DOWN, and UP/DOWN pots >> work as expected, the corresponding VC inputs also work. They go >> right to the pots. >> >> Remember, too, that the VC inputs are mainly useful with very *slowly >> changing* control voltages. The CV going in would normally be >> changing at a slower rate than the slew being imparted. A very slow >> LFO, EG, or a sample & hold being clocked at a slow rate would be the >> type of CV to use. A fast CV here might not have much of an effect. >> >> -Richard Brewster >> >> http://www.pugix.com >> >> mate_stubb wrote: >> >> >> >>> Besides the possibility that it has an assembly error and does not >>> work, could it accidentally be in bypass mode? Bypass switch mounted >>> upside down? Is the bypass LED lit? >>> >>> Moe >>> >>> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "ithaib" <ithaib@> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I'm experimenting with my new VC LAG, and the only thing I don't >>>> >>>> >>> >>> understand is how to use >>> >>> >>> >>>> the 3 Up/Down/Up & Down Inputs. They accept Control Voltages, right? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Why do they not do >>> >>> >>> >>>> anything? What am I not doing right? >>>> >>>> Thanks for any help... >>>> >>>> Ithai. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>