MOTM

On the MOTM-650, there are INC/DEC pushbuttons on the panel, side-by-side.

Should it be 

INC   DEC

or

DEC   INC

Paul S.

unless you are designing a product exclusively for the German market, 
it should be

INC DEC

>On the MOTM-650, there are INC/DEC pushbuttons on the panel, side-by-side.
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Look at your computer monitor.  Most have a set of buttons.  There is a 
menu selector button and up/down buttons for contrast, etc.  On mine the 
down button is to the left of the up button, and the markings are:

v  ^

Imagine a horizontal rocker switch.  Likewise DEC<--->INC.

-Richard Brewster

Paul Schreiber wrote:

>On the MOTM-650, there are INC/DEC pushbuttons on the panel, side-by-side.
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DEC INC as well.

Paul Schreiber wrote:

>On the MOTM-650, there are INC/DEC pushbuttons on the panel, side-by-side.
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>DEC   INC
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> unless you are designing a product exclusively for the German market,
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> INC DEC

I'll disagree with that very, very strongly since it's inconsistent with 
an overwhelming majority of user interfaces.

I live in the US, FWIW. Every device I own, and I mean *EVERY* device I 
own from portable CD players, my car stereo, bedroom receiver's volume, 
living room satellite receiver, cordless telephone, my first generation 
iPod (advance track on the right, decrement track on the left), living 
room DVD player, my Nord Modular, Roland JP-8000, Access Virus, Oberheim 
Matrix 12, Yamaha 02r mixer, Yamaha RY-30 drum machine, Roland TD-10S drum 
brain, the Kenton Pro 2000, the Dell 2405FPW LCD monitor, and Encore 
Expressionist.

In fact, I can't even find a single device anywhere that's INC/DEC. Doing 
it in an INC/DEC fashion would make the MOTM-650 a uniquely bad UI.

-->Neil

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Neil Bradley            "If you owe the bank $100, it's your problem. If you
Synthcom Systems, Inc.   owe them $100mil, it's the bank's problem." - JP Getty

Wow.  I would have never thought to look at my digital equipment - all
three pieces of it.  You know Paul, the only way I can relate to this
is mechanically:

"Righty tight-y - lefty loose-y"

Chub - *not* the last word, ever...


--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@a...> wrote:
> On the MOTM-650, there are INC/DEC pushbuttons on the panel,
side-by-side.

> 
> Should it be 
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> INC   DEC
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> or
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> DEC   INC
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> Paul S.

DEC on the left, INC on the right, same as every other piece of gear I have.

At 9:19 PM -0500 2005/09/10, Paul Schreiber wrote:

>On the MOTM-650, there are INC/DEC pushbuttons on the panel, side-by-side.
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>Should it be
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>INC   DEC
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>or
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>DEC   INC
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>Paul S.

It should be DEC/INC, no question.

Moe

well i still think inc/dec makes more sense, and charles (privately) 
agrees with me.

that's presumably because i'm an englishman with dodgy handedness, 
but i don't know what charles's excuse is.

>It should be DEC/INC, no question.
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>Moe
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Beating a dead horse, I too say DEC / INC is the only way to go. -- skw

the motm logic on the knobs is left (counterclockwise) for negative and 
right for positive, so keep the logic and use

DEC INC


g

rick



Am 11.09.2005 um 04:19 schrieb Paul Schreiber:

> On the MOTM-650, there are INC/DEC pushbuttons on the panel, 
> side-by-side.
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> Should it be
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> INC   DEC
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> or
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> DEC   INC
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> Paul S.
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What really should happen is a revision of the MOTM-650, the MOTM-653,
"Chaos Edition"

Inc and Dec will both simply be triggers that do a random 'brownian
motion' either inc or dec.
Also, lots of really noisy components should be installed so the thing
is really unstable and doesn't
provide a good solid voltage, even better for adding chaos.  I mean, we
all like instability, right?

Actually, now that I think about it, you could just call it the MOTM-650
Millenium Edition...

::patiently waits for Microsoft's black helicopters to land on his roof
and take him away::

-Geoff

Greg Amann wrote:

> Personally I think it should be INC / INC.  We must go on!  We must
> move forward!  Set the controls for the heart of the Sun!
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> PLL, BFG
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> Scott K Warren wrote:
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>> Beating a dead horse, I too say DEC / INC is the only way to go. -- skw
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+1 vote for -/+ or arrows.

Using the strings INC and DEC is just bad form. Does it mean incorporate & 
december? include & decimate?

I was on vacation, I missed the fun :)

--mikes