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RE: [motm] Interseting controller/digital synth

2005-08-19 by rdrake

anybody remember Laurie Spiegel's "Music Mouse" program?

http://retiary.org/ls/index.html

bbob


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>Message: 20
> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:25:46 -0700
> From: Greg Wuller <ngwese@...>
>Subject: Re: Interseting controller/digital synth
>
>
>On Aug 18, 2005, at 7:05 PM, Paul Schreiber wrote:
>
>>
>http://www.global.yamaha.com/design/tenori-on/index
>.html
>>
>> Hard to say if it's 'real' or not.
>>
>
>I actually had the opportunity to play with one of
>these two weeks
>ago in the Emerging Technologies portion of the
>SIGGRAPH convention
>here in Los Angeles. The designer (Toshio Iwai) had
>four of what I'd
>call a "late prototype". From the controller
>perspective it was a
>really fun little 4 track step sequencer with both
>typical and
>unusual modes. I don't know if the little grills
>actually were
>intended to contain speakers or not as all the
>units had headphones.
>
>The buttons on the frame are for:
> (1) top = reset/clear the current track
> (4) right = track selection
> (2) bottom = volume
> (4) left = pattern mode for the current track
>
>The dial controlled the timbre used for the
>currently selected track.
>I'm trying to remember all the details about the
>different pattern
>modes.... If memory serves
>
>Mode 1: typical 16 step pattern sequencer,
>horizontal is time,
>vertical is pitch
>
>Mode 2: like mode 1 but in addition it did what
>they were calling
>"real time recording", instead of requiring you to
>press an hold a
>button momentarily in order to get a note to repeat
>all you had to do
>was trip the switch. By dragging your finger across
>the grid you
>could layer "waves" of notes on top of each other
>(the original
>timing was maintained).
>
>Mode 3: ??
>
>Mode 4: best described as ping-pong. Press a button
>to get note
>repeating, then press another. The time between
>notes is based on the
>distance between each point. Press more buttons to
>add additional
>notes to the sequence, when it got to the last note
>it repeated.
>
>The sound was basic but varied enough that the
>device was fun to play
>with. No MIDI on the prototypes as far as I could
>tell... it also
>wasn't clear if it would become an actual product
>some time in the
>future.
>
>-greg
>
>
>___________________________________________________
>____
>Greg Wuller
>greg@...
>___________________________________________________

Re: Interseting controller/digital synth

2005-08-19 by crmatt99

Still my favorite controller (when my ship comes in) is the Continuum by haken audio
check out the video demos, this would be one powerful midi controller. They demo it with
a kyma but this would be crazy with a modular.

http://www.hakenaudio.com/Continuum/


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--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "rdrake" <rdrake@d...> wrote:
> anybody remember Laurie Spiegel's "Music Mouse" program?
>
> http://retiary.org/ls/index.html
>
> bbob
>
>
> >Message: 20
> > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:25:46 -0700
> > From: Greg Wuller <ngwese@y...>
> >Subject: Re: Interseting controller/digital synth
> >
> >
> >On Aug 18, 2005, at 7:05 PM, Paul Schreiber wrote:
> >
> >>
> >http://www.global.yamaha.com/design/tenori-on/index
> >.html
> >>
> >> Hard to say if it's 'real' or not.
> >>
> >
> >I actually had the opportunity to play with one of
> >these two weeks
> >ago in the Emerging Technologies portion of the
> >SIGGRAPH convention
> >here in Los Angeles. The designer (Toshio Iwai) had
> >four of what I'd
> >call a "late prototype". From the controller
> >perspective it was a
> >really fun little 4 track step sequencer with both
> >typical and
> >unusual modes. I don't know if the little grills
> >actually were
> >intended to contain speakers or not as all the
> >units had headphones.
> >
> >The buttons on the frame are for:
> > (1) top = reset/clear the current track
> > (4) right = track selection
> > (2) bottom = volume
> > (4) left = pattern mode for the current track
> >
> >The dial controlled the timbre used for the
> >currently selected track.
> >I'm trying to remember all the details about the
> >different pattern
> >modes.... If memory serves
> >
> >Mode 1: typical 16 step pattern sequencer,
> >horizontal is time,
> >vertical is pitch
> >
> >Mode 2: like mode 1 but in addition it did what
> >they were calling
> >"real time recording", instead of requiring you to
> >press an hold a
> >button momentarily in order to get a note to repeat
> >all you had to do
> >was trip the switch. By dragging your finger across
> >the grid you
> >could layer "waves" of notes on top of each other
> >(the original
> >timing was maintained).
> >
> >Mode 3: ??
> >
> >Mode 4: best described as ping-pong. Press a button
> >to get note
> >repeating, then press another. The time between
> >notes is based on the
> >distance between each point. Press more buttons to
> >add additional
> >notes to the sequence, when it got to the last note
> >it repeated.
> >
> >The sound was basic but varied enough that the
> >device was fun to play
> >with. No MIDI on the prototypes as far as I could
> >tell... it also
> >wasn't clear if it would become an actual product
> >some time in the
> >future.
> >
> >-greg
> >
> >
> >___________________________________________________
> >____
> >Greg Wuller
> >greg@w...
> >___________________________________________________

Re: [motm] Re: Interseting controller/digital synth

2005-08-19 by Mike Estee

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, crmatt99 wrote:

> Still my favorite controller (when my ship comes in) is the Continuum by haken audio
> check out the video demos, this would be one powerful midi controller. They demo it with
> a kyma but this would be crazy with a modular.
>
> http://www.hakenaudio.com/Continuum/

Wow. I want one, but damn that's a bit on the spendy side. Anyone know
what the tracking tech is? 10 tracking points at once...

--mikes

Re: [motm] Re: Interseting controller/digital synth

2005-08-20 by Greg Wuller


On Aug 19, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Mike Estee wrote:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, crmatt99 wrote:

> Still my favorite controller (when my ship comes in) is the Continuum by haken audio
> check out the video demos, this would be one powerful midi controller. They demo it with
> a kyma but this would be crazy with a modular.
>
> http://www.hakenaudio.com/Continuum/

Wow. I want one, but damn that's a bit on the spendy side. Anyone know
what the tracking tech is? 10 tracking points at once...

...funny someone should mention the Continuum. Over the last two years I've been slowly ordering and building a MOTM system. During wait for analog modular nirvana I ended up buying both Kyma system and a Continuum to quench my thirst! As good as the Kyma/Continuum combo is (and it is *really* good) a MOTM/Kyma/Continuum system will hopefully be mind blowing :) ...only thing I need now is a case, a little more quality time driving my soldering iron, and one of those mythical MOTM-650s ;)

There is some decent information on the Continuum site about how the finger tracking actually works (click the "Mechanical Design" link).

...now if only there was an AH type gathering in So. California coming up that I could drag the fingerboard to...

-greg


_______________________________________________________

Greg Wuller greg@...

_______________________________________________________




Re: Interseting controller/digital synth

2005-08-20 by crmatt99

I stumbled across this some time ago. I was searching to see if anyone was making a
controller analog or midi like the buchla touchplate controllers. I will probably never be
able to throw down that much for a continuum.

What I am after is some alternate means of controlling my growing MOTM, I play guitar
mainly and have very little experience with keyboards in the formal sense. Right now I
don't a midi/cv so I am just tweaking knobs and recording to pro tools.

If anyone can point me to a DIY touchplate controller like Buchla's or of someone who
makes such a thing that would be great.

p.s. Knob tweaking is an excelent interface!



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> ...funny someone should mention the Continuum. Over the last two
> years I've been slowly ordering and building a MOTM system. During
> wait for analog modular nirvana I ended up buying both Kyma system
> and a Continuum to quench my thirst! As good as the Kyma/Continuum
> combo is (and it is *really* good) a MOTM/Kyma/Continuum system will
> hopefully be mind blowing :) ...only thing I need now is a case, a
> little more quality time driving my soldering iron, and one of those
> mythical MOTM-650s ;)
>
> There is some decent information on the Continuum site about how the
> finger tracking actually works (click the "Mechanical Design" link).
>
> ...now if only there was an AH type gathering in So. California
> coming up that I could drag the fingerboard to...
>
> -greg
>
> _______________________________________________________
> Greg Wuller greg@w...
> _______________________________________________________

RE: [motm] Re: Interseting controller...

2005-08-20 by Frank Vanaman

Hi all--

-----Original Message-----
> From: crmatt99
>
> If anyone can point me to a DIY touchplate controller like Buchla's or of
someone who
> makes such a thing that would be great.

I'd also be interested in a touchplate controller - even something as simple
as the 11 'note' unit that came with the Buchla-CBS system (it's actually
divided, I think, in two sections, one with three plates and another with 8)
would be cool with me.

If anyone has the book on Hugh LeCaine ("Sackbut Blues"), there's an
interesting PC board touch controller shown in one of the illustrations, but
no description of the circuitry involved.

Frank

RE: [motm] Re: Interseting controller/digital synth

2005-08-20 by John Loffink

The Serge TKB offers 16 touchplates and a 4x16 sequencer. It is a great
controller. Cost new is $1850 plus $400 for the rack mount chassis.
There's one on ebay right now.

There are rumors of an upgraded Buchla Thunder II as a touch plate
controller for the 200e. This seems likely to me, but I expect it to be
pricey.

Doepfer has a 25 key touch controller in the works.

DIY is the final option. The Synth DIY list is a great resource. Also
there was a Japanese web site that collected various touch plate designs.

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>
> I stumbled across this some time ago. I was searching to see if anyone was
> making a
> controller analog or midi like the buchla touchplate controllers. I will
> probably never be
> able to throw down that much for a continuum.
>
> What I am after is some alternate means of controlling my growing MOTM, I
> play guitar
> mainly and have very little experience with keyboards in the formal sense.
> Right now I
> don't a midi/cv so I am just tweaking knobs and recording to pro tools.
>
> If anyone can point me to a DIY touchplate controller like Buchla's or of
> someone who
> makes such a thing that would be great.
>
> p.s. Knob tweaking is an excelent interface!
>
>

Re: Interseting controller/digital synth

2005-08-20 by charlesosthelder

Paia has a schematic for a simple touchplate controller. It is easy to
add additional touchplates and output to the basic circuit. The design
was for the programmable drum.

Stooge Larry has an article for a simple ribbon controller that I've
been using for almost three years. It's available on his website at
www.wiseguysynth.com, under the "Nonsense and Misc." section. It would
work very well with the Paia ribbon cv circuit. The materials are
quite easy to obtain, too.

Chub - Mr. Nonsense and Misc.

Re: Interseting controller/digital synth

2005-08-20 by mate_stubb

Rumor has it that Peter Grenader is going to do a touchplate thingie also.

Moe

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--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "John Loffink" <jloffink@a...> wrote:
> The Serge TKB offers 16 touchplates and a 4x16 sequencer. It is a great
> controller. Cost new is $1850 plus $400 for the rack mount chassis.
> There's one on ebay right now.
>
> There are rumors of an upgraded Buchla Thunder II as a touch plate
> controller for the 200e. This seems likely to me, but I expect it to be
> pricey.
>
> Doepfer has a 25 key touch controller in the works.
>
> DIY is the final option. The Synth DIY list is a great resource. Also
> there was a Japanese web site that collected various touch plate
designs.
>
> John Loffink
> The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
> http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
> The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
> http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >
> > I stumbled across this some time ago. I was searching to see if
anyone was
> > making a
> > controller analog or midi like the buchla touchplate controllers.
I will
> > probably never be
> > able to throw down that much for a continuum.
> >
> > What I am after is some alternate means of controlling my growing
MOTM, I
> > play guitar
> > mainly and have very little experience with keyboards in the
formal sense.
> > Right now I
> > don't a midi/cv so I am just tweaking knobs and recording to pro
tools.
> >
> > If anyone can point me to a DIY touchplate controller like
Buchla's or of
> > someone who
> > makes such a thing that would be great.
> >
> > p.s. Knob tweaking is an excelent interface!
> >
> >