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Hard disk/CD recorder in a box. Suggestions?

Hard disk/CD recorder in a box. Suggestions?

2005-07-17 by Richard Brewster

I need some advice. I want to replace my Digi Design Digi001/Pro Tools
5.1 recorder. I have two problems with it. The principal one is that
it's in noisy Windows 98 PC that takes up a lot of space. The other is
that Pro Tools is more than I need. I am using 10% of what Pro Tools
can do, if that. All I want is to record my synth as simply as possible
in a digital format. I don't care about effects, drums, etc. My
requirements are:

1. 16-bit recording to a portable WAV format.
2. MP3 converter (It was an add-on for Pro Tools).
3. Internal CDRW drive.
4. Internal hard disk - possibly optional
5. A single unit, small and quiet -- no computer in the studio
6. Input padding to accept modular signal levels. I don't want to build
an output module to convert to line levels.
7. Max price tops at about $1000

I don't really need the MP3 converter, if I can find some software that
will convert my recordings after I transfer them to a PC via the CD.
The following products support some of what I want.

Fostex VF160EX 16-Track
Zoom MRS802BCD MultiTrak Recording Studio with CDR/RW
Boss BR1180CD Digital Recording Studio with Internal CD Drive
others in this category

But maybe this is not even the right product category. Can you help?

Thanks,

-Richard Brewster

P.S. I plan to sell my Digi001 and Pro Tools 5.1. It needs a computer
with a PCI slot. The Windows 98 software and several decent books for
Pro Tools are included. Contact me if interested.

RE: [motm] Hard disk/CD recorder in a box. Suggestions?

2005-07-17 by J. Larry Hendry

Richard, I too like using a stand along hard disk recorder. I have 3 of
the old 8 track fostex rack mount units and love them. They are easy to
use. Hard drives in carries to be swapped out. However, I will suggest
(that's a low tone, friendly suggestion) that you the pad issue internally
may not be as valuable as you think. I find it difficult not to put some
kind of compression /limiting on the input, which of course gives you good
level control. These things are pretty unforgiving of any overdrive. :-)
Sorry I have no specific information to offer you on the new ones. But, I
think you will like the reduced feature set of these. I hate having
equipment that is 10-20 times more capable than needed if it also make the
learning curve longer. And, I hate having a computer running in the studio
during the recording process. :-)
Larry H


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Subject: [motm] Hard disk/CD recorder in a box. Suggestions?


I need some advice. I want to replace my Digi Design Digi001/Pro Tools
5.1 recorder. I have two problems with it. The principal one is that
it's in noisy Windows 98 PC that takes up a lot of space. The other is
that Pro Tools is more than I need. I am using 10% of what Pro Tools
can do, if that. All I want is to record my synth as simply as possible
in a digital format. I don't care about effects, drums, etc. My
requirements are:

1. 16-bit recording to a portable WAV format.
2. MP3 converter (It was an add-on for Pro Tools).
3. Internal CDRW drive.
4. Internal hard disk - possibly optional
5. A single unit, small and quiet -- no computer in the studio
6. Input padding to accept modular signal levels. I don't want to build
an output module to convert to line levels.
7. Max price tops at about $1000

I don't really need the MP3 converter, if I can find some software that
will convert my recordings after I transfer them to a PC via the CD.
The following products support some of what I want.

Fostex VF160EX 16-Track
Zoom MRS802BCD MultiTrak Recording Studio with CDR/RW
Boss BR1180CD Digital Recording Studio with Internal CD Drive
others in this category

But maybe this is not even the right product category. Can you help?

Thanks,

-Richard Brewster

P.S. I plan to sell my Digi001 and Pro Tools 5.1. It needs a computer
with a PCI slot. The Windows 98 software and several decent books for
Pro Tools are included. Contact me if interested.








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Re: [motm] Hard disk/CD recorder in a box. Suggestions?

2005-07-18 by Mike Estee

Well, if it wheren't for the pricetag I would say that a SoundDevices 722
is the closest match. I have one and it's perfect for what you describe.
Doesn't have a CDRW, but it mounts as a hard drive for copying.

Unfortunately non-BS HD recorders don't come in under 1k. If the sound
from the computer is your primary concern (and not portability) consider
looking into the growing collection of fanless computers available on the
market these days. Combine with a quality interface and you'll probably
still tip the scales above 1k, but just barely.

In the BS department you'll find that MD-HD with a good line converter in
front of it is your best performance/buck option, at least until you try
to get data off the device. After that an EdirolR1/R4 is probably okay,
though I've never tried one:
http://www.edirol.com/products/audio.html

--mikes


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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Richard Brewster wrote:
> I need some advice. I want to replace my Digi Design Digi001/Pro Tools
> 5.1 recorder. I have two problems with it. The principal one is that
> it's in noisy Windows 98 PC that takes up a lot of space. The other is
> that Pro Tools is more than I need. I am using 10% of what Pro Tools
> can do, if that. All I want is to record my synth as simply as possible
> in a digital format. I don't care about effects, drums, etc. My
> requirements are:
>
> 1. 16-bit recording to a portable WAV format.
> 2. MP3 converter (It was an add-on for Pro Tools).
> 3. Internal CDRW drive.
> 4. Internal hard disk - possibly optional
> 5. A single unit, small and quiet -- no computer in the studio
> 6. Input padding to accept modular signal levels. I don't want to build
> an output module to convert to line levels.
> 7. Max price tops at about $1000
>
> I don't really need the MP3 converter, if I can find some software that
> will convert my recordings after I transfer them to a PC via the CD.
> The following products support some of what I want.
>
> Fostex VF160EX 16-Track
> Zoom MRS802BCD MultiTrak Recording Studio with CDR/RW
> Boss BR1180CD Digital Recording Studio with Internal CD Drive
> others in this category
>
> But maybe this is not even the right product category. Can you help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Richard Brewster
>
> P.S. I plan to sell my Digi001 and Pro Tools 5.1. It needs a computer
> with a PCI slot. The Windows 98 software and several decent books for
> Pro Tools are included. Contact me if interested.
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [motm] Re: Hard disk/CD recorder in a box. Suggestions?

2005-07-19 by Richard Brewster

Thanks for all the suggestions. I am looking at a completely different
category of recorder, these Marantz compact flash card recorders that I
never heard of before:

http://martelelectronics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=pmd671&Category_Code=MDVR

I like the idea of no moving parts. There is a wide selection of
sampling rates and the ability to record MP3 directly. Burning CDs can
be done on the PC after transferring the MP2 or WAV files.

-Richard Brewster

ivancu@... wrote:

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>As a two-track device it is hard to beat an Alesis Masterlink. Great
>box.
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>Ivan
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Re: Hard disk/CD recorder in a box. Suggestions?

2005-07-20 by coyoteous

I almost recommeneded that one one but you had originally spec'd a hardrive.

Also check out the little Edirol R-1:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--EDIR1

and the Roland CD-2:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLCD2.

(no, I don't work for zzounds, they just had the first short URLs I came to :-)

Barry

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--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@e...> wrote:
> Thanks for all the suggestions. I am looking at a completely different
> category of recorder, these Marantz compact flash card recorders that I
> never heard of before:
>
> http://martelelectronics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&
Product_Code=pmd671&Category_Code=MDVR
>
> I like the idea of no moving parts. There is a wide selection of
> sampling rates and the ability to record MP3 directly. Burning CDs can
> be done on the PC after transferring the MP2 or WAV files.
>
> -Richard Brewster
>
> ivancu@a... wrote:
>
> >As a two-track device it is hard to beat an Alesis Masterlink. Great
> >box.
> >
> >Ivan
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: Hard disk/CD recorder in a box. Suggestions?

2005-07-20 by coyoteous

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--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "coyoteous" <antithesist@m...> wrote:
> I almost recommeneded that one one but you had originally spec'd a
hardrive.
>
> Also check out the little Edirol R-1:
>
> http://www.zzounds.com/item--EDIR1
>
> and the Roland CD-2:
>
> http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLCD2.
>
> (no, I don't work for zzounds, they just had the first short URLs I came to :-)
>
> Barry
>
> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@e...> wrote:
> > Thanks for all the suggestions. I am looking at a completely different
> > category of recorder, these Marantz compact flash card recorders that I
> > never heard of before:
> >
> > http://martelelectronics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&
> Product_Code=pmd671&Category_Code=MDVR
> >
> > I like the idea of no moving parts. There is a wide selection of
> > sampling rates and the ability to record MP3 directly. Burning CDs can
> > be done on the PC after transferring the MP2 or WAV files.
> >
> > -Richard Brewster
> >
> > ivancu@a... wrote:
> >
> > >As a two-track device it is hard to beat an Alesis Masterlink. Great
> > >box.
> > >
> > >Ivan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >