Yahoo Groups archive

MOTM

Index last updated: 2026-04-05 20:20 UTC

Thread

Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo

Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo

2005-05-18 by paulhaneberg

Add me to the list of one who would pay $100+ for such a book.
But, not just any book.  I'd like to see patching diagrams.  But I'd 
also like to have detailed explanations as to what each module is 
contributing to the sound and what the thought process was in deciding 
to do the patch the way it was done.  And I'd like to see it cover a 
large range of instruments.

Ken Elhart rules!!!

For those looking for other sources, there was a long series of 
articles that ran in Sound on Sound magazine on this topic.  I think 
most of them can be accessed online.  I think the column may have been 
entitled Synthesizer Secrets or something of the sort.

RE: [motm] Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo

2005-05-18 by J. Larry Hendry

Right.  I've read some other books.  I have the A. Strange book (I have not
made it all the way through."  But, I think there is room for something with
a greater level of detail that makes the difference between an average
acoustic patch and a really great one (like the ones we hear from Ken).

I often wonder how well patching and emulation would have evolved by now if
digital sampling had not pushed the manufacturers in a different direction.

Larry
Show quoted textHide quoted text
-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
paulhaneberg
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:12 AM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo


Add me to the list of one who would pay $100+ for such a book.
But, not just any book.  I'd like to see patching diagrams.  But I'd
also like to have detailed explanations as to what each module is
contributing to the sound and what the thought process was in deciding
to do the patch the way it was done.  And I'd like to see it cover a
large range of instruments.

Ken Elhart rules!!!

For those looking for other sources, there was a long series of
articles that ran in Sound on Sound magazine on this topic.  I think
most of them can be accessed online.  I think the column may have been
entitled Synthesizer Secrets or something of the sort.







Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo

2005-05-18 by Dino Leone

--- paulhaneberg <phaneber@...> wrote:
> Ken Elhart rules!!!
> 
> For those looking for other sources, there was a
> long series of 
> articles that ran in Sound on Sound magazine on this
> topic.  I think 
> most of them can be accessed online.  I think the
> column may have been 
> entitled Synthesizer Secrets or something of the
> sort.

Yep! Synth Secrets from Sound on Sound. Those articles
are actually very good! I learned a lot from those, as
the author (Gordon Reid) uses modular patches to
illustrate the synthesis development of a sound that
is to be achieved.
However, compared to Ken Elhardt's stuff, it's like
kindergarten... I apologize for saying it so bluntly,
but while the sound on sound articles do give you an
excellent start, they just fall short when it comes to
modeling *realistic* acoustic instruments!

Needless to say I would be very much interested in
such a book! Wondering if we could convince Ken
Elhardt???   Ken... pleeaase!! ;-)

Best,

Dino





__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo

2005-05-18 by PQ

I've just been reading thru them. Here's a link 
http://users.telenet.be/tenor/ They're really good. It's a lot of 
reading. Now if I can just get some modules to play with  :-)
PQ

Yep! Synth Secrets from Sound on Sound. Those articles
are actually very good! I learned a lot from those, as
the author (Gordon Reid) uses modular patches to
illustrate the synthesis development of a sound that
is to be achieved.
However, compared to Ken Elhardt's stuff, it's like
kindergarten... I apologize for saying it so bluntly,
but while the sound on sound articles do give you an
excellent start, they just fall short when it comes to
modeling *realistic* acoustic instruments!

Needless to say I would be very much interested in
such a book! Wondering if we could convince Ken
Elhardt???   Ken... pleeaase!! ;-)

Best,

Dino

Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo

2005-05-19 by marcin_grzelak

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, PQ <fiveqs@v...> wrote:
> I've just been reading thru them. Here's a link 
> http://users.telenet.be/tenor/ They're really good. It's a lot of 
> reading. Now if I can just get some modules to play with  :-)
> PQ
> 
> Yep! Synth Secrets from Sound on Sound. Those articles
> are actually very good! I learned a lot from those, as
> the author (Gordon Reid) uses modular patches to
> illustrate the synthesis development of a sound that
> is to be achieved.
> However, compared to Ken Elhardt's stuff, it's like
> kindergarten... I apologize for saying it so bluntly,
> but while the sound on sound articles do give you an
> excellent start, they just fall short when it comes to
> modeling *realistic* acoustic instruments!
> 
> Needless to say I would be very much interested in
> such a book! Wondering if we could convince Ken
> Elhardt???   Ken... pleeaase!! ;-)
> 
> Best,
> 
> Dino

Other literature sources:

"The complete guide to synthesizers" by Devarahi (1982 Prentice-Hall)
"Synthesizer" - Florian Anwender (germ.)
"Modulsynthesizere" - Keld N.Sorensen (danish)
"Using the Digisound 80 Modular Synthesizer"
www.digisound80.co.uk/digisound/other_documents/documents.htm
"The "Gold Book" - for Serge
http://home.att.net/~djaux/SMMS.htm
"The Art of Analog Modular Synthesis by Voltage Control" by André 
C.Stordeur (for Serge )
www.angelfire.com/music2/theanalogcottage/adsnews.htm

Re: [motm] Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo

2005-05-20 by synth1@airmail.net

> "The complete guide to synthesizers" by Devarahi (1982 Prentice-Hall)

This book is worth over $250 :)

Reason: only 500 were made, then all but a few of those destroyed because
the author/publisher did not get permission for the photographs. The
rarest synth book.

Paul S.

RE: [motm] Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo

2005-05-20 by John Loffink

I've seen the Devarahi book go for $60-80.  There's one at an ebay store now
for $59.95.  It has the widest selection of vintage photos I've seen,
including rarities like the SMS Modular System and the Wavemaker 6.  FWIW
the Wavemaker 6 photo is a stock publicity shot that also appeared in
Polyphony.

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> -----Original Message-----
> From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> 
> > "The complete guide to synthesizers" by Devarahi (1982 Prentice-Hall)
> 
> This book is worth over $250 :)
> 
> Reason: only 500 were made, then all but a few of those destroyed because
> the author/publisher did not get permission for the photographs. The
> rarest synth book.
> 
> Paul S.
> 
>

Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo

2005-05-20 by coyoteous

Several here for considerably less than $250:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0131606301

and here: search ISBN 0131606301

http://www.alibris.com

Barry

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, synth1@a... wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > "The complete guide to synthesizers" by Devarahi (1982 Prentice-Hall)
> 
> This book is worth over $250 :)
> 
> Reason: only 500 were made, then all but a few of those destroyed because
> the author/publisher did not get permission for the photographs. The
> rarest synth book.
> 
> Paul S.

Devarahi (was: RE: [motm] Re: "Wooden Recorder" 440 demo)

2005-05-20 by Adam Schabtach

Boy, this takes me back. I knew Devarahi when he was writing that book (and
yes, I have a copy on my shelf). He wrote it originally as a textbook for
the class he taught at the local community college in Eugene, OR. I was in
high school at the time and hence couldn't take the class, but my cousin
took it and I managed to drop in occasionally. The original title was "The
Secret Guide to Synthesizers" and its first printing was velo-bound
photocopies for the class. He was a great teacher--one of those rare
individuals driven from his heart to convey knowledge and enthusiasm to
others. 

Eventually I visited his home studio a few times. He had a bunch of
now-vintage stuff, including two 2600s and an ARP Sequencer, a Moog vocoder,
an EML Poly Box (I think that's what it was called--funny thing with a
one-octave keyboard in a bright orange box, which somehow generated a
polyphonic signal from an input), a Roland tape delay of some sort, a big
Emu modular tucked away in the basement ("I don't use it much these days"),
a TASCAM eight-channel reel-to-reel deck, a rather new TR-808, and a brand
new wonder called a Prophet 5. 

He was great with synthesizers, of course, but he could also play some
wicked rock piano. He used to do gigs playing 50s and 60s standards under
the name Ace Luxo, with nothing but a Rhodes and a mic. I lost touch with
him when he moved away from Eugene and I left for college shortly
thereafter. I made contact briefly with him about five or so years ago but
again lost touch. At that time he was still involved with music education,
this time utilizing tools such as interactive CD-ROMs. He'd sold the modular
by then. :-(

His book is a good text on analog synthesizer technique, to be sure. The
writing is a little uneven and the illustrations are hand drawn, but as an
introductory/intermediate text on analog synthesis, I don't think that
anyone has beat it yet. The other artifact that I have is a cassette dub of
an outdoor concert he played on the Eugene mall one summer day, as one of
his many attempts to introduce electronic music to a wider audience. The set
included covers of songs by Kraftwerk and UK as well as some originals. This
was cutting-edge stuff: imagine two guys doing live electronic music on a
summer day at an outdoor mall, with a Prophet 5 as the most sophisticated
instrument on hand. The rest was all analog; between songs, one guy talked
while the other guy patched. I still have one of the flyers for the show
tucked inside the book.

Obviously he was a big influence on me, since here I am, 25 years later,
building modules and reminiscing.

--Adam
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I've seen the Devarahi book go for $60-80.  There's one at an ebay store
> now
> for $59.95.  It has the widest selection of vintage photos I've seen,
> including rarities like the SMS Modular System and the Wavemaker 6.  FWIW
> the Wavemaker 6 photo is a stock publicity shot that also appeared in
> Polyphony.
> 
> John Loffink
> The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
> http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
> The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
> http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >
> > > "The complete guide to synthesizers" by Devarahi (1982 Prentice-Hall)
> >
> > This book is worth over $250 :)
> >
> > Reason: only 500 were made, then all but a few of those destroyed
> because
> > the author/publisher did not get permission for the photographs. The
> > rarest synth book.
> >
> > Paul S.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.