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Sequencer

1999-02-06 by Steve

I think the MOAS idea is wonderful. However, a small 'utility' sequencer could
also be very useful, and this could be realized much sooner than the MOAS.
Something like 8 steps with a couple of gate buses, externally clocked, ability
to be daisy chained so 2 could give 16 steps, or 2 rows of 8 steps. This is a
simple design, but it would be nice if it was in the same style as the rest of
the MOTM system. Kind of a 1/2 arp sequencer in a 3U panel thing, 2 columns of
4 knobs each and then a column of switches 2 wide. What do you guys think?

Also, I am curious how many of each module everyone else is building and why. I
seem to have gone a little wild. Mostly because I want to be able to have 2
seperate patches going on the thing at the same time. This information would
also help those of use who are less experienced in planning a system that will
meet our needs as we gain experience. I want this system to last a lifetime. I
have:

(2) 100
(3) 110
(3) 120
(2) 700 (on order)
(5) 800
(1) 900
(3) 940 (to interface my Fenix)

Aloha,

Steve

Re: Sequencer

1999-02-06 by Roy Tate

Steve wrote:
>
> I think the MOAS idea is wonderful. However, a small 'utility'
> sequencer could also be very useful, and this could be realized
> much sooner than the MOAS. Something like 8 steps with a couple of
> gate buses, externally clocked, ability to be daisy chained so 2
> could give 16 steps, or 2 rows of 8 steps. This is a simple
> design, but it would be nice if it was in the same style as the
> rest of the MOTM system. Kind of a 1/2 arp sequencer in a 3U
> panel thing, 2 columns of 4 knobs each and then a column of
> switches 2 wide. What do you guys think?

The problem is that building even a simple sequencer would be
expensive, and every sale would cut into sales of MOAS. This might
even mean that MOAS wouldn't happen, and I think Paul would prefer
to deliver new and unique modules. After all, the simple 8 step
sequencer has been done sooo many times. But don't get me wrong,
I'm just as eager as everyone else to get VCOs, VCFs and the
sequencer. :)

Regards,

Roy Tate
roytate@...
http://www.ionet.net/~roytate

Re: Sequencer

1999-02-06 by J. Larry Hendry

> From: Steve <eboyz@...>
> I think the MOAS idea is wonderful. However, a small 'utility' sequencer
could
> also be very useful, and this could be realized much sooner than the
MOAS.
> Something like 8 steps with a couple of gate buses, externally clocked,
ability
> to be daisy chained so 2 could give 16 steps, or 2 rows of 8 steps. This
is a
> simple design, but it would be nice if it was in the same style as the
rest of
> the MOTM system. Kind of a 1/2 arp sequencer in a 3U panel thing, 2
columns of
> 4 knobs each and then a column of switches 2 wide. What do you guys
think?

I think that is an interesting suggestion. I like everything Paul has done
so far. And, I am sure you guys that have used sequencers extensively will
have a ton of ideas for him. However, I am a guy who has NEVER used an
analog sequencer. I really have no valuable input now. But, I might after
using one a bit. I have used digital based sequencers (both hardware and
software) so I confortable with that concept. Someone however, will have
to explain to me (or I will have to figure out on my own using one) why I
will even use an analog sequencer. The only "pattern" type stuff I have
played with is using "arppegio" on my JP-6 (way cool).

> Also, I am curious how many of each module everyone else is building and
why. I
> seem to have gone a little wild. Mostly because I want to be able to have
2
> seperate patches going on the thing at the same time. This information
would
> also help those of use who are less experienced in planning a system that
will
> meet our needs as we gain experience. I want this system to last a
lifetime. I
> have:

Steve, this is an EXCELLENT suggestion. I am one of those who also wants
at least two separate patches going on and know I will need at least tow of
everything, and 4 or 6 of others. However, I am also one of those modular
newbies. Paul has been gracious and helpful in his explainations. I would
like to go "wild" as you have Steve. However, college for my oldest son
costs me between $1000 and $1200 a month and will for the next 4 more years
(med school) so, I have to limit myself to about one or two modules at a
time. Since you asked though, here is what I have and am planning. Any
input from others on this list would be appreciated by this newbie.

(1) 100 plan to buy one more
(1) 110 plan to buy one more
(1) 120 plan to buy one more
700 - plan to buy 2 or more (1 at a time)
(4) 800 - I knew I would need at least 4 for two voices. And, I am
thinking it might be cool to have one to EG VCO frequency for some patches.
So, I expect to have at least 5 or more. You can't have to many EGs can
you?

> (1) 900 << Steve wrote -- I am still awaiting arrival of the "case"
style power supply. I plan to build my own case. Right now I have it in a
rack. But, I have this idea that a modular should look something like the
big old wood box Moogs commonly seen on Kevin Lightners synthfool page.

> (3) 940 (to interface my Fenix) << Steve wrote -- MOTM will be my only
modular (unless you count my MS-20). So, I didn't need interface to the
outside world. I will need interface to MIDI2CV. However, my current one
has 1/4" outs. So, I am keeping 100% of my cable 1/4 to 1/4. And when I
get a Kenton, I will have cables from it to a 1/4" patch too.

Thanks Steve for a thought provoking post. Now, lets here from the rest of
you.

Larry Hendry

Re: Sequencer

1999-02-06 by J. Larry Hendry

I wrote and sent before finsihing.....

> Since you asked though, here is what I have and am planning. Any
> input from others on this list would be appreciated by this newbie.

>>>snip out list<<<

Obviously, I left the "still to come" stuff off my list. Of course, much
of that is still unknown. However, my list will include:

4 minimum and eventually 6 VCOs
2 minimun and eventually 4 VCFs (probably 2 of each type since Pauls says
there will be 3 different ones)
sequencer
1 or 2 of everything else (I guess)


Larry Hendry

Re: Sequencer

1999-02-07 by Gur Milstein

At 12:21 AM 2/6/99 -1000, you wrote:
>From: Steve <eboyz@...>
>
>I think the MOAS idea is wonderful. However, a small 'utility' sequencer
could
>also be very useful, and this could be realized much sooner than the MOAS.
>Something like 8 steps with a couple of gate buses, externally clocked,
ability
>to be daisy chained so 2 could give 16 steps, or 2 rows of 8 steps. This
is a
>simple design, but it would be nice if it was in the same style as the
rest of
>the MOTM system. Kind of a 1/2 arp sequencer in a 3U panel thing, 2
columns of
>4 knobs each and then a column of switches 2 wide. What do you guys think?
>
hi guys.
ferst i would like to thank you Steve for making this list avilable,i
thinkthat
this list is a great thing for us MOTM'S.

i think that sequencer designing is a hard job as each of us wants the
right tool
to fit for his need and way of composition.

i'm allso think that the regular 8 step analog seqencer is needed and
is a great tool to play music ,but i also think that the way this regular
sequencer's
are built is not smart enogh by 2 reason's-
1)all those pots and switch's for making only a 8 step reapting patern,this
is a waist of mony=hardwere.
a smart desighn can make a big change in the way of composing music by
analog sequencer and be much more economic.

2)we are coming to the year 2000 and i think that its time to creat a new way
for compositn music on analog modular systems.

ok but if we want to make this smart tool then the only way is going
digital and
thats a problem for us analog guys,many proudct on the market today
are making kind of "analog" digtal based sequencer maq16/3 mc-303....
but they all have the same problem of being non analog electronics.
all this problem are probley can be solved when a guy like Paul with an analog
feel is desighning it.

the trick is to combine digtal and analog together in wich the analog feel
and modulraty well be and the smartnes and progress of digital weel be too.


thanx
Gur Milstein

Re: Sequencer

1999-02-07 by Dave Bradley

Gur sez:

>>>>>>>>>>
i'm allso think that the regular 8 step analog seqencer is needed and
is a great tool to play music ,but i also think that the way this regular
sequencer'sare built is not smart enogh by 2 reason's-
1)all those pots and switch's for making only a 8 step reapting patern,this
is a waist of mony=hardwere.
a smart desighn can make a big change in the way of composing music by
analog sequencer and be much more economic.
<<<<<<<<<<

I'd disagree with you there. The classic tradeoff is economy versus
ergonomics. Number of controls versus panel real estate. Built in mixers
versus external. It's often harder designing the panel and controls of a
module than it is the internal electronics! You could use 1 pot to program
any number of things if you design a mechanism to switch it to do different
things. Then you get... a DX7 or Rhodes Chroma. You have gained economy at
the expense of intuitive and immediate gratification when using it. You'll
save $50 or $75 on parts, and curse every time you use it for the next 10
years<g>. There's nothing like a dedicated knob for each function. Here's a
link posted on Analogue Heaven recently, about Brian Eno's thoughts on
ergonomics:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.01/eno.html

>>>>>>>>>>
2)we are coming to the year 2000 and i think that its time to creat a new
way
for compositn music on analog modular systems.
ok but if we want to make this smart tool then the only way is goingdigital
and
thats a problem for us analog guys,many proudct on the market today
are making kind of "analog" digtal based sequencer maq16/3 mc-303....
but they all have the same problem of being non analog electronics.
all this problem are probley can be solved when a guy like Paul with an
analog
feel is desighning it.
the trick is to combine digtal and analog together in wich the analog feel
and modulraty well be and the smartnes and progress of digital weel be too.
<<<<<<<<<<<

A sequencer is an appropriate place to use digital electronics. It's simply
impossible to build without them. Use analog where appropriate, and digital
where appropriate. Understand that the part of the sequencer that steps
through stages and controls which stage is next is digital, and does not
have any direct connection to the audio path. The only concerns are when you
replace continuous analog voltages with a digital representation. Sometimes
you want an exact representation, in which case only analog may do, but
sometimes you want to quantize to some other representation, which is when
digital control is appropriate. I wouldn't fault the maq16/3 solely on the
basis of its being digital, but only if it didn't perform for me. I would
ask, "can I clock it fast enough to do wavetable synthesis without the DAC
choking", or "does it store the voltage with enough error so that I can hear
the difference".


Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@...

Re: Sequencer

1999-02-12 by Gur Milstein

At 01:00 PM 2/7/99 -0600, you wrote:
>From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...>
>


>A sequencer is an appropriate place to use digital electronics. It's simply
>impossible to build without them. Use analog where appropriate, and digital
>where appropriate. Understand that the part of the sequencer that steps
>through stages and controls which stage is next is digital, and does not
>have any direct connection to the audio path. The only concerns are when you
>replace continuous analog voltages with a digital representation. Sometimes
>you want an exact representation, in which case only analog may do, but
>sometimes you want to quantize to some other representation, which is when
>digital control is appropriate. I wouldn't fault the maq16/3 solely on the
>basis of its being digital, but only if it didn't perform for me.

i gut the maq16/3 for 2 years and i gut a 16/4 DIY analog sequencer and
you just cant compere them.
i think that dopffer made a basicly wrong desighn of this unit,and i think
that its in the internal clock.
i made a small test and i patch a regular analog LFO as clock for the
analog sequencer
and compering it to the maq clock the analog sequencer,and then i heard
that the analog seq with the maq had sound bad allmost like the maq itself
sound
and dont get me wrong hear i know that analog sequencer is baisd on digital
hardwere (i built one) but i do think that control has a hard conection with
the audio,i would even say that the timbre in a modular system is mostly
synthsis
by control moduls vco's, seq,envelops for aditive... you know (-
i talked to a frend of mine about the motm seq and he said why not makeing
all this
digtal hybrid analog sequencer in to moduls and now i read about the emu
control panel,
its sounds like the best thing to have.
i liked the ide of a digital memory wich is clocked by an analog clock.

so i wish Paul would make somthing like this Emu control panel or a regular
8 step
analog sequencer or somthing like the tkb.
on the other hand a digital/analog sequencer with iduvidual clock in put for
each row could be great too.

Dave can you scane the Emu sequencer ?

thanx
Gur Milstein






I would
>ask, "can I clock it fast enough to do wavetable synthesis without the DAC
>choking", or "does it store the voltage with enough error so that I can hear
>the difference".
>
>
>Dave Bradley
>Principal Software Engineer
>Engineering Animation, Inc.
>daveb@...
>
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Sequencer

1999-02-20 by Gur Milstein

Paul and guy's.
so whats end up with the MOAS,Paul what are the conclosions ?

thanx
Gur Milstein

Sequencer

2002-01-15 by geblinkoort

Just curious:
Does anyone have any experience with the Carp 1601 analog step
sequencer from VCF (Voltage Control Freaks)?
Thanks,

Michel Havenith

Sequencer

2005-07-24 by Miguel Mendoza

Hello all, just thinking to add an analog sequencer to my MOTM modules, any recomendation? I was thinking about Future Retro Mobius or Doepfer MAQ 16 or even I would like to know if I can use the Q119  Sequential Controller from synthesizers.com. Anybody uses it?
Thanks!
 

RE: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-24 by John Loffink

If you can wait I would hold out for the MOTM-650 sequencer.  I have two Q119s and the convenience of stored “knob” settings quickly becomes apparent when setting notes from a traditional analog sequencer.  I tune using a frequency counter and very fine knob adjustments.  Once running, you are very unlikely to change notes, so the need for one knob/one note correspondence is not necessarily true.  Also the ability of a pattern sequencer like the 650 to jump from sequence to sequence provides a lot more variety.

 

John Loffink

The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site

http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com

The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site

http://www.wavemakers-synth.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Mendoza
Sent:
Sunday, July 24, 2005 2:59 AM
To: MOTM litserv
Subject: [motm] Sequencer

 

Hello all, just thinking to add an analog sequencer to my MOTM modules, any recomendation? I was thinking about Future Retro Mobius or Doepfer MAQ 16 or even I would like to know if I can use the Q119  Sequential Controller from synthesizers.com. Anybody uses it?

Thanks!

 

Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-24 by Miguel Mendoza

Thanks a lot for your answer, John. Hoewever it looks to me that the MOTM-650 is not the kind of a typical analog step secuencer, is it? Perhaps the interface is more like a Roland 404, what is cool but I'm more into step sequencers.
Please, tell me if I'm wrong.
Anyway I think that the Q119 can't be midi synchroniced what makes it to me unusable.
Thanks!
Miguel.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Sequencer

If you can wait I would hold out for the MOTM-650 sequencer.  I have two Q119s and the convenience of stored “knob” settings quickly becomes apparent when setting notes from a traditional analog sequencer.  I tune using a frequency counter and very fine knob adjustments.  Once running, you are very unlikely to change notes, so the need for one knob/one note correspondence is not necessarily true.  Also the ability of a pattern sequencer like the 650 to jump from sequence to sequence provides a lot more variety.

 

John Loffink

The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site

http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com

The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site

http://www.wavemakers-synth.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Mendoza
Sent:
Sunday, July 24, 2005 2:59 AM
To: MOTM litserv
Subject: [motm] Sequencer

 

Hello all, just thinking to add an analog sequencer to my MOTM modules, any recomendation? I was thinking about Future Retro Mobius or Doepfer MAQ 16 or even I would like to know if I can use the Q119  Sequential Controller from synthesizers.com. Anybody uses it?

Thanks!

 

Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-24 by Neil Bradley

Miguel Mendoza wrote:
> Thanks a lot for your answer, John. Hoewever it looks to me that the
> MOTM-650 is not the kind of a typical analog step secuencer, is it?

I think you mean the MOTM-600. The 650 is the MIDI->CV converter.

-->Neil

Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-24 by Miguel Mendoza

Thanks for the correction Neil, do you know when any of these modules (600-650) wil be available?
Chers.
Miguel.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Sequencer

Miguel Mendoza wrote:
> Thanks a lot for your answer, John. Hoewever it looks to me that the
> MOTM-650 is not the kind of a typical analog step secuencer, is it?

I think you mean the MOTM-600. The 650 is the MIDI->CV converter.

-->Neil

RE: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-24 by John Loffink

That was my mistake. MOTM-600 is the uSequencer.

Miguel, if syncing to MIDI is important, then a computer based sequencer
like Bankstep or Softstep paired with a MIDI-CV is a powerful combination.

http://algoart.com/

Sometimes it helps to list out all the features as required or optional and
then compare them to what's on the market.

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
>
> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
> > Thanks a lot for your answer, John. Hoewever it looks to me that the
> > MOTM-650 is not the kind of a typical analog step secuencer, is it?
>
> I think you mean the MOTM-600. The 650 is the MIDI->CV converter.
>
> -->Neil
>

Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-25 by Miguel Mendoza

Interesting... But my main purpose is to be able to make patches and sequences with the computer turned off, I spend too many hours in front of the computer due to my other work (Flash programmer). For me it would be cool something ala old Moog Modular sequencer but with MIDI timecode sync so I can easy integrate the loops later with my other stuff.
Thanks!!!
Miguel Mendoza.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Adam
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Sequencer

Also have a look at the P3.
http://www.p3sequencer.com/
I got one and it's just great.
You'll need a MIDI > CV converter....

Cheers,
Tom


Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-25 by Miguel Mendoza

Interesting... But my main purpose is to be able to make patches and sequences with the computer turned off, I spend too many hours in front of the computer due to my other work (Flash programmer). For me it would be cool something ala old Moog Modular sequencer but with MIDI timecode sync so I can easy integrate the loops later with my other stuff.
Thanks!!!
Miguel Mendoza.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 11:10 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Sequencer

That was my mistake.  MOTM-600 is the uSequencer.

Miguel, if syncing to MIDI is important, then a computer based sequencer
like Bankstep or Softstep paired with a MIDI-CV is a powerful combination.

http://algoart.com/

Sometimes it helps to list out all the features as required or optional and
then compare them to what's on the market.

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
>
> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
> > Thanks a lot for your answer, John. Hoewever it looks to me that the
> > MOTM-650 is not the kind of a typical analog step secuencer, is it?
>
> I think you mean the MOTM-600. The 650 is the MIDI->CV converter.
>
> -->Neil
>


Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-25 by Miguel Mendoza

Thanks for the link, it looks very cool and retro. For that purpose I have the Radikal Technologies Spectralis that in a next future it will be able to sequence other MIDI gear (the OS istill 0.93A) the sequencer in this machine is one of the most powerfull I have seen...
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Adam
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Sequencer

Also have a look at the P3.
http://www.p3sequencer.com/
I got one and it's just great.
You'll need a MIDI > CV converter....

Cheers,
Tom


Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-25 by eric f

Miguel,
 
Have you looked at a Milton? 
 
The PCBs are available at Big City Music or Peter Grenader can build you one starting at around $1500.  I recall him posting a message at the Milton forum saying that he had done some custom MIDI-related mods.  Milton 2 is supposed to have a MIDI interface of some kind, though there's no word on when M2 will happen.
 
To sync in a DIY type fashion, Kenton says that the Pro Solo's LFO can be synched with the MIDI clock.  So, Milton + Kenton might fit the bill for you.
 
Disclaimer: I haven't built a Milton yet.  I'm still working on improving my soldering skills before I undertake such a massive project, especially since I'd need some custom mods on it myself.
 
cheers,
eric f

Miguel Mendoza <miguel@...> wrote:
Interesting... But my main purpose is to be able to make patches and sequences with the computer turned off, I spend too many hours in front of the computer due to my other work (Flash programmer). For me it would be cool something ala old Moog Modular sequencer but with MIDI timecode sync so I can easy integrate the loops later with my other stuff.
Thanks!!!
Miguel Mendoza.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Adam
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Sequencer

Also have a look at the P3.
http://www.p3sequencer.com/
I got one and it's just great.
You'll need a MIDI > CV converter....

Cheers,
Tom


Re: [motm] Sequencer try FAT

2005-07-25 by Joe Pavone

Hi Miquel,

Do yourself a favor and check out a Frostwave FAT controller. It's
relatively inexpensive, has lots of features, and has analog 1/4"
outputs as well as midi.

More info here:
http://www.frostwave.com/fatcontroller/index.html

And like your MOTM - Built like a tank!

...jp

eric f wrote:

> Miguel,
>
> Have you looked at a Milton?
> http://www.buzzclick-music.com/about_milton.html
>
> The PCBs are available at Big City Music or Peter Grenader can build you
> one starting at around $1500. I recall him posting a message at the
> Milton forum saying that he had done some custom MIDI-related mods.
> Milton 2 is supposed to have a MIDI interface of some kind, though
> there's no word on when M2 will happen.
>
> To sync in a DIY type fashion, Kenton says that the Pro Solo's LFO can
> be synched with the MIDI clock. So, Milton + Kenton might fit the bill
> for you.
>
> Disclaimer: I haven't built a Milton yet. I'm still working
> on improving my soldering skills before I undertake such a massive
> project, especially since I'd need some custom mods on it myself.
>
> cheers,
> eric f
>
> Miguel Mendoza <miguel@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting... But my main purpose is to be able to make patches and
> sequences with the computer turned off, I spend too many hours in
> front of the computer due to my other work (Flash programmer). For
> me it would be cool something ala old Moog Modular sequencer but
> with MIDI timecode sync so I can easy integrate the loops later with
> my other stuff.
> Thanks!!!
> Miguel Mendoza.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Adam <mailto:tom.adam@...>
> To: motm@yahoogroups.com <mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [motm] Sequencer
>
> Also have a look at the P3.
> http://www.p3sequencer.com/
> I got one and it's just great.
> You'll need a MIDI > CV converter....
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
>

Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-25 by Miguel Mendoza

This is the thing... If already built, can't spend so much time.
Thank you!
----- Original Message -----
From: eric f
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Sequencer

Miguel,
 
Have you looked at a Milton? 
 
The PCBs are available at Big City Music or Peter Grenader can build you one starting at around $1500.  I recall him posting a message at the Milton forum saying that he had done some custom MIDI-related mods.  Milton 2 is supposed to have a MIDI interface of some kind, though there's no word on when M2 will happen.
 
To sync in a DIY type fashion, Kenton says that the Pro Solo's LFO can be synched with the MIDI clock.  So, Milton + Kenton might fit the bill for you.
 
Disclaimer: I haven't built a Milton yet.  I'm still working on improving my soldering skills before I undertake such a massive project, especially since I'd need some custom mods on it myself.
 
cheers,
eric f

Miguel Mendoza <miguel@...> wrote:
Interesting... But my main purpose is to be able to make patches and sequences with the computer turned off, I spend too many hours in front of the computer due to my other work (Flash programmer). For me it would be cool something ala old Moog Modular sequencer but with MIDI timecode sync so I can easy integrate the loops later with my other stuff.
Thanks!!!
Miguel Mendoza.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Adam
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Sequencer

Also have a look at the P3.
http://www.p3sequencer.com/
I got one and it's just great.
You'll need a MIDI > CV converter....

Cheers,
Tom


Re: [motm] Sequencer try FAT

2005-07-25 by Miguel Mendoza

Yes, I was seeing it time ago but I didn't know that it can send CV/Gates, can it?
Thank you!
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Pavone
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Sequencer try FAT

Hi Miquel,

Do yourself a favor and check out a Frostwave FAT controller. It's
relatively inexpensive, has lots of features, and has analog 1/4"
outputs as well as midi.

More info here:
http://www.frostwave.com/fatcontroller/index.html

And like your MOTM - Built like a tank!

...jp

eric f wrote:

> Miguel,

> Have you looked at a Milton?
> http://www.buzzclick-music.com/about_milton.html

> The PCBs are available at Big City Music or Peter Grenader can build you
> one starting at around $1500.  I recall him posting a message at the
> Milton forum saying that he had done some custom MIDI-related mods. 
> Milton 2 is supposed to have a MIDI interface of some kind, though
> there's no word on when M2 will happen.

> To sync in a DIY type fashion, Kenton says that the Pro Solo's LFO can
> be synched with the MIDI clock.  So, Milton + Kenton might fit the bill
> for you.

> Disclaimer: I haven't built a Milton yet.  I'm still working
> on improving my soldering skills before I undertake such a massive
> project, especially since I'd need some custom mods on it myself.

> cheers,
> eric f
>
> Miguel Mendoza <miguel@...> wrote:
>
>     Interesting... But my main purpose is to be able to make patches and
>     sequences with the computer turned off, I spend too many hours in
>     front of the computer due to my other work (Flash programmer). For
>     me it would be cool something ala old Moog Modular sequencer but
>     with MIDI timecode sync so I can easy integrate the loops later with
>     my other stuff.
>     Thanks!!!
>     Miguel Mendoza.
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Tom Adam <mailto:tom.adam@...>
>         To: motm@yahoogroups.com <mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com>
>         Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:25 PM
>         Subject: RE: [motm] Sequencer
>
>         Also have a look at the P3.
>         http://www.p3sequencer.com/
>         I got one and it's just great.
>         You'll need a MIDI > CV converter....
>
>         Cheers,
>         Tom
>

Re: [motm] Sequencer try FAT

2005-07-26 by jhaible@debitel.net

I have one too, and I love it.
No fancy menues. Instead, very "interactive".
That's the sequencer I used for "daphne".
(http://home.debitel.net/user/jhaible/hol_in_purg.html#track7)

JH.


> Yes, it can send CV/Gates. I really like mine.
>
> At 12:57 PM 7/25/2005, you wrote:
> >Yes, I was seeing it time ago but I didn't know that it can send CV/Gates,
> >can it?
> >Thank you!
>
> ~david~
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Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-26 by Ben Vehorn

http://www.signalarts.ca/
The Signal Arts sequencer fits the bill and is pretty awesome. It has 3
channels of cv/gate and you can use them independently as a midi/cv
converter if you like while the sequencer sends out midi.
The Fat Controller is really nice as well but is a completely different
beast. The 2 actually complement each other nicely.

On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:58 AM, Miguel Mendoza wrote:

> Hello all, just thinking to add an analog sequencer to my MOTM
> modules, any recomendation? I was thinking about Future Retro Mobius
> or Doepfer MAQ 16 or even I would like to know if I can use the
> Q119  Sequential Controller from synthesizers.com. Anybody uses it?
> Thanks!
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Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-26 by Miguel Mendoza


Thanks Ben the Signal Arts looks very interesting although only 8 steps...
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Vehorn
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Sequencer

http://www.signalarts.ca/
The Signal Arts sequencer fits the bill and is pretty awesome. It has 3 channels of cv/gate and you can use them independently as a midi/cv converter if you like while the sequencer sends out midi.
The Fat Controller is really nice as well but is a completely different beast. The 2 actually complement each other nicely.

On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:58 AM, Miguel Mendoza wrote:

Hello all, just thinking to add an analog sequencer to my MOTM modules, any recomendation? I was thinking about Future Retro Mobius or Doepfer MAQ 16 or even I would like to know if I can use the Q119  Sequential Controller from synthesizers.com. Anybody uses it?
Thanks!
 


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Re: [motm] Sequencer

2005-07-26 by Ben Vehorn

Yes, but that's incredibly deceptive.
With sequence chaining and cross-modulation it's possible to turn those
8 step sequences into really long evolving patterns that don't repeat
for quite a while...

On Jul 26, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Miguel Mendoza wrote:

> Thanks Ben the Signal Arts looks very interesting although only 8
> steps...
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ben Vehorn
>> To: motm@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [motm] Sequencer
>>
>> http://www.signalarts.ca/
>> The Signal Arts sequencer fits the bill and is pretty awesome. It has
>> 3 channels of cv/gate and you can use them independently as a midi/cv
>> converter if you like while the sequencer sends out midi.
>> The Fat Controller is really nice as well but is a completely
>> different beast. The 2 actually complement each other nicely.
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:58 AM, Miguel Mendoza wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all, just thinking to add an analog sequencer to my MOTM
>>> modules, any recomendation? I was thinking about Future Retro Mobius
>>> or Doepfer MAQ 16 or even I would like to know if I can use the
>>> Q119  Sequential Controller from synthesizers.com. Anybody uses it?
>>> Thanks!
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