Re: Thinking on Mixer --> Fenix
1999-10-31 by Elhardt@xxx.xxx
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1999-10-31 by Elhardt@xxx.xxx
DAVEVOSH@... writes: >>never heard of this one ? is it still around? do they have a website? mostly just idle curiousity.<< The following will get you to some pictures fast: http://www.cameo.nl/Fenix/smallpix.html Their home page is: http://www.cameo.nl They apparently did a one time build of only 25 units and sold them. So they are no longer available.
1999-10-31 by J. Larry Hendry
I got my hands on one of these briefly at the AH Midwest gathering about a year ago. They are VERY compact, tiny knobs, and bananas. I didn't have an opportunity to do any patching on it. It might have sounded fine, but I personally could not stand working with that format (hands all tied up in wires trying to reach tiny knobs). LH > From: Elhardt@... > > DAVEVOSH@... writes: > >>never heard of this one ? is it still around? do they have a website? > mostly just idle curiousity.<< > > The following will get you to some pictures fast: > http://www.cameo.nl/Fenix/smallpix.html > > Their home page is: > http://www.cameo.nl > > They apparently did a one time build of only 25 units and sold them. So they
> are no longer available. > >
1999-10-31 by Paul Schreiber
I had 1 day to examine the Fenix last fall, and here are my findings (*completely unbiased, of course*) 1) Uses 3-terminal 78xx/79xx voltage reulators. Sucks. 2) Said regulators bolted to black painted case (on rear), which Thermo 101 will say causes said regulator to turn into toast. Sucks. 3) Uses single-sided pc boards. Sucks. 4) Uses unsheilded bananas, with 1 master ground on the *rear* panel. Sucks & sucks. 5) No mechanical support for pc boards. PCBs "dangle" from pot solder joints. *Really* sucks. 6) 95% of circuits straight out of Electronotes. Sorta sucks. 7) Many "modules" have no control pots. Sucks. 8) Won't fit in SKB pop-up mixer case. Sucks. What I liked 1) Nice sheetmetal/screening job. 1st rate. Paul S.
1999-10-31 by DAVEVOSH@xxx.xxx
In a message dated 99-10-30 23:57:54 EDT, you write: << The following will get you to some pictures fast: http://www.cameo.nl/Fenix/smallpix.html >> thanks for the ( historical interest only ) info. best, dave
1999-10-31 by JWBarlow@xxx.xxx
OK, I believe it! You're from Texas! In a message dated 10/30/99 9:11:39 PM, synth1@... writes:
>I had 1 day to examine the Fenix last fall, and here are my findings > >(*completely unbiased, of course*) > > > >1) Uses 3-terminal 78xx/79xx voltage reulators. Sucks. > >2) Said regulators bolted to black painted case (on rear), which Thermo >101 > >will say causes said regulator to turn into toast. Sucks. > >3) Uses single-sided pc boards. Sucks. > >4) Uses unsheilded bananas, with 1 master ground on the *rear* panel. Sucks > >& sucks. > >5) No mechanical support for pc boards. PCBs "dangle" from pot solder > >joints. *Really* sucks. > >6) 95% of circuits straight out of Electronotes. Sorta sucks. > >7) Many "modules" have no control pots. Sucks. > >8) Won't fit in SKB pop-up mixer case. Sucks. > > > >What I liked > > > >1) Nice sheetmetal/screening job. 1st rate. > >
1999-10-31 by J. Larry Hendry
Why don't you tell us your TRUE feelings Paul. Don't be so reserved. he he LH > From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> > > I had 1 day to examine the Fenix last fall, and here are my findings > (*completely unbiased, of course*) > > 1) Uses 3-terminal 78xx/79xx voltage reulators. Sucks. > 2) Said regulators bolted to black painted case (on rear), which Thermo 101 > will say causes said regulator to turn into toast. Sucks. > 3) Uses single-sided pc boards. Sucks. > 4) Uses unsheilded bananas, with 1 master ground on the *rear* panel. Sucks
> & sucks. > 5) No mechanical support for pc boards. PCBs "dangle" from pot solder > joints. *Really* sucks. > 6) 95% of circuits straight out of Electronotes. Sorta sucks. > 7) Many "modules" have no control pots. Sucks. > 8) Won't fit in SKB pop-up mixer case. Sucks. > > What I liked > > 1) Nice sheetmetal/screening job. 1st rate.
1999-10-31 by DAVEVOSH@xxx.xxx
In a message dated 99-10-31 00:08:16 EDT, you write: << but I personally could not stand working with that format (hands all tied up in wires trying to reach tiny knobs). >> larry, i can see your point but it is a matter of what you get used to. i spent about 15 years using a synth with those qualities. like i was saying, you take the good along with the bad. every system design is a study in trade-off`s. even in the context of a given system, every collection of modules and their layout in a frame encompasses trade-off`s. everyone has their own vision....... best, dave
1999-10-31 by DAVEVOSH@xxx.xxx
In a message dated 99-10-31 00:11:31 EDT, you write: << (*completely unbiased, of course*) >> paul, i can see where #1,2,5,7 are problems!!! don`t know the reference on #8 about case. best, dave