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Re: Thinking on Mixer --> Fenix

Re: Thinking on Mixer --> Fenix

1999-10-31 by J. Larry Hendry

I got my hands on one of these briefly at the AH Midwest gathering about a
year ago. They are VERY compact, tiny knobs, and bananas. I didn't have
an opportunity to do any patching on it. It might have sounded fine, but I
personally could not stand working with that format (hands all tied up in
wires trying to reach tiny knobs).
LH

> From: Elhardt@...
>
> DAVEVOSH@... writes:
> >>never heard of this one ? is it still around? do they have a website?
> mostly just idle curiousity.<<
>
> The following will get you to some pictures fast:
> http://www.cameo.nl/Fenix/smallpix.html
>
> Their home page is:
> http://www.cameo.nl
>
> They apparently did a one time build of only 25 units and sold them. So
they
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Re: Thinking on Mixer --> Fenix

1999-10-31 by Paul Schreiber

I had 1 day to examine the Fenix last fall, and here are my findings
(*completely unbiased, of course*)

1) Uses 3-terminal 78xx/79xx voltage reulators. Sucks.
2) Said regulators bolted to black painted case (on rear), which Thermo 101
will say causes said regulator to turn into toast. Sucks.
3) Uses single-sided pc boards. Sucks.
4) Uses unsheilded bananas, with 1 master ground on the *rear* panel. Sucks
& sucks.
5) No mechanical support for pc boards. PCBs "dangle" from pot solder
joints. *Really* sucks.
6) 95% of circuits straight out of Electronotes. Sorta sucks.
7) Many "modules" have no control pots. Sucks.
8) Won't fit in SKB pop-up mixer case. Sucks.

What I liked

1) Nice sheetmetal/screening job. 1st rate.

Paul S.

Re: Thinking on Mixer --> Fenix

1999-10-31 by JWBarlow@xxx.xxx

OK, I believe it! You're from Texas!

In a message dated 10/30/99 9:11:39 PM, synth1@... writes:

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>I had 1 day to examine the Fenix last fall, and here are my findings
>
>(*completely unbiased, of course*)
>
>
>
>1) Uses 3-terminal 78xx/79xx voltage reulators. Sucks.
>
>2) Said regulators bolted to black painted case (on rear), which Thermo
>101
>
>will say causes said regulator to turn into toast. Sucks.
>
>3) Uses single-sided pc boards. Sucks.
>
>4) Uses unsheilded bananas, with 1 master ground on the *rear* panel. Sucks
>
>& sucks.
>
>5) No mechanical support for pc boards. PCBs "dangle" from pot solder
>
>joints. *Really* sucks.
>
>6) 95% of circuits straight out of Electronotes. Sorta sucks.
>
>7) Many "modules" have no control pots. Sucks.
>
>8) Won't fit in SKB pop-up mixer case. Sucks.
>
>
>
>What I liked
>
>
>
>1) Nice sheetmetal/screening job. 1st rate.
>
>

Re: Thinking on Mixer --> Fenix

1999-10-31 by J. Larry Hendry

Why don't you tell us your TRUE feelings Paul. Don't be so reserved. he
he
LH


> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
> I had 1 day to examine the Fenix last fall, and here are my findings
> (*completely unbiased, of course*)
>
> 1) Uses 3-terminal 78xx/79xx voltage reulators. Sucks.
> 2) Said regulators bolted to black painted case (on rear), which Thermo
101
> will say causes said regulator to turn into toast. Sucks.
> 3) Uses single-sided pc boards. Sucks.
> 4) Uses unsheilded bananas, with 1 master ground on the *rear* panel.
Sucks
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> & sucks.
> 5) No mechanical support for pc boards. PCBs "dangle" from pot solder
> joints. *Really* sucks.
> 6) 95% of circuits straight out of Electronotes. Sorta sucks.
> 7) Many "modules" have no control pots. Sucks.
> 8) Won't fit in SKB pop-up mixer case. Sucks.
>
> What I liked
>
> 1) Nice sheetmetal/screening job. 1st rate.

Re: Thinking on Mixer --> Fenix

1999-10-31 by DAVEVOSH@xxx.xxx

In a message dated 99-10-31 00:08:16 EDT, you write:

<< but I
personally could not stand working with that format (hands all tied up in
wires trying to reach tiny knobs). >>




larry,
i can see your point but it is a matter of what you get used to. i spent
about 15 years using a synth with those qualities. like i was saying, you
take the good along with the bad. every system design is a study in
trade-off`s. even in the context of a given system, every collection of
modules and their layout in a frame encompasses trade-off`s. everyone has
their own vision.......
best,
dave

Re: Thinking on Mixer --> Fenix

1999-10-31 by DAVEVOSH@xxx.xxx

In a message dated 99-10-31 00:11:31 EDT, you write:

<< (*completely unbiased, of course*)
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paul,
i can see where #1,2,5,7 are problems!!!
don`t know the reference on #8 about case.
best,
dave