Yahoo Groups archive

MOTM

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:35 UTC

Thread

Carriers, Modulators, Sawtooths, & Ramps oh my

Carriers, Modulators, Sawtooths, & Ramps oh my

1999-10-25 by Dave Bradley

Dear Crank:

> Many synth modules have two inputs that act upon each other, and these are
> typically called the "carrier" and "modulator." Now common sense says that
> the "carrier" ought to be the signal that is being modified, and the
> "modulator" is the one doing the modifying. At least whenever such a
> distinction can be made.

I totally agree with you. We are right and the rest of the world is wrong.
The voices inside my head told me so.

I was beaten into calling
> positive-going waves "ramps" and negative, "sawtooths," with full
> knowledge
> that these were arbitrary names for otherwise identical waves. But I was
> told that these were agreed-upon conventions in the E-Music world to help
> make things simple.
>
> Yet years later, I seem to be the only person who's ever heard of
> this. And
> it seemed like such a good convention. Did my mentors make this
> up? It would
> seem to be a pretty localized convention.

Never heard that one. In my world, ramps go both up and down.

Moe

Re: Carriers, Modulators, Sawtooths, & Ramps oh my

1999-10-25 by james holloway

I remember in the relatively early days of synths that ramps and sawtooths 
were referred to diffeently but I thought it had to do with the frequency 
rather than direction. dummy me!
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...>
>Reply-To: motm@onelist.com
>To: <motm@onelist.com>
>Subject: [motm] Carriers, Modulators, Sawtooths, & Ramps oh my
>Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:38:59 -0500
>
>Dear Crank:
>
> > Many synth modules have two inputs that act upon each other, and these 
>are
> > typically called the "carrier" and "modulator." Now common sense says 
>that
> > the "carrier" ought to be the signal that is being modified, and the
> > "modulator" is the one doing the modifying. At least whenever such a
> > distinction can be made.
>
>I totally agree with you. We are right and the rest of the world is wrong.
>The voices inside my head told me so.
>
>I was beaten into calling
> > positive-going waves "ramps" and negative, "sawtooths," with full
> > knowledge
> > that these were arbitrary names for otherwise identical waves. But I was
> > told that these were agreed-upon conventions in the E-Music world to 
>help
> > make things simple.
> >
> > Yet years later, I seem to be the only person who's ever heard of
> > this. And
> > it seemed like such a good convention. Did my mentors make this
> > up? It would
> > seem to be a pretty localized convention.
>
>Never heard that one. In my world, ramps go both up and down.
>
>Moe
>
><< text3.html >>

RE: Carriers, Modulators, Sawtooths, & Ramps oh my

1999-10-25 by Tkacs, Ken

Yeah! Back in the days when synthesizers were the size of houses! When you
didn't even have a keyboard! When creating electronic music was called a
"realization," and when just putting anything through heavy spring reverb
was cool! When men were men, and negative-going sawtooths were ramps! The
heady days of the Golden Age.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
		-----Original Message-----
		From:	james holloway [mailto:jimh54@...]
		Sent:	Monday, October 25, 1999 12:54 PM
		To:	motm@onelist.com
		Subject:	Re: [motm] Carriers, Modulators, Sawtooths,
& Ramps oh my

		From: "james holloway" <jimh54@...>

		I remember in the relatively early days of synths that ramps
and sawtooths 
		were referred to diffeently but I thought it had to do with
the frequency 
		rather than direction.

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.