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Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

2003-04-10 by jwbarlow@aol.com

In a message dated 4/10/2003 9:37:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, phaneber@... writes:
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The MOTM choice is
a .01uF axial cap.


OK, I'm having a bad day with the caps. While trying to eliminate some of those unfinished clutter projects (a C. McDonald VCO PCB), I inadvertently used 0.1uF caps for PS bypass instead of the 0.01uF. I'm under the impression that the value of bypass isn't critical, but since it's a VCO I thought I'd ask. I don't want to pull them unless I need to.

JB

Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

2003-04-11 by jwbarlow@aol.com

In a message dated 4/10/2003 4:33:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, synth1@... writes:
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>>The MOTM choice is a .01uF axial cap.

Errr...nope. The caps that I use a re 0.1uf (marked 104). Look at ANY MOTM documentation or
schematic.


So in this case two wrongs DO make a right -- I knew if I screwed up enough it would eventually be to my benefit!

JB

Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

2003-04-11 by media.nai@rcn.com

At 6:43 PM -0500 4/10/03, Paul Schreiber wrote:
>  >>The MOTM choice is a .01uF axial cap.
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>Errr...nope. The caps that I use a re 0.1uf (marked 104).

Doh!!  I should have caught that.

Does anyone else think that 100nF reads better??

Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

2003-04-11 by John Blacet

So far,  I have not seen caps *marked* in nF.

The whole \ufffdF, nF, pF thing is really confusing to begginners.

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Regards,
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John Blacet
Blacet Research
http://www.blacet.com

Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

2003-04-11 by Paul Schreiber

All of the "yellow box" caps in MOTM are marked in nf. It seems to be "popular" for film caps
between 1000pf and 0.47uf.

Paul S.

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> So far,  I have not seen caps *marked* in nF.
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> Blacet Research
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Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

2003-04-11 by media.nai@rcn.com

At 7:50 AM -0700 4/11/03, John Blacet wrote:
>So far,  I have not seen caps *marked* in nF.

I've seen caps with "n", like those yellow box caps.

>The whole µF, nF, pF thing is really confusing to begginners.

Don't forget "MFD" and "mmF" :)  That it jumps every three zeros 
seems intuitive enough, but it isn't used consistently.  For some 
inexplicable reason,  engineers don't like nanofarads.  You never see 
a 100 Ohm resistor called .1K

Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

2003-04-11 by Tony Allgood

>So far,  I have not seen caps *marked* in nF.

In the UK, and probably the rest of Europe. Polyester box caps, and the
larger polypropylene types are all marked in nF. You will see values
like 680n, 10n and so on.

Many engineers refer to uF as 'muff' and pF as 'puff'. Poor old nF just
gets called 'enn'.

An old circuit simulator I used would measure resistance in K. Thus 0.1K
was the only valid form of 100R. It was pretty stupid in many other ways
too. Like the op-amp that would always rail out at +/-12V, even if the
supply voltage was +/-6V!

Regards,

Tony Allgood                       Penrith, Cumbria, England

Oakley Sound Systems                     www.oakleysound.com

RE: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

2003-04-11 by Paul Haneberg

OOOPS!!!
Sorry, I was going by memory.  Obviously old age is setting in.
Paul Haneberg
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Subject: Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

>>The MOTM choice is a .01uF axial cap.

Errr...nope. The caps that I use a re 0.1uf (marked 104). Look at ANY
MOTM documentation or
schematic.

Paul S.



 

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Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning

2003-04-12 by Craig Critchley

Actually, I found it got easier when I encountered nF.  Converting directly
between uF and pF was always a confusing hassle (what's 0.001uF again?);
having nF in the middle really helped the brain, just like ohms, K, and M
for resistors.  If I never saw numbers bigger than 1000 or smaller than 1 on
a schematic or parts list, I would be very happy.

                                ...Craig

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Subject: Re: [motm] Re: [ot] [Q] Power Rail Conditioning


> So far,  I have not seen caps *marked* in nF.
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> The whole \ufffdF, nF, pF thing is really confusing to begginners.
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> John Blacet
> Blacet Research
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