MOTM

Ah! I cherish every album on Paul's list and many others mentioned. I also second the very high praise for Gentle Giant's "Playing the Fool."; That was the first GG album I ever heard.

At the risk of boring many, here's a quick, subjective skim of the highlights of my CD shelf, for anyone that's interested (no one...? Please forgive the bandwidth, then, my friends):

*IDIOMATIC ELCTRONIC MUSIC*

_(i.e., 'bleeps' & 'bloops' and new approaches... what we used to mean when we said 'Electronic Music' back in the day)_

"Forbidden Planet" soundtrack by Louis & Bebe Baron (awesome, pre-keyboard EM)

"OHM: the Early Gurus of Electronic Music" (sampler, good overview)

"By Request" Wendy Carlos (not on CD... yet) the "Geodesic Dance" was an early epiphany for me, as were "Timesteps" and "Title Music" featured on the 'Clockwork Orange' soundtrack.

"Beauty in the Beast" Wendy Carlos (microtonal and quite listenable)

"Sonic Seasonings" Wendy Carlos (proto ambient)

"Secrets of Synthesis" Wendy Carlos (actually a fast-paced lecture about EM and composing for EM)

"The Andromeda Strain" Gil Melle (I love this soundtrack, but I do understand why my co-workers want to kill me... erratic, percussive, maniacal)

"Black Mass" Mort Garson (scary Moogish music)

"Beastiary" by Robert Rich, occupying a place of extreme honor in my collection for months now. More! More! More please!

*ELECTRONICALLY-REALIZED CLASSICAL*

_(Actual classical music realized on synthesizer)_

"Switched-On Boxed Set" What can I say, it's the original, and few imitators put even 1% of the effort that Carlos exerts to get things right.

"The Planets" Isao Tomita; also "Snowflakes are Dancing," "Daphnis et Chloe," and "The Bermuda Triangle" (trippiest Prokofiev you've ever put headphones on for). Oh, and for Tomita's 'lecture,' "Sound Creature." Carlos is an engineer; Tomita just splashes color at the canvas. Mondrian vs. Matisse. Even though he dips into goofy sound sometimes, Tomita has hit real high points, too.

"Classic Pieces" Mychael Danna (sort of... if Synergy was trying to be Carlos... pieces performed fairly straight, but with what sounds like a small 4-track studio. Among the best of the SOB imitators, I think.)

"The Four Seasons" by Patrick Gleeson. Done on a Synclavier; wish he'd used his Emu modular that he employed on his 'Planets.' "The Planets" is okay, too, but I disagree with a lot of his phrasing, so I hold back high marks on that one.

*ELECTRONIC POP*

_(Popular music that relies on synthesizers in a critical way)_

"Stratosfear" & "Encore" by Tangerine Dream; I read the first five Carlos Castaneda books with Encore playing nonstop. Really creates a mood. There's a lot of good TD but you can go broke trying to collect it all. "Sorcerer" is a personal favorite, too.

"Heaven & Hell" by Vangelis, best known for the piece from which the 'Cosmos' TV series got its main theme. Also, his soundtrack for "Blade Runner" is absolutely incredible... too bad he never really released it, but you can find a pretty complete "Romanian Bootleg" if you know were to look; a must-have. "Albeido 0.39" is also a classic.

"Electronic Realizations..." "Cords" "Games" by Synergy; "Slaughter on 10th Avenue" pretty much wore out my 8-track tape player way back when.

"Oxygene" JMJ -- cornerstone of techno. Light, airy, catchy stuff.

"Elements" Mychael Danna (wonderful, sweet compositions; not really "pop" per se, they are classically approached. Danna went on to do soundtrack work; this is his first album from the mid-70's)

"Halloween III" soundtrack by John Carpenter. I dunno; a guilty pleasure I guess. I like Carpenter's scary music, and this album, as opposed to some of the others, is not the very memorable main theme every other track, but a little more broad. Soupy, rich analog textures, brassy synthesizer horn-like sounds.

"Ambient 1," "Ambient 4," "Apollo" by Brian Eno. Classics!

Anything by Enya, but especially the first three albums. It's a shame that "Orinoco Flow" was so overplayed at the time, because it's really a fine song.

*POP ELECTRONICS*

_(Not primarily electronic music, but synthesizers get used to good effect)_

"Tubular Bells" who doesn't know about Mike Oldfield? "Hergest Ridge" is a classic, too, but he remixed and ruined it, and you just can't find a copy of the original anymore. "Five Miles Out"; is fun if you've only heard Hall & Oates' version of "Family Man."

Anything by "golden age" YES, but "Close to the Edge" is a real high point for progressive rock. Complex, long compositions that just seem effortless. "YesSongs" for Wakeman's solo...

As for solo albums by YES members, you just have to have Wakeman's "Six Wives..." album, and "Criminal Record" is also a classic. "White Rock" sent me to the store to buy an MS-10 with my allowance, decades ago. Do not begin your Wakeman collection with "No Earthly Connection," an album I've always assumed was a dig at Jon Anderson for "Topographic Oceans."

"Olias of Sunhillow" is one of my favorite albums of all time, yet it's virtually unknown, even being the first solo work of Jon Anderson. It's alien electronic folk, if you can imagine that. My father called it "Chinese music" I think because of Anderson's layered, high-pitched vocals and lots of cymbals and bells. But he recorded it in Vangelis' studio, and you can sorta tell.

Anything by Gentle Giant, but "Octopus" and "Freehand" are incredible. The pieces "Knots" and "On Reflection" got my high school band reading books on music theory to understand counterpoint better.

The band Premiata Forneria Marconi (aka "PFM") has some good stuff, obviously inspired by many of the great 70's bands. "Photos of Ghosts" gets a lot of play here.

Emerson Lake & Palmer ("ELP") surely needs no introduction, nor does their paramount album "Brain Salad Surgery." But don't miss ";Trilogy" either, gentler but very well done.

Genesis: "Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" has some very good moments, 'Carpet Crawlers' being fantastic.

King Crimson: intense, and with attitude, these guys keep going! Check out "Red," and "Discipline" may be their best album ever, with every note a jewel, but for Mellotron second only to 'Six Wives,' you have to have "In The Court of the Crimson King." Recently remastered.

"War of the Worlds" by Jeff Wayne. I didn't want to like this 2-CD set, but I do. I loved the novel, and the George Pal movie, and here's the "rock opera." It dwells too long on certain less-important plot points, but in general it's catchy and moving. After a second listen, you will be humming '...but still they came,' "Forever Autumn," and "Spirit of Man." "Red Weed" sounds like the whole track was recorded with the mod wheel pushed up... weird, but it works.

"Ashes are Burning" & Scheherazade" by Renaissance. Progressive folk. Good stuff. Not prog-Celtic like Steeleye Span (whose 'Below the Salt' is a must-have). Great vocals.

"Trans Europe Express" by Kraftwerk. Gotta have a little Kraftwerk!

"Birdy," "Security" by Peter Gabriel. Larry Fast on keyboards during Gabriel's golden age.

"Eskimo" by the Residents. Love the fresh approach to music these guys take. "George & James" and "Stars & Hank Forever" are classics, too.

"Happy the Man" & "Crafty Hands" by Happy the Man. Boy are these good albums. The first two minutes of "Starborne" just lulls me into some weird, big, dark, empty space that I don't want to leave. Also check out Kit Watkins' solo career on albums such as "Azure," which is fantastic.

"Mister Heartbreak" by Laurie Anderson. Some people hate her for "O Superman," but she really created some unique, landmark works during her career, and this is one of them.

"Fish Rising" by Steve Hillage (of the original 'Gong'). Psychedelic, swirling, Echoplex, mystical lyrics, guitar... a kind of a classic that not many have discovered. Fun album.

"Spartacus" by Triumverat. At the time, many griped "ELP rip-off," but in the dearth of good music that followed for decades, don't we need more good progressive rock? ;)

"The Story of i" by Patrick Moraz. 'Thick' album, needs remastering, ostensibly rushed so that he could work on YES' "Relayer" album, but still has wonderful moments. A very knotted up concept album.

"Glassworks" by Philip Glass. It's true---Koyanisqaatsi is a high point of Western music (and the movie is a must-see, too), but don't miss this collection of "smaller" hypnotic works.

"Winter Songs" by Art Bears, and "In This Life" by Thinking Plague; ReR Records has some weird stuff, like demonic folk music. Unusual scales, attention-getting vocals.

"Low," side 2, by David Bowie. Fabulous, incredible... Brian Eno!

CLASSICAL & SOUNDTRACKS

_(Not electronic, but compositionally inspiring)_

"Aniara" by Karl Birger-Blohmdhal. The REAL 'Space Opera.' Based on the epic poem, now available in English. It actually has three musique concrete sections. I love this work. Just try to find a copy, though, I dare ya! :)

"Pacific 231" by Honnegger . Named after a steam locomotive, sounds like a steam locomotive, but the composer insists it's not program music. If you've heard Tomita's version, hear the original. Excellent stuff.

Anything by Gyorgy Ligeti, but his 'cloud compositions' like "Atmospheres" and "Lux Aeterna," as heard in "2001: A Space Odyssey," are fantastic.

"Concierto para Arpa y Orchesta" by Alberto Ginastera; Wow, fantástico. You've heard ELP's "Toccata," but listen to the energy that an orchestra can have with this piece.

"Horizen" by Jade Warrior, for the "Dune" piece. (ZBS took parts of this album for use in "The Fourth Tower of Inverness" ... if you know what that is, you're a member of a secret elite!) In the same vein, Klaus Schulze's "Dune" has some good moments, more in the "Idiomatic" category.

Anything by Arvo Part... deep mystical, un-rushed choral works.

"Heart of Uncle" by 3 Mustaphas 3; pseudo-meta-para-Middle-Eastern music. This album has a couple of wonderful cuts that you will play over and over, and two or three that you will skip. They put on a fantastic live show, as well... see them in a small club, like the Iron Horse in Amherst, Massachusetts.

"Planet of the Apes," by Jerry Goldsmith. Don't laugh, if this was composed by Pierre Boulez, it would be required listening in every college composition class. As the back-score to a sci-fi monkey movie, it is ignored, but it is incredible, atonal music.

"Beneath the Planet of the Apes" & "Fantastic Voyage" by Leonard Rosenman. Different from Goldsmith's score, but still unique and wonderful. Both are available right now on ERY limited edition pressings from Lukas Kendall's people; grab them!

"Videodrome" by Howard Shore. I think it's Prophet 5 in an organ voicing, but I'm not sure... a hypnotic, washy soundtrack. Great score to read Stanislav Lem's "Solaris" to.

Anything by Bernard Hermann, but ";The Day the Earth Stood Still" for its seminal use of Theremin, ";Journey to the Center of the Earth" for wonderful minor chords and pipe organ, and "7th Voyage of Sinbad" for the best skeleton-fighting music you're likely to hear! Don't miss his great stuff for the original "Twilight Zone" series, too.

I gotta stop now. Did anybody make it to the end...? ;)

Mr. T

On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 10:52 AM, Tkacs, Ken wrote:
>
> "Fish Rising" by Steve Hillage (of the original 'Gong'). Psychedelic, 
> swirling, Echoplex, mystical lyrics, guitar... a kind of a classic 
> that not many have discovered. Fun album.
>
One of my all time favorites. Does anyone have a clue what the
solo instrument is on the Whirling Devish movement? It
sounds like a Hammond run through a fuzz box, but at
times it sounds like it is going into feedback. Maybe
a Hammond through fuzz and some kind of filter?

I know Hillage used a polyphonic guitar synth on "Green,"
but that was a few years later.

TH

Thanks for the wonderful list - it's given me some new music to look 
for!

Here's some comments:

> *IDIOMATIC ELECTRONIC MUSIC*
Anything by Morton Subotnik - his stuff is sure to turn off anybody 
but the hardcore "electronic music" fans.

BT - Bryan Transeau - BT's a dance music/electronica artist that is 
worthing checking it. He's done pop trance, soundtracks, and remix 
type work. I include him here because if you listen closely, the 
sound that he builds his rhythm section from are very much out there -
 they often remind me of Morton Subotnik's sounds, but with dance 
beat.

> *ELECTRONICALLY-REALIZED CLASSICAL*
This whole genre seems to be dead! I think that the opportunistic 
junk put out in the 70's set back this area a great deal. 

Two recent recordings of interest are:

Operatica - Lord Vanger
This recording is of opera standards backed with electronica/world 
beat music. Mildly cheesy, but it's nice to hear some classic works 
rethought.

Pieces in a Modern Style - William Orbit
These are fairly respectfull, conservative electronic reworkings of 
classical standards.


> *ELECTRONIC POP*
Thief - Tangerine Dream
This is a great album with a few 8-10 minute pieces that are 
precursors to a lot of the electronica that has been created in the 
last 10 years or so. Just about any of their albums up to the mid 
80's is worth getting. After that, at least in my opinion, they lost 
their experimental sound and their music sounds bland and overly 
sequenced.

Blade Runner - Vangelis
There is an official soundtrack now. It is different from the 
bootleg, and is a classic album of its type. Avoid the orchestral 
version of this music at all cost!

Other good Vangelis albums are Opera Sauvage, China, & Spiral. 

> "Elements" Mychael Danna 
Danna's music is very likable, because it has serious use of 
electronics within a fairly traditional context. He's very prolific. 
His soundtrack work is memorable. His cd's for Hearts of Space are a 
good place to start with him.


> *POP ELECTRONICS*
QE2- Mike Oldfield
If you like his early stuff, you'd probably like QE2. Also, Ommadawn 
is one of his best works - it's long and heavily influenced by the 
minimal style, but it's got a lot of depth to it.

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "elle_webb <elle_webb@h...>" 
<elle_webb@h...> wrote:
> Thanks for the wonderful list - it's given me some new music to 
look 
> for!
> 
> Here's some comments:
> 
> > *IDIOMATIC ELECTRONIC MUSIC*
> Anything by Morton Subotnik - his stuff is sure to turn off anybody 
> but the hardcore "electronic music" fans.
> 
> BT - Bryan Transeau - BT's a dance music/electronica artist that is 
> worthing checking it. He's done pop trance, soundtracks, and remix 
> type work. I include him here because if you listen closely, the 
> sound that he builds his rhythm section from are very much out 
there -
>  they often remind me of Morton Subotnik's sounds, but with dance 
> beat.
> 
> > *ELECTRONICALLY-REALIZED CLASSICAL*
> This whole genre seems to be dead! I think that the opportunistic 
> junk put out in the 70's set back this area a great deal. 
> 
> Two recent recordings of interest are:
> 
> Operatica - Lord Vanger
> This recording is of opera standards backed with electronica/world 
> beat music. Mildly cheesy, but it's nice to hear some classic works 
> rethought.
> 
> Pieces in a Modern Style - William Orbit
> These are fairly respectfull, conservative electronic reworkings of 
> classical standards.
> 
> 
> > *ELECTRONIC POP*
> Thief - Tangerine Dream
> This is a great album with a few 8-10 minute pieces that are 
> precursors to a lot of the electronica that has been created in the 
> last 10 years or so. Just about any of their albums up to the mid 
> 80's is worth getting. After that, at least in my opinion, they 
lost 
> their experimental sound and their music sounds bland and overly 
> sequenced.
> 
> Blade Runner - Vangelis
> There is an official soundtrack now. It is different from the 
> bootleg, and is a classic album of its type. Avoid the orchestral 
> version of this music at all cost!
> 
> Other good Vangelis albums are Opera Sauvage, China, & Spiral. 
> 
> > "Elements" Mychael Danna 
> Danna's music is very likable, because it has serious use of 
> electronics within a fairly traditional context. He's very 
prolific. 
> His soundtrack work is memorable. His cd's for Hearts of Space are 
a 
> good place to start with him.
> 
> 
> > *POP ELECTRONICS*
> QE2- Mike Oldfield
> If you like his early stuff, you'd probably like QE2. Also, 
Ommadawn 
> is one of his best works - it's long and heavily influenced by the 
> minimal style, but it's got a lot of depth to it.

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "elle_webb <elle_webb@h...>" 
<elle_webb@h...> wrote:
> Thanks for the wonderful list - it's given me some new music to 
look 
> for!
> 
> Here's some comments:
> 
> > *IDIOMATIC ELECTRONIC MUSIC*
> Anything by Morton Subotnik - his stuff is sure to turn off anybody 
> but the hardcore "electronic music" fans.
> 
> BT - Bryan Transeau - BT's a dance music/electronica artist that is 
> worthing checking it. He's done pop trance, soundtracks, and remix 
> type work. I include him here because if you listen closely, the 
> sound that he builds his rhythm section from are very much out 
there -
>  they often remind me of Morton Subotnik's sounds, but with dance 
> beat.
> 
> > *ELECTRONICALLY-REALIZED CLASSICAL*
> This whole genre seems to be dead! I think that the opportunistic 
> junk put out in the 70's set back this area a great deal. 
> 
> Two recent recordings of interest are:
> 
> Operatica - Lord Vanger
> This recording is of opera standards backed with electronica/world 
> beat music. Mildly cheesy, but it's nice to hear some classic works 
> rethought.
> 
> Pieces in a Modern Style - William Orbit
> These are fairly respectfull, conservative electronic reworkings of 
> classical standards.
> 
> 
> > *ELECTRONIC POP*
> Thief - Tangerine Dream
> This is a great album with a few 8-10 minute pieces that are 
> precursors to a lot of the electronica that has been created in the 
> last 10 years or so. Just about any of their albums up to the mid 
> 80's is worth getting. After that, at least in my opinion, they 
lost 
> their experimental sound and their music sounds bland and overly 
> sequenced.
> 
> Blade Runner - Vangelis
> There is an official soundtrack now. It is different from the 
> bootleg, and is a classic album of its type. Avoid the orchestral 
> version of this music at all cost!
> 
> Other good Vangelis albums are Opera Sauvage, China, & Spiral. 
> 
> > "Elements" Mychael Danna 
> Danna's music is very likable, because it has serious use of 
> electronics within a fairly traditional context. He's very 
prolific. 
> His soundtrack work is memorable. His cd's for Hearts of Space are 
a 
> good place to start with him.
> 
> 
> > *POP ELECTRONICS*
> QE2- Mike Oldfield
> If you like his early stuff, you'd probably like QE2. Also, 
Ommadawn 
> is one of his best works - it's long and heavily influenced by the 
> minimal style, but it's got a lot of depth to it.

This is like the holy grail to me - my alltime fave movie and my 
alltime fave soundtrack! I'd give a pint of blood to own this!

If anybody knows where I could get this bootleg, please contact me 
offlist( or is that offworld?)!

Moe

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "elle_webb <elle_webb@h...>" 
<elle_webb@h...> wrote:

> Blade Runner - Vangelis
> There is an official soundtrack now. It is different from the 
> bootleg, and is a classic album of its type. Avoid the orchestral 
> version of this music at all cost!

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "mate_stubb <mate_stubb@y...>" 
<mate_stubb@y...> wrote:
> This is like the holy grail to me - my alltime fave movie and my 
> alltime fave soundtrack! I'd give a pint of blood to own this!
> 
> If anybody knows where I could get this bootleg, please contact me 
> offlist( or is that offworld?)!
> 
> Moe

For those who don't have the official album, it's at Amazon for 
cheap. Get it!

For the bootleg, there's a track listing of one of the more prominent 
bootlegs at:
http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/perki/records/brunner/brunner.html

Most of the tracks overlap the official recording. There are a few 
non-Vangelis tracks included. I've seen these, such as the "Harps of 
the Ancient Temples" track, on Kazaa and other places on the 
Internet. 

"Memories of Green" is an edited version of a track from the cd "See 
You Later". 

You can sign a petition for an "official bootleg" here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/la2019/petition.html

PS: I'll pass on the pint of blood - you're probably not my type!

> > *POP ELECTRONICS*
> QE2- Mike Oldfield
> If you like his early stuff, you'd probably like QE2. Also, Ommadawn
> is one of his best works - it's long and heavily influenced by the
> minimal style, but it's got a lot of depth to it.

And "Crises" !
The long title track with OB-Xa, Quantec QRS and wonderful drum programming.
And "Five Miles Out" !
Love this heavy instrumental playing taking turns with fairy-like vocals.

Oh, and lest I forget: Don Tillman's band Tesseract is worth listening for
anybody who likes prog, too. Don plays a Rhodes Chroma and some Hammond
if memory serves, and there is an electric violin, and the inventor of
Yamaha-style
physical modelling plays his VL-1.

JH.

I've been enjoying this thread as I always do when we start drifting off 
towards music since I always learn something. And I always enjoy Mr. T's and 
Trenkel's stuff since they always have a bunch of things which I recognize 
and like, and a bunch of stuff which I haven't heard before.

I was just listening to a CD by Gong today and I started thinking how few 
bands have done a harder edge rock with electronics (and I'm not thinking of 
Uriah Heep). I guess I'm thinking less prog and more hard rock, and more 
noisy than "keyboardy" -- Crimson, Gong, Pere Ubu, Bowie (Low through Scary 
Monsters), Talking Heads (Remain in Light), Ornette Coleman's Prime Time (Of 
human Feelings), Zappa, Ronald Shannon Jackson's Decoding Society -- these 
all kind of hit the mark at least in some way.

Anyone have any suggestions here?

BTW, for the Eno ambient crowd let me recommend Jon Hassell -- especially his 
"Fourth World vol. 1 Possible Musics" with Brian Eno. Really great music!

JB



In a message dated 3/3/2003 8:56:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
ken.tkacs@... writes:

> *POP ELECTRONICS*
> 
>  _(Not primarily electronic music, but synthesizers get used to good 
> effect)_
> 
>  "Tubular Bells" who doesn't know about Mike Oldfield? "Hergest Ridge" is a 
> classic, too, but he remixed and ruined it, and you just can't find a copy 
> of the original anymore. "Five Miles Out" is fun if you've only heard Hall &
> Oates' version of "Family Man."
> 
>  Anything by "golden age" YES, but "Close to the Edge" is a real high point 
> for progressive rock. Complex, long compositions that just seem effortless. 
> "YesSongs" for Wakeman's solo...
> 
>  As for solo albums by YES members, you just have to have Wakeman's "Six 
> Wives..." album, and "Criminal Record" is also a classic. "White Rock" sent 
> me to the store to buy an MS-10 with my allowance, decades ago. Do not 
> begin your Wakeman collection with "No Earthly Connection," an album I've 
> always assumed was a dig at Jon Anderson for "Topographic Oceans."
> 
>  "Olias of Sunhillow" is one of my favorite albums of all time, yet it's 
> virtually unknown, even being the first solo work of Jon Anderson. It's 
> alien electronic folk, if you can imagine that. My father called it 
> "Chinese music" I think because of Anderson's layered, high-pitched vocals 
> and lots of cymbals and bells. But he recorded it in Vangelis' studio, and 
> you can sorta tell.
> 
>  Anything by Gentle Giant, but "Octopus" and "Freehand" are incredible. The 
> pieces "Knots" and "On Reflection" got my high school band reading books on 
> music theory to understand counterpoint better.
> 
>  The band Premiata Forneria Marconi (aka "PFM") has some good stuff, 
> obviously inspired by many of the great 70's bands. "Photos of Ghosts" gets 
> a lot of play here.
> 
>  Emerson Lake &Palmer ("ELP") surely needs no introduction, nor does their 
> paramount album "Brain Salad Surgery." But don't miss "Trilogy" either, 
> gentler but very well done.
> 
>  Genesis: "Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" has some very good moments, 'Carpet 
> Crawlers' being fantastic.
> 
>  King Crimson: intense, and with attitude, these guys keep going! Check out 
> "Red," and "Discipline" may be their best album ever, with every note a 
> jewel, but for Mellotron second only to 'Six Wives,' you have to have "In 
> The Court of the Crimson King." Recently remastered.
> 
>  "War of the Worlds" by Jeff Wayne. I didn't want to like this 2-CD set, 
> but I do. I loved the novel, and the George Pal movie, and here's the "rock 
> opera." It dwells too long on certain less-important plot points, but in 
> general it's catchy and moving. After a second listen, you will be humming 
> '...but still they came,' "Forever Autumn," and "Spirit of Man." "Red Weed" 
> sounds like the whole track was recorded with the mod wheel pushed up... 
> weird, but it works.
> 
>  "Ashes are Burning" &Scheherazade" by Renaissance. Progressive folk. Good 
> stuff. Not prog-Celtic like  Steeleye Span (whose 'Below the Salt' is a 
> must-have). Great vocals.
> 
>  "Trans Europe Express" by Kraftwerk. Gotta have a little Kraftwerk!
> 
>  "Birdy," "Security" by Peter Gabriel. Larry Fast on keyboards during 
> Gabriel's golden age.
> 
>  "Eskimo" by the Residents. Love the fresh approach to music these guys 
> take. "George &James" and "Stars &Hank Forever" are classics, too.
> 
>  "Happy the Man" &"Crafty Hands" by Happy the Man. Boy are these good 
> albums. The first two minutes of "Starborne" just lulls me into some weird, 
> big, dark, empty space that I don't want to leave. Also check out Kit 
> Watkins' solo career on albums such as "Azure," which is fantastic.
> 
>  "Mister Heartbreak" by Laurie Anderson. Some people hate her for "O 
> Superman," but she really created some unique, landmark works during her 
> career, and this is one of them.
> 
>  "Fish Rising" by Steve Hillage (of the original 'Gong'). Psychedelic, 
> swirling, Echoplex, mystical lyrics, guitar... a kind of a classic that not 
> many have discovered. Fun album.
> 
>  "Spartacus" by Triumverat. At the time, many griped "ELP rip-off," but in 
> the dearth of good music that followed for decades, don't we need more good 
> progressive rock? ;) 
> 
> "The Story of i" by Patrick Moraz. 'Thick' album, needs remastering, 
> ostensibly rushed so that he could work on YES' "Relayer" album, but still 
> has wonderful moments. A very knotted up concept album.
> 
>  "Glassworks" by Philip Glass. It's true---Koyanisqaatsi is a high point of 
> Western music (and the movie is a must-see, too), but don't miss this 
> collection of "smaller" hypnotic works.
> 
>  "Winter Songs" by Art Bears, and "In This Life" by Thinking Plague; ReR 
> Records has some weird stuff, like demonic folk music. Unusual scales, 
> attention-getting vocals.
> 
>  "Low," side 2, by David Bowie. Fabulous, incredible... Brian Eno!
> 
>

For harder edged progressive rock with keyboard emphasis, look for SFF
and Shylock, very "keyboardy" though, in your terms.  Latter 1980's to
1990's Art Zoyd and Univers Zero are some other faves.  Also, Charles
Carpenter released two lps of keyboard microtonal prog rock that remind
me somewhat of King Crimson.
John Loffink
jloffink@...

The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com/

The Wavemakers Modular and Integrated Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com/
I've been enjoying this thread as I always do when we start drifting off
towards music since I always learn something. And I always enjoy Mr. T's
and Trenkel's stuff since they always have a bunch of things which I
recognize and like, and a bunch of stuff which I haven't heard before.

I was just listening to a CD by Gong today and I started thinking how
few bands have done a harder edge rock with electronics (and I'm not
thinking of Uriah Heep). I guess I'm thinking less prog and more hard
rock, and more noisy than "keyboardy" -- Crimson, Gong, Pere Ubu, Bowie
(Low through Scary Monsters), Talking Heads (Remain in Light), Ornette
Coleman's Prime Time (Of human Feelings), Zappa, Ronald Shannon
Jackson's Decoding Society -- these all kind of hit the mark at least in
some way.

Anyone have any suggestions here?

BTW, for the Eno ambient crowd let me recommend Jon Hassell --
especially his "Fourth World vol. 1 Possible Musics" with Brian Eno.
Really great music!

JB


.

Another great one that I almost forgot:  Startled Insects/Curse of the
Pheromones.
John Loffink
jloffink@...

The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com/

The Wavemakers Modular and Integrated Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: John Loffink [mailto:jloffink@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:37 AM
To: jwbarlow@...; MOTM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] OT: Electronic Music Albums
 
For harder edged progressive rock with keyboard emphasis, look for SFF
and Shylock, very "keyboardy" though, in your terms.  Latter 1980's to
1990's Art Zoyd and Univers Zero are some other faves.  Also, Charles
Carpenter released two lps of keyboard microtonal prog rock that remind
me somewhat of King Crimson.
John Loffink
jloffink@...

The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com/

The Wavemakers Modular and Integrated Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com/
I've been enjoying this thread as I always do when we start drifting off
towards music since I always learn something. And I always enjoy Mr. T's
and Trenkel's stuff since they always have a bunch of things which I
recognize and like, and a bunch of stuff which I haven't heard before.

I was just listening to a CD by Gong today and I started thinking how
few bands have done a harder edge rock with electronics (and I'm not
thinking of Uriah Heep). I guess I'm thinking less prog and more hard
rock, and more noisy than "keyboardy" -- Crimson, Gong, Pere Ubu, Bowie
(Low through Scary Monsters), Talking Heads (Remain in Light), Ornette
Coleman's Prime Time (Of human Feelings), Zappa, Ronald Shannon
Jackson's Decoding Society -- these all kind of hit the mark at least in
some way.

Anyone have any suggestions here?

BTW, for the Eno ambient crowd let me recommend Jon Hassell --
especially his "Fourth World vol. 1 Possible Musics" with Brian Eno.
Really great music!

JB


. 




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At 11:54 PM -0500 3/4/03, jwbarlow@... wrote:
>I've been enjoying this thread as I always do when we start drifting 
>off towards music since I always learn something. And I always enjoy 
>Mr. T's and Trenkel's stuff since they always have a bunch of things 
>which I recognize and like, and a bunch of stuff which I haven't 
>heard before.
>
>I was just listening to a CD by Gong today and I started thinking 
>how few bands have done a harder edge rock with electronics (and I'm 
>not thinking of Uriah Heep). I guess I'm thinking less prog and more 
>hard rock, and more noisy than "keyboardy" -- Crimson, Gong, Pere 
>Ubu, Bowie (Low through Scary Monsters), Talking Heads (Remain in 
>Light), Ornette Coleman's Prime Time (Of human Feelings), Zappa, 
>Ronald Shannon Jackson's Decoding Society -- these all kind of hit 
>the mark at least in some way.

Man, I saw both Prime Time and the Decoding Society in the 
early-80's, definitely life-changing experiences!


One thing I found while doing the Minus disc was how good MOTM mixes 
with heavy guitars, the timbres are really complementary, especially 
the 440 filter. I've entertained fantasies about doing a 
modular-heavy prog metal disc, along the lines of Meshuggah 
(incredibly heavy and mathematically precise Swedish band) but with 
modular synths mixed with the guitars. I think it'd be an awesome 
sound!

The current thing I'm doing is leaning more towards early 70's fusion 
(think Bitches Brew/Hancock's Sextant) mixed with hip hop and 
breakbeats, and will definitely feature some of the MOTM. Disc is due 
out this June.

This brings to mind Jeff Beck in the 'Blow by Blow' era.  The SACD 
of 'B b B' is completely amazing.  There's Moog in there disguised as 
a bass :).  Also, Jeff Beck's band with Jan Hammer was pretty darn 
good...

Can't wait to hear the new stuff, Dave!  You'll keep us posted?

Mike

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Dave Trenkel <improv@p...> wrote:
> At 11:54 PM -0500 3/4/03, jwbarlow@a... wrote:
> >I've been enjoying this thread as I always do when we start 
drifting 
> >off towards music since I always learn something. And I always 
enjoy 
> >Mr. T's and Trenkel's stuff since they always have a bunch of 
things 
> >which I recognize and like, and a bunch of stuff which I haven't 
> >heard before.
> >
> >I was just listening to a CD by Gong today and I started thinking 
> >how few bands have done a harder edge rock with electronics (and 
I'm 
> >not thinking of Uriah Heep). I guess I'm thinking less prog and 
more 
> >hard rock, and more noisy than "keyboardy" -- Crimson, Gong, Pere 
> >Ubu, Bowie (Low through Scary Monsters), Talking Heads (Remain in 
> >Light), Ornette Coleman's Prime Time (Of human Feelings), Zappa, 
> >Ronald Shannon Jackson's Decoding Society -- these all kind of hit 
> >the mark at least in some way.
> 
> Man, I saw both Prime Time and the Decoding Society in the 
> early-80's, definitely life-changing experiences!
> 
> 
> One thing I found while doing the Minus disc was how good MOTM 
mixes 
> with heavy guitars, the timbres are really complementary, 
especially 
> the 440 filter. I've entertained fantasies about doing a 
> modular-heavy prog metal disc, along the lines of Meshuggah 
> (incredibly heavy and mathematically precise Swedish band) but with 
> modular synths mixed with the guitars. I think it'd be an awesome 
> sound!
> 
> The current thing I'm doing is leaning more towards early 70's 
fusion 
> (think Bitches Brew/Hancock's Sextant) mixed with hip hop and 
> breakbeats, and will definitely feature some of the MOTM. Disc is 
due 
> out this June.