MOTM

OFFICIAL SYNTHTECH CABLES ??

Sorry, I hate to shout.  BUT,  I am damn excited about NEW patch cables for
MOTM.  One of my goals at NAMM was too hook up with cable manufacturers and
see if I could do something to replace the now failed Wacky Kovacy cable
service with something much better.  Personally, I have 200 Neutrik 1/4
plugs laying here and I cannot bear the thought soldering all those cables
for my own use.  So, I am out to buy cables instead

Here is the scoop.  I visited 4 separate cable vendors.  I told them each I
was looking for 1000 patch cables in the 2, 3 and 4 foot range of various
cable colors and heat shrink colors.  I easily found 8 different cable
colors.  And, I found about 25 different colors / patterns of that very cool
cloth covered cable made by Belden.   I got some VERY competitive generic
quotes.  I plan to send out requests for quotes to these vendors soon.  Here
is what I am thinking:

I will be limiting connectors to Switchcraft 180s or the Neutrik same size
equivalent.
I will be accepting only the top brands of cable.
All cables will have heat shrink, probably covering the plug (you have seen
that)
Heat shrink will probably have the Synth Tech name and logo or MOTM or ??
I am thinking Synth Tech Logos as I want to convince Paul to pay a very
small portion of each cable to have his name on them.  Maybe this will lower
the cost to you a few cents per cable.
Cables and heat shrink will be available in a high variety of colors so that
color combinations could exceed 50 types easily.
I will be looking at cloth-like and non cloth colors.
I want to have 3 or 4 standard lengths.  I am thinking 2, 3 and 4 foot.

I want to bring these in at a good price.  I have one vendor who has already
committed to a price that I could sell for under $6 each (and make enough
profit to be worth my time) for a mix of those 3 lengths.

So, here is what I need from you:

If you are interested in participating in a large group buy of cables, send
me an e-mail.  Tell me this:
How many cables might you be interested in.  That's not a commitment or
limit, just to get an idea so I can have an estimate for the quote requests.
If you are interested in varied colors of cable and heat shrink or just
black
If you are, or are not, interested in the cool retro looking cloth look.
If you are OK with heat shrink about 6 inches long covering the plug and up
the cable.
If you are OK with Synth Tech name / Logo.  Do you prefer MOTM?

If enough of you are interested, I will make a large group purchase of these
cables.  If it goes well, maybe I will even put some in stock.  Maybe the
initial price for those who are on the initial order might be better than
the out of stock price?  Maybe those ordering in the initial order could
even pick their own color / heat shrink combinations.

All this is speculation at this time.  But, I know I can buy nice cables at
Wacky Kovacy price if I can buy a large enough quantity.

So, let me near from you.  It will be up to you to see if this happens.
Larry Hendry

Larry Hendry writes:
>>If you are OK with heat shrink about 6 inches long covering the plug and up
the cable.<<

Be careful with this. I have a bunch of cables like that and with enough cable 
usage the heat strink will slide down when pulling the cable out of a jack. The 
heat strink would probably have to come down infront of the plug to help 
prevent that, but then who knows how well it will seat in the jack, not to 
mention that you won't be able to open up the plug to fix it if needed without 
destroying the heat shrink.

>>If you are, or are not, interested in the cool retro looking cloth look.<<

I could be wrong, but that sounds like typical ugly cloth guitar cable.  When 
will somebody provide glow-in-the-dark patchcords?  I think Horizon makes GID 
cable.

-Elhardt

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, elhardt@a... wrote:
> Larry Hendry writes:
> >>If you are OK with heat shrink about 6 inches long covering the
plug and up
> the cable.<<
> 
> Be careful with this. I have a bunch of cables like that and with
enough cable 
> usage the heat strink will slide down when pulling the cable out of
a jack. The 
> heat strink would probably have to come down infront of the plug to
help 
> prevent that, but then who knows how well it will seat in the jack,
not to 
> mention that you won't be able to open up the plug to fix it if
needed without 
> destroying the heat shrink.
 Mr. Ehlardt:
I don't wish to annoy, but a good heat-shrink sleeve material and
decent  plug/cable connection will not have problems such as you
describe.  I have been using 3-M heat-shrink tubing, Switchcraft 280
plugs, and Belden 9778 cable for years with no difficulties in
applications far more destructive than modular synthesis.

In my estimation, Mr. Hendry-Stooge that he is-can certainly be
trusted  to find an MOTM-worthy supply of patch cables for those
unwilling to make their own.  Personally, I like making patch cords. 
It's a bit like knitting for me.  Very calming-much like stomping an
irritating manager or the like...

Chub-spending way too much time under flourescent light lately.

osthelder writes:
>>I don't wish to annoy, but a good heat-shrink sleeve material and
decent  plug/cable connection will not have problems such as you
describe.  I have been using 3-M heat-shrink tubing, Switchcraft 280
plugs, and Belden 9778 cable for years with no difficulties in
applications far more destructive than modular synthesis.<<

That's probably because the heat-shrink sleeves over my plugs come to an end 
right at the end of the plug shell, so there isn't anything for it to really 
grip onto. Different manufacturers do things in different ways.

-Elhardt

I am certainly wanting to hear all opinions and feedback.  When I ask for
quotes, I also intend to ask for samples so I can treat them mean and see
how they hold up.  This project is for YOU guys IF you are interested.  So,
don't be shy about giving me your $.02 good bad or whatever.
Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: <osthelder@...>
I don't wish to annoy, but a good heat-shrink sleeve material and decent
plug/cable connection will not have problems such as you describe.  I have
been using 3-M heat-shrink tubing, Switchcraft 280 plugs, and Belden 9778
cable for years with no difficulties in applications far more destructive
than modular synthesis.

LH "very cool cloth covered cable made by Belden"
LH "So, don't be shy about giving me your $.02 good bad or whatever."

OK, in that case I think the cloth-covered cables are the bees knees! If the
cost difference is minimal this what I would prefer. It would give that
old-fashioned appliance cord look... Kinda like grandma's toaster!!! Since
Modular Synths have a nostalgic quality why not go for it with the patch
cords too!

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:47 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] Re: PATCH CABLES - You want them?

I am certainly wanting to hear all opinions and feedback.  When I ask for
quotes, I also intend to ask for samples so I can treat them mean and see
how they hold up.  This project is for YOU guys IF you are interested.  So,
don't be shy about giving me your $.02 good bad or whatever.
Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: <osthelder@...>
I don't wish to annoy, but a good heat-shrink sleeve material and decent
plug/cable connection will not have problems such as you describe.  I have
been using 3-M heat-shrink tubing, Switchcraft 280 plugs, and Belden 9778
cable for years with no difficulties in applications far more destructive
than modular synthesis.







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With regards to cloth cables:

I'm not sure if I'd like this or not. Cloth would definitely not 
match my current patch cables.

Where could I see and feel some cable like this?

Moe

Hi,
The cloth cables sound like a cool idea. I wanted to do it myself but 
never got around to ordering the cable (then just plain forgot about 
the idea). How supple are they? How will they hang from the jack? 
Will the heatshrink cause the cable to protrude too much/not enough 
and make the cables get in the way of the controls?

Just some questions...

Peter



--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> I am certainly wanting to hear all opinions and feedback.  When I 
ask for
> quotes, I also intend to ask for samples so I can treat them mean 
and see
> how they hold up.  This project is for YOU guys IF you are 
interested.  So,

> don't be shy about giving me your $.02 good bad or whatever.
> Larry
>