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I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

2003-01-17 by Richard Brewster

The MOTM 120 Suboctave Multiplexer is a cool module for audio processing. I've found a way to use it for control voltage generation too. I DC-coupled the main output so it works with all input frequencies. LFO inputs can produce a 16-step sequence for controlling a VCO pitch, all adjustable with the internal mixer. I used the extra panel space to add five new outputs. There is a pulse output for each of the four suboctaves. These outputs are +/-5V for invertibility. I can use them to gate envelopes at different stages in the sequence. The fifth output is a fixed-level weighted mix of the four suboctaves, range 0 to about +6V. This produces a staircase wave of 16 equal steps when only the A input is used. The cross-product with the B input can produce very interesting patterns. All the new outputs have audio frequency application, as well. This is a simple circuit with just three TL072 op amps (though it does entail a bunch of wiring).
Why would I do this? Well, I am one of those oddballs who does not intend to use a keyboard controller. I am in search of patches that do interesting semi-random things. So I am after sources of stepped voltage to generate pitch sequences, when I am in the mood for "notes". In this same vein, I am planning to build one of Ken Stone's Infinite Melody modules, enhanced with an internal clock and noise source. If you're a DIY type, you should check out Cat Girl Synth.
One day, after I get the full MOTM module complement together and start discovering what it can do, I might just enter one of those "aleatoric" composition contests.
-Richard Brewster

RE: [motm] I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

2003-01-17 by Les Mizzell

You wouldn't care to share the schemos for that mod, would you?
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LFO inputs can produce a 16-step sequence for controlling a VCO pitch, all adjustable with the internal mixer. I used the extra panel space to add five new outputs.

Re: [motm] I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

2003-01-17 by Richard Brewster

I'd be glad to. I still don't have a decent schematic drawing program. Most of the schematic programs I've seen come with PC board layout features I don't need. I've got to find something in this department.
The circuits are so simple that I can just describe them. The pulse outputs are each a simple comparator with the + input of the TL072 op amp coming from a MOTM suboctave output. I just tapped the +5V pulses off the suboctave pots on the MOTM PC board. The minus inputs of all the op amps are tied to a voltage divider between +15V and ground, 100K/10K, for about a 1.5V threshold. The output of each op amp goes through a 3K9/2K2 voltage divider to produce a +/-5V level for the output. The staircase summer just sums each +5V MOTM pulse wave through a weighted resistor. The values I used are 25K, 50K, 100K, 200K (by matching up some 1% resistors). The summer uses a 15K feedback resistor to get output maxed at about -6V. I wasn't concerned about the absolute value, just that the intervals would be equal. The other half of the TL072 doing the summing is used to invert the sum back to positive.
I have a fairly simple patch up right now (I can hear it in the next room). A MOTM 390 dual LFO provides the A and B inputs in cross product mode. I use either mixed output passed through an external scaling attenuator to drive a MOTM 300 and a MOTM 310 VCO patched through a MOTM 440, all on the 1V/Oct inputs so they'll track. Then I take two of the new pulse outputs (the second and third suboctave work well rhythmically) and drive two envelope generators, each of which modulates the center frequency of the MOTM 440 in different directions. You would be amazed at the interesting patterns produced by varying the frequencies of the two LFOs. Now, if I can get going on that recording software! I still can't make MP3 files of my MOTM. It'll happen eventually.
-Richard
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You wouldn't care to share the schemos for that mod, would you?
LFO inputs can produce a 16-step sequence for controlling a VCO pitch, all adjustable with the internal mixer. I used the extra panel space to add five new outputs.

RE:I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

2003-01-17 by mate_stubb <mate_stubb@yahoo.com>

I knew somebody would do this eventually! If there is enough 
interest, maybe we could whip up a Stooge panel so that the extra 
outputs are labelled.

Moe

>>>> 
The MOTM 120 Suboctave Multiplexer is a cool module for audio 
processing.  I've found a way to use it for control voltage 
generation too. 
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Re: I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

2003-01-17 by osthelder <osthelder@netscape.net>

Very nice Richard!  As a fellow non-keyboard "oddball", this 120 mod 
interests me.  Got pictures?  As for the schematic, draw it up and 
take a photo or scan the drawing-I'd love it!  

In the same vein, I've just completed and installed my variation of 
Ken Stone's Psycho LFO.  It has been turned into the Quad Random Gate-
R.  I wanted a stream of psuedo-random pulses that would fire the 
MOTM 800 EG's or the Encore UEG (which I must buy soon!).  The 
circuit board is patterned after 4 of the PLFO's with the level and 
glide removed.  The caps have been increased to slow things down, 
too.  Of course, the finished product is MOTM compatible-electrically 
and (for the most part)aesthetically.  

Ken Stone has some neat ideas on that site!

Chub- "Random is good".

Re: [motm] I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

2003-01-17 by keithw@cix.co.uk

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Could some kind soul sketch this out for me please,
my brain is full.

many thanks 

regards...

Keith

http://home.freeuk.net/lowpass

Re: [motm] Re: I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

2003-01-17 by Richard Brewster

Since there's interest, I will get around to making a web page to describe
this MOTM-120 enhancement and send it to Larry Hendry for display on his
site.  It'll be documented like my Mixer-Comparator module.

http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/users/richard1/mix-comp/mix-comp.htm

This time I will try to produce a better schematic diagram.

-Richard

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> Very nice Richard!  As a fellow non-keyboard "oddball", this 120 mod
> interests me.  Got pictures?  As for the schematic, draw it up and
> take a photo or scan the drawing-I'd love it!
>
> In the same vein, I've just completed and installed my variation of
> Ken Stone's Psycho LFO.  It has been turned into the Quad Random Gate-
> R.  I wanted a stream of psuedo-random pulses that would fire the
> MOTM 800 EG's or the Encore UEG (which I must buy soon!).  The
> circuit board is patterned after 4 of the PLFO's with the level and
> glide removed.  The caps have been increased to slow things down,
> too.  Of course, the finished product is MOTM compatible-electrically
> and (for the most part)aesthetically.
>
> Ken Stone has some neat ideas on that site!
>
> Chub- "Random is good".
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Re: [motm] I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

2003-04-22 by keithw@cix.co.uk

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Hi,

any news on a schematic for the MOTM 120 output mod?
I am quite keen to try this but need the reassurance of a schemo.

many thanks
Keith

http://home.freeuk.net/lowpass

Re: [motm] I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

2003-04-23 by Sikorsky

> any news on a schematic for the MOTM 120 output mod?
> I am quite keen to try this but need the reassurance of a schemo.

same here - a nice formalised modification then we can get larry to crank
out those 1U expander panels !!!

cheers
paul b
sheffield
uk

Re: [motm] I just added 5 more outputs to my MOTM 120

2003-04-24 by pugix@ntelos.net

I'm sorry I have not followed up on this.  It's partly because I don't
have schematic drawing software yet.  I'm away on a trip.  When I return
later this week, if nothing else I will scan the schematic and do a simple
writeup.

Richard Brewster
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>> any news on a schematic for the MOTM 120 output mod?
>> I am quite keen to try this but need the reassurance of a schemo.
>
> same here - a nice formalised modification then we can get larry to
> crank out those 1U expander panels !!!
>
> cheers
> paul b
> sheffield
> uk
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