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2002-10-21 by Chris Walcott
I just did a web search to see if I could find out anything about Concord. I found an address and number in Worcester MA. The phone was disconnected. This would support a previous post that the wire was discontinued. Does anyone have a lead on an existing supply? Does anyone know of a reasonable substitute cable? Again, I'm looking for 1 or 2 conductor, flexible, in colors and a drain wire. Thanks! - chris
2002-10-21 by strohs56k
--- In motm@y..., Chris Walcott <cwalcott@m...> wrote: > I just did a web search to see if I could find out anything about > Concord. I found an address and number in Worcester MA. The phone > was disconnected. This would support a previous post that the wire > was discontinued. I think it is "Conquest" that makes the USA-1 cable, not "Concord" ? See here: http://www.conquestsound.com I think you are confusing this with the Gotham cable that Eldhart was referring to - the versions with colored jackets are discontinued but black is still available. > Again, I'm looking for 1 or 2 conductor, flexible, in colors and a > drain wire. A drain wire normally implies a foil shield, which normally implies a not particularly flexible cable. A cable with a spiral shield should be almost as easy to terminate as cable with a drain wire - cable with braided shields are obviously a little more work because you have to unbraid them. In general - Canare and Mogami both make nice flexible cables and are usually available in various colors. Canare cables tend to use a braided shield where Mogami uses a spiral shield.
2002-10-21 by Paul Schreiber
DOH!!!! That's the ones. Paul S.
> > I think it is "Conquest" that makes the USA-1 cable, not "Concord" ? > See here: > > http://www.conquestsound.com > >
2002-10-21 by groovyshaman@snet.net
Wow, take a look at Conquest's "Conqueror" woven braded cables! http://www.conquestsound.com/images/products/guitar/braid.jpg Note however, I checked around and these woven cables are *brutally* expensive - I think they want to conquer our wallet! (they sure are pretty though) George ----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>; strohs56k <strohs@...> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [motm] Re: concord usa-1 > DOH!!!! > > That's the ones. > > Paul S. > > > > > I think it is "Conquest" that makes the USA-1 cable, not "Concord" ? > > See here: > > > > http://www.conquestsound.com > >
2002-10-21 by Tentochi
I believe Paul does not have any plans in the next year or two of releasing a joystick. I also know that many people were interested in Grant's joystick, but he quickly sold all ten or so he created (and kept one for himself?). Well, it appears that the DIY joystick is back with an MOTM connector stock (as of 10/17/02). Unfortunately it comes with either a Frac-Rac FP (1209B-US$90) or a stand-alone unit (1209S-US$199)--both with non-1/4". Stooge panels for this? Anyway to do a custom order before the next regular batch somehow??? Would Grant be willing to do an MOTM version kit? No FP, no jacks, no button. Check it out: http://www.wiard.com (Yes, it is right on the front page!) Cheers! Shemp --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site
2002-10-21 by Dave Hylander
At 03:02 PM 10/21/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I believe Paul does not have any plans in the next year or two of >releasing a joystick. I also know that many people were interested in >Grant's joystick, but he quickly sold all ten or so he created (and kept >one for himself?). Well, it appears that the DIY joystick is back with an >MOTM connector stock (as of 10/17/02). Unfortunately it comes with either >a Frac-Rac FP (1209B-US$90) or a stand-alone unit (1209S-US$199)--both >with non-1/4". I bought one from the original run of these, and it is a nice joystick. I mounted the Frac panel in a small rosewood box I made, added a 10' tether cord with 1/4" plugs for the gate, x,y, and power. $100 total, and I like the freedom of moving around with it. -dave- http://www.hylander.com
2002-10-22 by elhardt@att.net
Before I bought my Gotham cable, I searched around for Canare. The prices were outrageous. One place only sold it by the spool (200 meters), and even in that quantity it was still $600 for a spool. That's three times the price of Gotham. And Gotham was already pricy compared to other cable. In my process of trying to find any remaining colored Gotham cable on this continent, I talked to the Canadian Gotham dealer. He sold some other color cable that was a really good price but he wouldn't tell me the brand. He is one source I've kept in the back of my mind should I need color cable cheap, or if anyone else does, check him out. You'll need to search Gotham site for dealer names. If anybody ends up buying USA-1 or Canare cable, please post to the list where you got it. Neither of them are easy to find, and some places just sell black. -Elhardt
2002-10-22 by strohs56k
--- In motm@y..., elhardt@a... wrote: > > If anybody ends up buying USA-1 or Canare cable, please post to the > list where you got it. Neither of them are easy to find, and some > places just sell black. Markertek (a "broadcast supply" company) stocks Canare and Mogami cable - and Gepco and Belden. They sell the more popular types by the foot and have price breaks if you buy a full reel. They usually stock at least some of the available colors for a particular cable type. They have reasonable prices for Neutrik connectors, etc. I have purchase raw cable and connectors from these guys in the past. (I believe there is a per order minimum - something like $50.) The Canare L-2T2S that someone had mentioned: http://www.markertek.com/MTStore/product.CFM?BaseItem=L%2D2T2S+BK The "famous" Canare L-4E6S "star quad" microphone cable: http://www.markertek.com/MTStore/product.CFM?BaseItem=L%2D4E6S+BK The Mogami 2792 that I had mentioned: http://www.markertek.com/MTStore/product.CFM?BaseItem=2792 Neutrik 1/4" connectors: http://www.markertek.com/MTStore/product.CFM?BaseItem=NP2C Neutrik Ethernet connectors :) http://www.markertek.com/MTStore/product.CFM?BaseItem=NE8MC I think I read somewhere that Paul had dreamed up some kind of modular synthesizer that was going to use Ethernet to interconnect the modules? Seth
2002-10-22 by Chris Walcott
-----Original Message-----Before I bought my Gotham cable, I searched around for Canare. The prices were
From: elhardt@... [mailto:elhardt@...]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:33 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] concord usa-1
outrageous. One place only sold it by the spool (200 meters), and even in that
quantity it was still $600 for a spool. That's three times the price of Gotham.
And Gotham was already pricy compared to other cable. In my process of trying
to find any remaining colored Gotham cable on this continent, I talked to the
Canadian Gotham dealer. He sold some other color cable that was a really good
price but he wouldn't tell me the brand. He is one source I've kept in the back
of my mind should I need color cable cheap, or if anyone else does, check him
out. You'll need to search Gotham site for dealer names.
If anybody ends up buying USA-1 or Canare cable, please post to the list where
you got it. Neither of them are easy to find, and some places just sell black.
-Elhardt
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2002-10-24 by elhardt@att.net
Seth writes: >>Markertek (a "broadcast supply" company) stocks Canare and Mogami cable<< Thanks for the info. The problem is the cable you gave links for is two line balanced type cable, which is used for XLR or stereo jacks. That kind of cable always seems a lot easier to find than normal single line audio cable you'd want to used for patchcords and standard audio connections. -Elhardt
2002-10-24 by Sikorsky
hello all, i've not really been following this thread, so i hate to cause controversy at such a late stage, but: > Just connect both wires to the tip. Most of my cables with unbalanced > connectors use "balanced" cable. the chap who i generally run to for advice (he installed Genesis' studio in 70's, helped upgrade the studio where i work) taught me to wire un-balanced connections with balanced cable by splicing the 'spare' signal wire with the drain wire / screen. i think this helps with noise rejection a little more - though i couldn't really say... cheers paul b (ducking)
2002-10-24 by media.nai@rcn.com
>Thanks for the info. The problem is the cable you gave links for is two >>line balanced type cable, which is used for XLR or stereo jacks. >That kind of cable always seems a lot easier to find than normal single >>line audio cable you'd want to used for patchcords and standard audio >>connections. Just connect both wires to the tip. Most of my cables with unbalanced connectors use "balanced" cable.
2002-10-25 by media.nai@rcn.com
>the chap who i generally run to for advice (he installed Genesis' studio in >70's, helped upgrade the studio where i work) taught me to wire un-balanced >connections with balanced cable by splicing the 'spare' signal wire with >>the drain wire / screen. i think this helps with noise rejection a little >>more - though i couldn't really say... That would be truly awful if the center conductors were a twisted pair, and I can't see how connecting one of them to the drain would help with noise rejection even if they weren't -- the drain/shield already has a lower impedance than the center conductors. >Not to mention that I've seen some balanced cable that doesn't bend/droop >>naturally and/or has a bit of a lumpy shape because of the twisted pair >>inside. Sure there are many "balanced" cables with terrible flex. Some of them are designed to be run through walls, and some of them simply use cheap jackets. There are also plenty of single wire cables with terrible flex. However, there is no reason why a well designed coaxial cable using more than one center conductor can't be flexible. For example, Mink-4 uses two twisted pairs and a 98% braided shield with a drain wire, but it's one of the slinkiest, tangle-free, easy-to-drape cables I've ever used.