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MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

2002-09-25 by Richard Brewster

I've been tossing this about in my mind.  I really like the idea of the OMS-820 module enhancement to the MOTM-820.  But, being the "panel density" freak that I am, I was wondering if I could stuff these two behind one custom 2U panel.  I would lose a bit of the total features of both modules in the 3U format, but I would pick the panel features I'm most interested in.  I have not decide these exactly, yet.  But I could do without the bypass switch and light on the MOTM and the gate and reset buttons on the OMS for starters.  The extra output jacks on the MOTM could be replaced by the gate and reset inputs of the OMS.  I would rearrange it all.
 
The panel would be my own design, and I would get it custom made, maybe by Schaeffer. (I don't want to wait for the next Stooge panel order).  I don't know how the Oakley board would fit behind the panel, but since it is inverse in symmetry from the MOTM board, both boards might both actually fit to the panel.  The left side of the panel would match the OMS panel design almost exactly, including the lights, but with jacks where the two pushbuttons are located.  I would need to mount the MOTM board with a Stooge bracket, since the MOTM bracket uses standoffs embedded in the MOTM panel.
 
I would like to build two of them.  My plan is to purchase two MOTM 820's and two OMS-820 boards and parts.  At that point I could look everything over and decide on the panel strategy.  It could possibly fail to fit, and I'd be left with 6U of real estate instead of 4U.
 
I was wonder what everyone thought about this somewhat hare-brained idea.  The panels would be costly, but I would need panels for the OMS-820's anyway.
 
Richard Brewster
 

RE: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

2002-09-25 by Brousseau, Paul E (Paul)

Er, he wanted a custom 2U panel, not customer 3U.  <snicker, nyuk, etc.>
 
--PBr
-----Original Message-----
From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:12 PM
To: MOTM List
Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

Richard,   Your idea looks do-able to me.  Certainly from a fit behind the panel perspective there would be plenty of room behind a 3U panel.

Re: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

2002-09-25 by J. Larry Hendry

Richard,   Your idea looks do-able to me.  Certainly from a fit behind the panel perspective there would be plenty of room behind a 3U panel.  The Stooge 4-pot short bracket is an exact fit to the MOTM-820 PCB including all the holes in the right places.  The OMS-820 PCB will fit on many of my brackets (PCB mount hole drilling required).
 
Sadly, the one thing we cannot do (providing a 3U panels for less than $30) is quick.  We rely on volume to keep prices down. Which means waiting for ordering in large groups.  Schaeffer is no doubt the way to go. 
 
I am not sure you would have to give up features.  As I see it, a 3U panel with the MOTM-820 and OMS 820 would have room for 16 jacks on the bottom 3 rows and up to 9 pots/controls.  That is more than the current MOTM-820 and stand along OMS-820 1U Stooge panel (which of course has only the features implemented that fit into 1U).
 
I assume that your desire for a 3U panel comes from wanting different features that those implemented in the Stooge 1U OMS-820 add on which would yield 3U total.
 
Larry Hendry
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:27 PM
Subject: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

I've been tossing this about in my mind.  I really like the idea of the OMS-820 module enhancement to the MOTM-820.  But, being the "panel density" freak that I am, I was wondering if I could stuff these two behind one custom 2U panel.  I would lose a bit of the total features of both modules in the 3U format, but I would pick the panel features I'm most interested in.  I have not decide these exactly, yet.  But I could do without the bypass switch and light on the MOTM and the gate and reset buttons on the OMS for starters.  The extra output jacks on the MOTM could be replaced by the gate and reset inputs of the OMS.  I would rearrange it all.
 
The panel would be my own design, and I would get it custom made, maybe by Schaeffer. (I don't want to wait for the next Stooge panel order).  I don't know how the Oakley board would fit behind the panel, but since it is inverse in symmetry from the MOTM board, both boards might both actually fit to the panel.  The left side of the panel would match the OMS panel design almost exactly, including the lights, but with jacks where the two pushbuttons are located.  I would need to mount the MOTM board with a Stooge bracket, since the MOTM bracket uses standoffs embedded in the MOTM panel.
 
I would like to build two of them.  My plan is to purchase two MOTM 820's and two OMS-820 boards and parts.  At that point I could look everything over and decide on the panel strategy.  It could possibly fail to fit, and I'd be left with 6U of real estate instead of 4U.
 
I was wonder what everyone thought about this somewhat hare-brained idea.  The panels would be costly, but I would need panels for the OMS-820's anyway.
 
Richard Brewster
 


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Re: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

2002-09-25 by J. Larry Hendry

Of course, Imeant 3U as indicated in the text. Hey! I'm just a stooge.
You cannot expect me to get it all right.
:)
LH

----- Original Message -----
From: J. Larry Hendry
To: MOTM List
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?


Richard, Your idea looks do-able to me. Certainly from a fit behind the
panel perspective there would be plenty of room behind a 3U panel. The
Stooge 4-pot short bracket is an exact fit to the MOTM-820 PCB including all
the holes in the right places. The OMS-820 PCB will fit on many of my
brackets (PCB mount hole drilling required).

Sadly, the one thing we cannot do (providing a 3U panels for less than $30)
is quick. We rely on volume to keep prices down. Which means waiting for
ordering in large groups. Schaeffer is no doubt the way to go.

I am not sure you would have to give up features. As I see it, a 3U panel
with the MOTM-820 and OMS 820 would have room for 16 jacks on the bottom 3
rows and up to 9 pots/controls. That is more than the current MOTM-820 and
stand along OMS-820 1U Stooge panel (which of course has only the features
implemented that fit into 1U).

I assume that your desire for a 3U panel comes from wanting different
features that those implemented in the Stooge 1U OMS-820 add on which would
yield 3U total.

Larry Hendry

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Brewster
To: MOTM List
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:27 PM
Subject: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?


I've been tossing this about in my mind. I really like the idea of the
OMS-820 module enhancement to the MOTM-820. But, being the "panel density"
freak that I am, I was wondering if I could stuff these two behind one
custom 2U panel. I would lose a bit of the total features of both modules
in the 3U format, but I would pick the panel features I'm most interested
in. I have not decide these exactly, yet. But I could do without the
bypass switch and light on the MOTM and the gate and reset buttons on the
OMS for starters. The extra output jacks on the MOTM could be replaced by
the gate and reset inputs of the OMS. I would rearrange it all.

The panel would be my own design, and I would get it custom made, maybe by
Schaeffer. (I don't want to wait for the next Stooge panel order). I don't
know how the Oakley board would fit behind the panel, but since it is
inverse in symmetry from the MOTM board, both boards might both actually fit
to the panel. The left side of the panel would match the OMS panel design
almost exactly, including the lights, but with jacks where the two
pushbuttons are located. I would need to mount the MOTM board with a Stooge
bracket, since the MOTM bracket uses standoffs embedded in the MOTM panel.

I would like to build two of them. My plan is to purchase two MOTM 820's
and two OMS-820 boards and parts. At that point I could look everything
over and decide on the panel strategy. It could possibly fail to fit, and
I'd be left with 6U of real estate instead of 4U.

I was wonder what everyone thought about this somewhat hare-brained idea.
The panels would be costly, but I would need panels for the OMS-820's
anyway.

Richard Brewster



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Re: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

2002-09-26 by Richard Brewster

Right.  I want to put the MOTM-820 and OMS-820 together in one 2U panel.
 
-Richard
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:06 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

Er, he wanted a custom 2U panel, not customer 3U.  <snicker, nyuk, etc.>
 
--PBr
 

Re: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

2002-09-26 by J. Larry Hendry

Duh!  Someone smack me with a 2x4.  Still very doable.  You only need 1 output jack, ditch the bypass and make one other small CV concession (your choice) and you are set.  The behind the panels stuff will fit with Stooge brackets.
:)
Larry
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

Right.  I want to put the MOTM-820 and OMS-820 together in one 2U panel.
 
-Richard
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:06 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

Er, he wanted a custom 2U panel, not customer 3U.  <snicker, nyuk, etc.>
 
--PBr
 


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Re: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?

2002-09-27 by Richard Brewster

I am going ahead with this project. I downloaded Schaeffer's CAD software

http://www.schaeffer-apparatebau.de/English/index.htm

and the OMS-820 panel design for it. It did not take long to design a 2U
panel that combines the OMS-820 and MOTM-820. I did not have to make any CV
concessions. Omitted from the MOTM panel is the LED, bypass switch, and two
of the output jacks. Omitted from the OMS-820 are the two pushbuttons. All
other panel features are retained. The two boards will fit behind the panel,
each on a separate Stooge bracket. If anyone is interested in my Schaeffer
panel, reply off list to me and I will send you the file.

-Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: J. Larry Hendry
To: MOTM List
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?


Duh! Someone smack me with a 2x4. Still very doable. You only need 1
output jack, ditch the bypass and make one other small CV concession (your
choice) and you are set. The behind the panels stuff will fit with Stooge
brackets.
:)
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Brewster
To: MOTM List ; Brousseau, Paul E (Paul)
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-820 and OMS-820 behind one 2U panel?


Right. I want to put the MOTM-820 and OMS-820 together in one 2U panel.

-Richard