MOTM

Not that I am counting, but that 4 votes for flood insurance and 0 for
desert storm (dry spell created by sequencer R & D). hehe  Larry H
---------------------------------

From: "J. Larry Hendry"
As this seems to be a place where one expresses opinions
with votes, I cast one vote for the flood including the:

> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
> The new release order looks like:
> Triple Preamp
> Envelope Follower
> SSM2040 clone - 4 pole LPF with VC Q and
> a special treat
> Mixer

AND, the 310 VCO before a dry spell associated with
the long R&D time of the sequencer.
(also some kind person reminded me of the new VCA)
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From: "joe.pavone" <fuzztone@...>

Did somebody say vote?

OK, I'll cast mine for the winter flood of modules first and
 the sequencer later.

The sequencer sounds like it has real potential but
I think more modules sooner is better for the motm
"system"  - and it's users.
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From: "Tentochi" <tentochi@...>

I agree with Joe.  More modules first; the sequencer
can wait a long time for me...
--Todd

Chant with me people:  FLOOD, FLOOD, FLOOD, FLOOD, ...
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From: "james holloway" <jimh54@...>

I agree, It's been pretty dry lately since the 420 came out.
I can only tolerate about 1 month before the withdrawl
symptoms start. FEED ME...FEED  ME!!!

My 2 cents:

I could go either way-the sequencer sounds incredible and I'm definitely
interested, and since I'm new to MOTM (built my first module-the power
supply-last night, hooray! VCO starts tonight), there are plenty of existing
modules for me to collect during the dry spell. OTOH, that Envelope Follower
and a 1u lin/exp VCA are high on my wish list...

		

		Not that I am counting, but that 4 votes for flood insurance
and 0 for
		desert storm (dry spell created by sequencer R & D). hehe
Larry H

I vote for starting on the sequencer ASAP. The only thing I'm desperate for
is the SSM filter.

Keep in mind that desert storm will come anyway, since the sequencer design
is a BIG job. Personally, I'd rate its priority higher than the new VCO or
VCA, because we already have VCOs and VCAs. Historically, each and every
module delivered has been 6-8 weeks, and a VCO takes longer to get right. If
we ding Paul to death with this new module or that, he'll never get started.
In my business, we call it "death by feature creep". The MOTM system needs a
sequencer, and a kick butt one, to distinguish itself from the competition.

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:25 AM
> To: motm@onelist.com
> Subject: [motm] MOTM flood or dry ?
>
>
> From: "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...>
>
> Not that I am counting, but that 4 votes for flood insurance and 0 for
> desert storm (dry spell created by sequencer R & D). hehe  Larry H
> ---------------------------------
> From: "J. Larry Hendry"
> As this seems to be a place where one expresses opinions
> with votes, I cast one vote for the flood including the:
>
> > From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
> > The new release order looks like:
> > Triple Preamp
> > Envelope Follower
> > SSM2040 clone - 4 pole LPF with VC Q and
> > a special treat
> > Mixer
>
> AND, the 310 VCO before a dry spell associated with
> the long R&D time of the sequencer.
> (also some kind person reminded me of the new VCA)
> ---------------------------------------------------
> From: "joe.pavone" <fuzztone@...>
>
> Did somebody say vote?
>
> OK, I'll cast mine for the winter flood of modules first and
>  the sequencer later.
>
> The sequencer sounds like it has real potential but
> I think more modules sooner is better for the motm
> "system"  - and it's users.
> ------------------------------------------------------
> From: "Tentochi" <tentochi@...>
>
> I agree with Joe.  More modules first; the sequencer
> can wait a long time for me...
> --Todd
>
> Chant with me people:  FLOOD, FLOOD, FLOOD, FLOOD, ...
> -----------------------------------------------------
> From: "james holloway" <jimh54@...>
>
> I agree, It's been pretty dry lately since the 420 came out.
> I can only tolerate about 1 month before the withdrawl
> symptoms start. FEED ME...FEED  ME!!!
>
>
>
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One more vote for more modules, high up on my wish list being the uVCO.

tomr

Hey all you flood victims -

<soapbox on>

I think the term "flood" is a misnomer. Even though Paul is talking about 1
unit modules instead of 2 unit, it doesn't mean that we are going to see a
significantly faster release cycle. There is too much fixed overhead time
for each module.

You have to do the basic R&D first. This is typically less for a simple
module, but Paul usually has breadboarded circuits cooking while other
modules are being packaged for release, so I don't see this as a big gain
timewise. The only new module not already cooking that wouldn't require some
R&D time would be the 1 U mult. The R&D on the sequencer will be the longest
and most complex yet.

Next you have to nail down the design with rigorous testing. In the case of
a micro VCO or new VCA design, it will take a lot of time (though not as
much as the 300 did!)

Layout the pcb, get a test fab for verification, build it, gather parts
lists, order parts (crap! have to wait for pots again!), do the panel
artwork, factor in lead time for panels and fabs to come back, etc etc. This
is where most of the built in delay is.

Add year end holidays, real job demands, etc. into the equation. I'm not
trying to be a pooper of parties here, just realistic. Let's admit it, we're
greedy. We want the world and we want it ... now.  I don't want Paul to burn
out!

<soapbox off>

So don't be expecting 6 new modules by year's end - Paul is only human. Of
course, he can speak for himself, and may tell me I'm full of !@#$<g>.

Moe

Well, I'm pretty sure I can do 6 by the end of the year (not counting the
'410/'320)

Paul S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Bradley <daveb@...>
To: motm@onelist.com <motm@onelist.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: [motm] MOTM flood or dry ?


>From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...>
>
>Hey all you flood victims -
>
><soapbox on>
>
>I think the term "flood" is a misnomer. Even though Paul is talking about 1
>unit modules instead of 2 unit, it doesn't mean that we are going to see a
>significantly faster release cycle. There is too much fixed overhead time
>for each module.
>
>You have to do the basic R&D first. This is typically less for a simple
>module, but Paul usually has breadboarded circuits cooking while other
>modules are being packaged for release, so I don't see this as a big gain
>timewise. The only new module not already cooking that wouldn't require
some
>R&D time would be the 1 U mult. The R&D on the sequencer will be the
longest
>and most complex yet.
>
>Next you have to nail down the design with rigorous testing. In the case of
>a micro VCO or new VCA design, it will take a lot of time (though not as
>much as the 300 did!)
>
>Layout the pcb, get a test fab for verification, build it, gather parts
>lists, order parts (crap! have to wait for pots again!), do the panel
>artwork, factor in lead time for panels and fabs to come back, etc etc.
This
>is where most of the built in delay is.
>
>Add year end holidays, real job demands, etc. into the equation. I'm not
>trying to be a pooper of parties here, just realistic. Let's admit it,
we're
>greedy. We want the world and we want it ... now.  I don't want Paul to
burn

>out!
>
><soapbox off>
>
>So don't be expecting 6 new modules by year's end - Paul is only human. Of
>course, he can speak for himself, and may tell me I'm full of !@#$<g>.
>
>Moe
>
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It's true.  There is a Santa Claus.  :)

Oh, one other thing to put on the wish list (not expected by Christmas).  I
remember some discussion some time ago for a simple inverting attenuator.

LH

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> From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> To: motm@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM flood or dry ?
> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 12:06 PM
> 
> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
> 
> Well, I'm pretty sure I can do 6 by the end of the year (not counting the
> '410/'320)
> 
> Paul S.