MOTM

Really? The conventional wisdom from my shop days was that particle board
was much stronger than an equivalent thickness of plywood, warped less, and
had a smoother surface upon which to laminate different coverings. That's
why it's used in so much 'cheapie' furniture, bookcases, etc. (okay, it
costs less, too).

I'd rather NOT work with particle board, as it tends to dull saw blades like
crazy.

>>>WHY PARTICLE BOARD


>>>Antique Electronics in AZ carries Tolex at $10.00 a foot

(by 54" wide). They
are at www.tubesandmore.com or 602-820-


Thanks for the tip!

My $.02 forget particle board. Get a good grade of plywood. Also note
that some plywood thickness (particularly the thin ones) are available in
varied construction layers. The more layers, the better. for example, you
can get 1/2 plywood in 3 layers of 5. Warp? Sure, the cheap stuff (3
layer CDX) that is sometimes used for roofing will, but not the good stuff.
Larry H


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> From: Tkacs, Ken <Ken.Tkacs@...>
> To: 'motm@onelist.com'
> Subject: RE: [motm] Plywood vs. Particle (was Tolex)
> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 7:50 AM
>
> From: "Tkacs, Ken" <Ken.Tkacs@...>
>
>
> Really? The conventional wisdom from my shop days was that particle board
> was much stronger than an equivalent thickness of plywood, warped less,

and

> had a smoother surface upon which to laminate different coverings. That's
> why it's used in so much 'cheapie' furniture, bookcases, etc. (okay, it
> costs less, too).
>
> I'd rather NOT work with particle board, as it tends to dull saw blades

like

> crazy.
>
> >>>WHY PARTICLE BOARD
>
>
> >>>Antique Electronics in AZ carries Tolex at $10.00 a foot
> (by 54" wide). They
> are at www.tubesandmore.com or 602-820-
>
>
> Thanks for the tip!
>
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Thanks for the wisdom. I'll see what kinds of plywood "Home Depot" carries
this weekend. Boy, after looking at the photos from "T.J."'s post this
morning, I'm wishing I could build a nice big MOTM console out of a fine
wood. That sure looks gorgeous. But I really need my cases to be moderately
road-worthy (not heavy gigging-just moving between my studio & a friend's).

I have a Korg CX-3 organ that I never brought on the road-home/studio use
only. But after 15 years of just moving it from this room to that room and
three different houses, that beautiful wood cabinet has visible knicks in it
that drive me *wild*. All of my machines are in mint condition except the
CX-3, and solely because of the wood case. That's why I'm afraid to use good
wood for anything that has to see the inside of my trunk six times a year.

Lastly, I think multiple smaller cabinets (ala Moog IIIp) will work better
for me than a huge console since I tend to reconfigure the studio from time
to time and it's always a 'magic square' puzzle. I'm currently thinking
along the lines of cases that hold two rows of MOTM modules with a 3u row
along the bottom. This 3u extra space can be used for 19" devices (like a
Kenton, delay unit, etc.), or in some cabinets could hold a Frac Rack.
Mostly, I'm thinking of a Row of 3u high "service modules" that I will
tinker together. The whole thing probably WILL end up looking like a IIIp
when I'm done with it.

I think it's very interesting to see & hear how others are enclosing their
MOTM modules.



My $.02 forget particle board. Get a good grade of plywood.
Also note
that some plywood thickness (particularly the thin ones) are
available in
varied construction layers. The more layers, the better.
for example, you
can get 1/2 plywood in 3 layers of 5. Warp? Sure, the
cheap stuff (3
layer CDX) that is sometimes used for roofing will, but not
the good stuff.
Larry H

Sadly, Lowe's & The Depot have pretty much put all other suppliers in my
area out of business.



If you *avoid* Lowes/Home Depot, you can get birch plywood.
This can have up to 16 (!) layers.

If you *avoid* Lowes/Home Depot, you can get birch plywood. This can have up
to
16 (!) layers. Used it for my wood cases in college: across the street from
my dad's business
was a pipe-organ builder!

Paul S.


-----Original Message-----
From: J. Larry Hendry <jlarryh@...>
To: motm@onelist.com <motm@onelist.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] Plywood vs. Particle (was Tolex)

>From: "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...>
>
>My $.02 forget particle board. Get a good grade of plywood. Also note
>that some plywood thickness (particularly the thin ones) are available in
>varied construction layers. The more layers, the better. for example, you
>can get 1/2 plywood in 3 layers of 5. Warp? Sure, the cheap stuff (3
>layer CDX) that is sometimes used for roofing will, but not the good stuff.
>Larry H
>
>
>----------
>> From: Tkacs, Ken <Ken.Tkacs@...>
>> To: 'motm@onelist.com'
>> Subject: RE: [motm] Plywood vs. Particle (was Tolex)
>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 7:50 AM
>>
>> From: "Tkacs, Ken" <Ken.Tkacs@...>
>>
>>
>> Really? The conventional wisdom from my shop days was that particle board
>> was much stronger than an equivalent thickness of plywood, warped less,
>and
>> had a smoother surface upon which to laminate different coverings. That's
>> why it's used in so much 'cheapie' furniture, bookcases, etc. (okay, it
>> costs less, too).
>>
>> I'd rather NOT work with particle board, as it tends to dull saw blades
>like
>> crazy.
>>
>> >>>WHY PARTICLE BOARD
>>
>>
>> >>>Antique Electronics in AZ carries Tolex at $10.00 a foot
>> (by 54" wide). They
>> are at www.tubesandmore.com or 602-820-
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the tip!
>>
>> --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ----------------------------
>>
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My $.02:

When I built some temporary cases for my modular gear, I found an even
better solution than plywood were 7" pine boards. Especially if you're
buying Depot crap plywood I think you'll find these a much sturdier
choice! Just remember to look lengthwise to fine the most un-warped
pieces.

Andrew

-| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@... |-

> I think it's very interesting to see & hear how others are enclosing their
> MOTM modules.

Not terribly sexy, but I'm using a SKB pop-up mixer case, as recommended by
Paul to keep out the dust and cat/dog hair in my home. Unfortunately, I can
never bring myself to close it up :) What?! Unpatch?! Never!!

I think I'm going to eventually build a nice "home" case for it and keep the
pop-up case for gigging--I'll configure the home case so that the rails can
be easily removed and rows can be lifted out and placed into the pop-up
case. That pop-up case takes up a LOT of desk/counter/floor space!

David.