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Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by Paul Schreiber

Looking to expand my CD collection in 2 areas:

1) Need some more (sigh) techno/dance/less-than-26-years-old music. I have
some Orbital, Chemical Bros, M.B.F. but those are so like "yesterday"!
Suggestions?

2) Need music to MOTM by (ie as I design/debug). Here are my currents faves:

a) R. Wakeman: 6 Wives of Henry the Eighth (uplifting & depressing, since RW
was 19yrs old when he did this!)
b) Enya- Shepard Moons
c) any and all Pat Metheny (new CD w/Jim Hall is wonderful)
d) Modern Jazz Quartet - Last Concert (defines "tight playing" forever. Not
possible to play together any better.)
e) Any Robert Rich
f) any Steve Roach

As you may tell, like softer, "ambient" sort of stuff, but not "Starbuck
Coffee" junk (Indian flutes, rainforest, whales)

Paul S.

Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by J. Larry Hendry

> 2) Need music to MOTM by (ie as I design/debug). Here are my currents
faves:
> a) R. Wakeman: 6 Wives of Henry the Eighth (uplifting & depressing, since
RW
> was 19yrs old when he did this!)

MASSIVE recording. One of my favs. Also check out Wakeman's new age (no
rainforest) "The Family Album."

And if you can find it: Gypsy. "In the Garden" (out of print) E-mail me
if you can't find it.

LH

Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by steve

At 11:37 PM 9/13/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
>Looking to expand my CD collection in 2 areas:
>
>1) Need some more (sigh) techno/dance/less-than-26-years-old music. I have
>some Orbital, Chemical Bros, M.B.F. but those are so like "yesterday"!
>Suggestions?

i can cover both bases here:

the young kid music...get daft punk's "homework" this is very creative.

great music to do things to and feel young again would be der dritte raum's
latest but the name eludes me. very good stuff done with computer
generated modulars. very german.

-steve

RE: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by Dave Bradley

> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
> Looking to expand my CD collection in 2 areas:
>

> As you may tell, like softer, "ambient" sort of stuff, but not "Starbuck
> Coffee" junk (Indian flutes, rainforest, whales)
>

Can't help you with the techno, but check these out:

Steps Ahead: NYC and Modern Times (excellent modern jazz rock, they avoid
the mindless noodling "fuzak" syndrome that Rippingtons, Dave Sanborn and
others do not)

Zawinul: Dialects, Lost Tribes, and aw hell, any Weather Report (what can I
say, my electronic jazz hero)

Gentle Giant: Free Hand, Octopus, Power and the Glory (the best progressive
rock ever)

Also, if you dig Hammond jazz:

Joey DeFrancesco: The Champ (tribute to Jimmy Smith - incredible chops)

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@...

Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by Andrew Schrock

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Paul Schreiber wrote:
> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
> Looking to expand my CD collection in 2 areas:
>
> 1) Need some more (sigh) techno/dance/less-than-26-years-old music. I have
> some Orbital, Chemical Bros, M.B.F. but those are so like "yesterday"!
> Suggestions?

There are an abundance of material out right now fitting that description.
To be honest I'm not terribly into that right now... maybe Death in
Vegas/Crystal Method/Low-Fidelity Allstars? I dunno, what gets played on
commercial radio stations now? I'm out of touch inside my own bubble.

> 2) Need music to MOTM by (ie as I design/debug). Here are my currents faves:

Ok, some people you may not have heard of: (or maybe have and hate)

Biosphere (new age-y ambient)
S.E.T.I. (very ambient)
Labradford (post-rock ambient)
Rachel's (sort of an amalgamation of people doing classical-esque stuff)
Tortoise (most post-rock than anything else, sort of jazzy)
Squarepusher (remember Jaco? stay away from his eariler d&b style if
that's not your thing. His latest are more jazz-influenced)
Monolake (bleep, bloop)
Ui (a bit too "noodly" for me most of the time though)

I guarantee none of this is Starbucks cheesy crapola, and has decreased
stress levels significantly in lab rats. Go to a record store who will let
you listen to the material on a turntable/CD player before you buy, so
you're not dissapointed.

Right now I'm also big into the musik aus strom, chocolate industries, and
schematic labels, but they don't really fit into your descriptions too
well.

Andrew

-| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@... |-

Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by hodad1@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx

My recommendation for sort of covering all the bases is the DJ
Crush/Toshinori Kondo record.
Lots of good natural & synthetic trumpet playing, loaded with phat yet
mellow beats. Not
ambient, but I have fallen asleep to it.

tomr

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
To: MOTM listserv <motm@onelist.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 12:27 AM
Subject: [motm] Music to MOTM by


>From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
>Looking to expand my CD collection in 2 areas:
>
>1) Need some more (sigh) techno/dance/less-than-26-years-old music. I have
>some Orbital, Chemical Bros, M.B.F. but those are so like "yesterday"!
>Suggestions?
>
>2) Need music to MOTM by (ie as I design/debug). Here are my currents
faves:
>
>a) R. Wakeman: 6 Wives of Henry the Eighth (uplifting & depressing, since
RW
>was 19yrs old when he did this!)
>b) Enya- Shepard Moons
>c) any and all Pat Metheny (new CD w/Jim Hall is wonderful)
>d) Modern Jazz Quartet - Last Concert (defines "tight playing" forever. Not
>possible to play together any better.)
>e) Any Robert Rich
>f) any Steve Roach
>
>As you may tell, like softer, "ambient" sort of stuff, but not "Starbuck
>Coffee" junk (Indian flutes, rainforest, whales)
>
>Paul S.
>
>
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Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by Christopher Jeris

Hoo boy. Did you ever make a mistake, asking this on a list with me on
it. All the prog rock fans will probably get together to beat me
senseless now. :)

> 1) Need some more (sigh) techno/dance/less-than-26-years-old music. I have
> some Orbital, Chemical Bros, M.B.F. but those are so like "yesterday"!
> Suggestions?

The UK label Warp has put out many innovative and influential albums in a
genre which is perhaps best described as "Intelligent Dance Music".
Availability as domestic (read: cheap) releases varies. Warp is no longer
"underground" enough for some hip-snobs, but they still release
consistently good music. The following in particular should be considered
required listening:
Autechre - everything (best in chronological order: Incunabula,
Basscadet EP, Anti EP, Amber, Anvil Vapre, Garbage, Tri Repetae, Envane,
Chiastic Slide, Cichlisuite, Autechre, Peel Sessions, EP7) It is
impossible to overstate how brilliant this band is. Like Led Zeppelin,
they are the apotheosis of their genre: they make all their successors and
many of their predecessors sound like Autechre imitations.
Aphex Twin - everything, especially Selected Ambient Works II and
Richard D. James Album. No two Aphex releases are alike, so try a few
before you write him off as a pompous egomaniac (he is that, but it's hard
to tell how much of his cult of personality is parody).

Other highly recommended artists in the intelligent dance music/ambient
electronics spectrum, listed from "least ambient" to "most ambient":
Squarepusher (Warp) - pick and choose; jazz fans will dig the later
stuff more, particularly Music is Rotted One Note and Budakhan Mindphone.
Meat Beat Manifesto (Nothing, at least lately) - great fun, high-energy
reggae-and-jazz-influenced Chicago dub-techno, with vocals. Actual Sounds
and Voices is a gem.
Mouse on Mars (Thrill Jockey) - it's hard to call this stuff cheesy
because, although they make wack funny dance music, it conveys such a
spirit of good fun. They're so happy looking in concert.
Future Sound of London (Astralwerks) - tends toward the overproduced and
histrionic occasionally, but several discs are worth a listen: Dead
Cities, the Lifeforms EP, and ISDN.
Orb (Island) - one of the first ambient-dance acts and still one of the
best, despite commercial success. Orbvs Terrarvm is indescribable.
Albums before and after are more conventionally dancey.
Pole (Kiff) - goooood deep semi-beatless ambient dub. The name comes
from a busted Waldorf 4-Pole filter that produces his trademark fuzzy pops
and clicks.
Pan Sonic (formerly Panasonic before they got sued; Mute/Blast First) -
a couple of Finns making dance music out of ... clicks and beeps and
subsonics and 10 kHz test tones??? Not easy listening but rewarding.
Boards of Canada (Warp/Skam) - kind of cutesy, but in a nice way.
Bola (Skam) - just one album so far but it's dynamite.
Oval (Thrill Jockey) - interesting sounds (granular synthesis?).
Supposedly he's going to release his software on the next album.
Systemisch is particularly recommended.
Seefeel (Astralwerks, Warp, Rephlex) and side project Disjecta (Warp) -
brilliantly hypnotic soundscapes ranging from poppy guitar/vocal mixes
(the old stuff on Astralwerks - like a nicer My Bloody Valentine) to
harsher synthetic space noises (later stuff).
Experimental Audio Research [E.A.R.] (various labels) - beatless Serge
noodling, done well. Whenever this guy tries to do beatful music (under
names Spacemen 3, Spectrum), it's terrible. Beyond the Pale is especially
good.

A few other projects I've been listening to lately which fit more under
"experimental/noise" than "electronic/ambient" :
Aube (various labels) - I picked up a disc called "Flash" which is
processed output from fluorescent lights and glow lamps. Not casual fare
but interesting nonetheless.
Controlled Bleeding (various labels, lately Hypnotic) - This act has
been in business since 1983 and has experimented with many different
genres. Ranges from not quite okay to excellent (The Drowning, Songs from
the Vault).
Coil (various labels) - veterans of experimental, I'd have more of their
stuff if it weren't $27 a disc.

I'm sure this was more than you wanted to know *grin* There's so much
throwaway trash in dance sections, it's hard to find intelligent music.
All the artists I've listed are ones I find myself coming back to again
and again.

peace,
Chris

Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by improv@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

>From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
>Looking to expand my CD collection in 2 areas:
>
>1) Need some more (sigh) techno/dance/less-than-26-years-old music. I have
>some Orbital, Chemical Bros, M.B.F. but those are so like "yesterday"!
>Suggestions?
>
>2) Need music to MOTM by (ie as I design/debug). Here are my currents faves:
>
>a) R. Wakeman: 6 Wives of Henry the Eighth (uplifting & depressing, since RW
>was 19yrs old when he did this!)
>b) Enya- Shepard Moons
>c) any and all Pat Metheny (new CD w/Jim Hall is wonderful)
>d) Modern Jazz Quartet - Last Concert (defines "tight playing" forever. Not
>possible to play together any better.)
>e) Any Robert Rich
>f) any Steve Roach
>
>As you may tell, like softer, "ambient" sort of stuff, but not "Starbuck
>Coffee" junk (Indian flutes, rainforest, whales)
>
>Paul S.
>
A couple things I've been listening to a lot lately you might enjoy:

Boards of Canada: Music has the Right to Children. Very nice stuff, reminds
me of Eno's Another Green World in places. There are some analog textures
on this CD that really leave me scratching my head as to how they did them.
I suspect there are some modulars involved

Tortoise: TNT. This is their latest album though it's about a year and a
half old now. The first of their records I've really liked, extremely
well-recorded, some very cool textures and processing, and nice
compositions. One tune sounds very much like it could have been written by
Metheny, other influences I hear on this disc are Steve Reich, Ennio
Morricone, and african electric guitar bands like Sunny ade's and Thomas
Mapfumo.

And if you can wait a few months, the new CD by my band Minus will have
some prominently-featured MOTM! In the mixing stage now...

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@... : www.peak.org/~improv/

"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
-Sun Ra
________________________________________________________

Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by improv@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

>From: hodad1@...
>
>My recommendation for sort of covering all the bases is the DJ
>Crush/Toshinori Kondo record.
>Lots of good natural & synthetic trumpet playing, loaded with phat yet
>mellow beats. Not
>ambient, but I have fallen asleep to it.
>
>tomr

Oh yeah, that's another disc I've been listening to a lot lately that i
forgot to mention in my post. Very nice, kind of the thing that Miles was
trying towards the end and never quite got to.

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@... : www.peak.org/~improv/

"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
-Sun Ra
________________________________________________________

Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by Paul Schreiber

BTW:

I will be MORE than happy to give list members an entire page for their
MOTM-featured
releases: Artwork, MP3, links back to "official" site to order, my review
comments...:)

Well: the price is a pressed CD. I know of this one and 2 more in mix/post.
Don't be
shy!

Paul S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Trenkel <improv@...>
To: motm@onelist.com <motm@onelist.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Music to MOTM by


>From: improv@... (Dave Trenkel)
>
>>From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>>
>>Looking to expand my CD collection in 2 areas:
>>
>>1) Need some more (sigh) techno/dance/less-than-26-years-old music. I have
>>some Orbital, Chemical Bros, M.B.F. but those are so like "yesterday"!
>>Suggestions?
>>
>>2) Need music to MOTM by (ie as I design/debug). Here are my currents
faves:
>>
>>a) R. Wakeman: 6 Wives of Henry the Eighth (uplifting & depressing, since
RW
>>was 19yrs old when he did this!)
>>b) Enya- Shepard Moons
>>c) any and all Pat Metheny (new CD w/Jim Hall is wonderful)
>>d) Modern Jazz Quartet - Last Concert (defines "tight playing" forever.
Not
>>possible to play together any better.)
>>e) Any Robert Rich
>>f) any Steve Roach
>>
>>As you may tell, like softer, "ambient" sort of stuff, but not "Starbuck
>>Coffee" junk (Indian flutes, rainforest, whales)
>>
>>Paul S.
>>
>A couple things I've been listening to a lot lately you might enjoy:
>
>Boards of Canada: Music has the Right to Children. Very nice stuff, reminds
>me of Eno's Another Green World in places. There are some analog textures
>on this CD that really leave me scratching my head as to how they did them.
>I suspect there are some modulars involved
>
>Tortoise: TNT. This is their latest album though it's about a year and a
>half old now. The first of their records I've really liked, extremely
>well-recorded, some very cool textures and processing, and nice
>compositions. One tune sounds very much like it could have been written by
>Metheny, other influences I hear on this disc are Steve Reich, Ennio
>Morricone, and african electric guitar bands like Sunny ade's and Thomas
>Mapfumo.
>
>And if you can wait a few months, the new CD by my band Minus will have
>some prominently-featured MOTM! In the mixing stage now...
>
>________________________________________________________
>Dave Trenkel : improv@... : www.peak.org/~improv/
>
>"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
>gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
>your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
>type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
>together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
>together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
> -Sun Ra
>________________________________________________________
>
>
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Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by gjalass@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:37:07 -0500, you wrote:

>From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
>Looking to expand my CD collection in 2 areas:
>
>1) Need some more (sigh) techno/dance/less-than-26-years-old music. I have
>some Orbital, Chemical Bros, M.B.F. but those are so like "yesterday"!
>Suggestions?

I'm not sure whether these CD's are available in the US.

It's a whole set of recordings ( the last one - to my opinion the best
one - is VIII ). All having the quite promising title "The Dark Side
of the Moog".

They are the outcome of a collaboration of Pete Namlook and Klaus
Schulze and others ( eg. Bill Laswell ). The music itself is a xover
of "Berlin school", electro, drum'n bass, ambient - not everything at
the same time, of course ;-)

The instruments being used do range from analog stuff ( incl. a Moog
modular, the EMS VCS ) and the complete range of Quasimidi gear.

At club events I've seen both "old" and "young" people being quite
excited about it ( VIII is live recording at a club at Hamburg,
actually ).

Somewhat more on the "kiddie" side is "Goa Trance", a lot of those
projects being originated at Israel ( eg. Astral Projection, MFG ).
I'm not sure whether You are able to design/debug when hearing this
music ;-)

It's a lot of 4-to-the-floor drum and sequencer work and does really
work at raves (volume !).

Yours subjectively
Gert

>
>2) Need music to MOTM by (ie as I design/debug). Here are my currents faves:
>
>a) R. Wakeman: 6 Wives of Henry the Eighth (uplifting & depressing, since RW
>was 19yrs old when he did this!)
>b) Enya- Shepard Moons
>c) any and all Pat Metheny (new CD w/Jim Hall is wonderful)
>d) Modern Jazz Quartet - Last Concert (defines "tight playing" forever. Not
>possible to play together any better.)
>e) Any Robert Rich
>f) any Steve Roach
>
>As you may tell, like softer, "ambient" sort of stuff, but not "Starbuck
>Coffee" junk (Indian flutes, rainforest, whales)
>
>Paul S.
>
>
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Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by jmw

Paul ,

For a completely non-electronic experience try:

Kamalesh Maitre,
Tabla Tarang-Melody on Drums Pandit (1996) Smithsonian Folkways SF-40436

This is Hindustani classical music played w/ tabla as the melodic instrument
- the soloist surrounds himself in a circle of tabla tuned to the notes of a
particular raga and lets it rip. On this recording he chooses are
particularly mellow, minor-ish raga. It sounds like someone playing melodies
on water.... Whne I first bought this I played it for something like 8 hours
straight without even noticing it was repeating. Includes a very
informative booklet.

Sounds cool though a MOTM-420 too!

jmw

PS_ Check out the Folkways back catalog - everything they have ever released
is still available (at least on cassette) - where else would you find gems
like "Human Speech after the Removal of the Larynx" or Tang Dynasty Poems
read in mandarin?

Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by Paul Schreiber

For a ripper, try Ry Cooder's "Down By The River". Won a Grammy. Hindu +
National Steel slide guitar.

Paul S.

-----Original Message-----
From: jmw <evening@...>
To: motm@onelist.com <motm@onelist.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Music to MOTM by


>From: "jmw" <evening@...>
>
>Paul ,
>
>For a completely non-electronic experience try:
>
>Kamalesh Maitre,
>Tabla Tarang-Melody on Drums Pandit (1996) Smithsonian Folkways SF-40436
>
>This is Hindustani classical music played w/ tabla as the melodic
instrument
>- the soloist surrounds himself in a circle of tabla tuned to the notes of
a
>particular raga and lets it rip. On this recording he chooses are
>particularly mellow, minor-ish raga. It sounds like someone playing
melodies
>on water.... Whne I first bought this I played it for something like 8
hours
>straight without even noticing it was repeating. Includes a very
>informative booklet.
>
>Sounds cool though a MOTM-420 too!
>
>jmw
>
>PS_ Check out the Folkways back catalog - everything they have ever
released
>is still available (at least on cassette) - where else would you find gems
>like "Human Speech after the Removal of the Larynx" or Tang Dynasty Poems
>read in mandarin?
>
>
>
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RE: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-14 by David Bivins

> Seefeel (Astralwerks, Warp, Rephlex) and side project Disjecta (Warp) -
> brilliantly hypnotic soundscapes ranging from poppy guitar/vocal mixes
> (the old stuff on Astralwerks - like a nicer My Bloody Valentine) to
> harsher synthetic space noises (later stuff).

And Scala, another offshoot minus Clifford, which is very good.

> Experimental Audio Research [E.A.R.] (various labels) - beatless Serge
> noodling, done well. Whenever this guy tries to do beatful music (under
> names Spacemen 3, Spectrum), it's terrible. Beyond the Pale is especially
> good.

Unfortunately, all the good Spectrum I've heard is hopelessly obscure and
out of print. He did some gorgeous space-pop stuff, very guitar-oriented.
I'll try to remember some of the names--it was taped for me by someone who
had the sense to buy the stuff when it came out. The widely available
Spectrum album (Forever Alien) is pretty mediocre to me. Too bad--'cause it
has a great synth on the cover ;)

Re: Music to MOTM by

1999-09-15 by Seth Redmore

Paul Schreiber wrote:

> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
> Looking to expand my CD collection in 2 areas:
>
> 1) Need some more (sigh) techno/dance/less-than-26-years-old music. I have
> some Orbital, Chemical Bros, M.B.F. but those are so like "yesterday"!
> Suggestions?

Ignore the crap on the radio. Judging by your descriptions, you'll love the
following:

(This is my favorite genre...)Must haves:

Artist Title
The Orb Adventures beyond the Ultraworld
Global Communication 76:14
Various Artists (Instinct Label) Chill Out, Phase I and Phase II
Various artists (Moonshine Label) United States of Ambience, II
Almost anything on the Platipus or Eve labels
Various Artists Tranceylvania (not sure of label)
Massive Attack Mezzanine
Massive Attack Protection


Try those. The first is dubbish, GC/Chillout, and USA are ambient (not
NUuuuAgggeeeee), Platipus/Eve/And tranceylvania are trance (beat/dance -- good
for reclocking your brain), and the last two are trip-hop.

--Seth



>
>
> 2) Need music to MOTM by (ie as I design/debug). Here are my currents faves:
>
> a) R. Wakeman: 6 Wives of Henry the Eighth (uplifting & depressing, since RW
> was 19yrs old when he did this!)
> b) Enya- Shepard Moons
> c) any and all Pat Metheny (new CD w/Jim Hall is wonderful)
> d) Modern Jazz Quartet - Last Concert (defines "tight playing" forever. Not
> possible to play together any better.)
> e) Any Robert Rich
> f) any Steve Roach
>
> As you may tell, like softer, "ambient" sort of stuff, but not "Starbuck
> Coffee" junk (Indian flutes, rainforest, whales)
>
> Paul S.
>
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