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Yea, I got a comment...

What's the silver module top cabinet bottom row on the right?

Thanks!

Les Mizzell

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: thomas white [mailto:djthomaswhite@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:04 PM
> To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [motm] MOTM Cabinet Image
>
>
> Hey guys here is my new set up after building the slanted front lower
> cabinet. Figured since cabinets were one of the few things being talked
> about lately that this might be appropriate. Any comments?
>
> Thomas White
>
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In a message dated 4/2/02 2:06:13 PM Central Standard Time, 
djthomaswhite@... writes:

> Hey guys here is my new set up after building the slanted front lower 
>  cabinet. Figured since cabinets were one of the few things being talked 
>  about lately that this might be appropriate. Any comments?
>  

 Man, I really love seeing everyone's completed cabinets. It's been a while 
now that I've been planning on - getting ready to - thinking about - 
designing a layout for what will eventually be my cabinet. ; )

 So... how about a module map? I'd like to see what all those modules are, 
including the one that's been banished to the top right corner. : )

  Andrew

Well I don't know about a module map but I can give it a shot from the 
image:

Top Row:

420 VCF x 3
440 VCF x 3
410 VCF x 1 (OMS-410 coming soon from Todd Faulkner! HA! HA! HA!)
rest of the top row will hold all new filters

2nd Row:

DIY Joystick Module
MOTM'ized Wiard Joyrider VCF (Borg without Oscillators)
OMS-820 Lag Compliment
820 Lag processor
Blacet Klangwerk Ring Mod
800 ADSR x 4
Blacet Time Machine
Maplin Voice Vandal

3rd Row:

320 LFO #1
300 VCO x 3
Oakley Wavefolder
120 Sub Octave Mux
Blacet Miniwave
Wiard Miniwave
Space for 310 uVCO
910 Multi
320 LFO #2

4th Row:

DIY IBM Joystick Module
DIY Roland M-181 Keyboard Breakout panel
JLH-831 Interval Switcher
101 Noise/Sample & Hold
Blacet Dark Star Chaos
700 VC Switch
850 Pedal Interface
800 ADSR x 2
110 VCA x 2
Encore UEG

Hope that helps out. Man I can't wait to get my 960 power PCB so I can fully 
power up the lower cabinet and start the madness. I have never played with 
my rack since I have finished my 3rd 420 and 2nd and 3rd 440's. Can't WAIT! 
Soon as I get the MOTM-130 Dual VCA I'll be able to finally try polyphony 
with 3 notes. Boy oh boy oh boy,

Thomas White


>From: ixqy@...
>To: motm@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM Cabinet Image
>Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:47:48 EST
>
>In a message dated 4/2/02 2:06:13 PM Central Standard Time,
>djthomaswhite@... writes:
>
> > Hey guys here is my new set up after building the slanted front lower
> >  cabinet. Figured since cabinets were one of the few things being talked
> >  about lately that this might be appropriate. Any comments?
> >
>
>  Man, I really love seeing everyone's completed cabinets. It's been a 
>while
>now that I've been planning on - getting ready to - thinking about -
>designing a layout for what will eventually be my cabinet. ; )
>
>  So... how about a module map? I'd like to see what all those modules are,
>including the one that's been banished to the top right corner. : )
>
>   Andrew
>
>




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Look on the bright side.  By the time we get them they will be vintage...

At 12:08 AM 4/3/2002 +0000, thomas white wrote:
>410 VCF x 1 (OMS-410 coming soon from Todd Faulkner! HA! HA! HA!)

-dave-

http://www.hylander.com

Looks like a MOTM-410 to me.  The only MOTM module with a switch with no box
around it as far as I know.
Larry H

----- Original Message -----
From: <ixqy@...>
So... how about a module map? I'd like to see
what all those modules are, including the one
that's been banished to the top right corner. : )

Arghh, my name is Thomas BTW. Todd is the guy who took money for kits and 
never made good on it. He owes me $130 or a kit so you can see my 
frustration.

I got the Maplin kit from the following link. It says it has been 
discontinued but it also said that when I ordered mine. Try it:

http://radio.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qkits.com%2Fpublic%2Fqkits%2Fqlt82.htm

Hope it helps out and you can get your hands on one. Only needs positive 
volts and can be powered from a wall-wart if you are a guitarist. Enjoy!

Thomas White

>From: synth_guru@...
>To: thomas white <djthomaswhite@...>
>Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM Cabinet Image
>Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 19:27:10 -0500
>
>Nice system Todd!
>If you ever want to sell a Maplin give me a holler.
>Stewart
>
>thomas white wrote:
>
>>Well I don't know about a module map but I can give it a shot from the
>>image:
>>
>>Top Row:
>>
>>420 VCF x 3
>>440 VCF x 3
>>410 VCF x 1 (OMS-410 coming soon from Todd Faulkner! HA! HA! HA!)
>>rest of the top row will hold all new filters
>>
>>2nd Row:
>>
>>DIY Joystick Module
>>MOTM'ized Wiard Joyrider VCF (Borg without Oscillators)
>>OMS-820 Lag Compliment
>>820 Lag processor
>>Blacet Klangwerk Ring Mod
>>800 ADSR x 4
>>Blacet Time Machine
>>Maplin Voice Vandal
>>
>>3rd Row:
>>
>>320 LFO #1
>>300 VCO x 3
>>Oakley Wavefolder
>>120 Sub Octave Mux
>>Blacet Miniwave
>>Wiard Miniwave
>>Space for 310 uVCO
>>910 Multi
>>320 LFO #2
>>
>>4th Row:
>>
>>DIY IBM Joystick Module
>>DIY Roland M-181 Keyboard Breakout panel
>>JLH-831 Interval Switcher
>>101 Noise/Sample & Hold
>>Blacet Dark Star Chaos
>>700 VC Switch
>>850 Pedal Interface
>>800 ADSR x 2
>>110 VCA x 2
>>Encore UEG
>>
>>Hope that helps out. Man I can't wait to get my 960 power PCB so I can 
>>fully
>>power up the lower cabinet and start the madness. I have never played with
>>my rack since I have finished my 3rd 420 and 2nd and 3rd 440's. Can't 
>>WAIT!
>>Soon as I get the MOTM-130 Dual VCA I'll be able to finally try polyphony
>>with 3 notes. Boy oh boy oh boy,
>>
>>Thomas White
>>
>>
>>>From: ixqy@...
>>>To: motm@yahoogroups.com
>>>Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM Cabinet Image
>>>Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:47:48 EST
>>>
>>>In a message dated 4/2/02 2:06:13 PM Central Standard Time,
>>>djthomaswhite@... writes:
>>>
>>>>Hey guys here is my new set up after building the slanted front lower
>>>>cabinet. Figured since cabinets were one of the few things being talked
>>>>about lately that this might be appropriate. Any comments?
>>>>
>>>Man, I really love seeing everyone's completed cabinets. It's been a
>>>while
>>>now that I've been planning on - getting ready to - thinking about -
>>>designing a layout for what will eventually be my cabinet. ; )
>>>
>>>So... how about a module map? I'd like to see what all those modules are,
>>>including the one that's been banished to the top right corner. : )
>>>
>>>  Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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by the time we get them hell will freeze over

--- In motm@y..., Dave Hylander <david@h...> wrote:
> Look on the bright side.  By the time we get them they will be 
vintage...

> 
> At 12:08 AM 4/3/2002 +0000, thomas white wrote:
> >410 VCF x 1 (OMS-410 coming soon from Todd Faulkner! HA! HA! HA!)
> 
> -dave-
> 
> http://www.hylander.com

Hey guys here is my new set up after building the slanted front lower 
cabinet. Figured since cabinets were one of the few things being talked 
about lately that this might be appropriate. Any comments?

Thomas White



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Wasn't someone following up on this? (Larry I think)

> by the time we get them hell will freeze over
> 
> --- In motm@y..., Dave Hylander <david@h...> wrote:
> > Look on the bright side.  By the time we get them they will be 
> vintage...
> > 
> > At 12:08 AM 4/3/2002 +0000, thomas white wrote:
> > >410 VCF x 1 (OMS-410 coming soon from Todd Faulkner! HA! HA! HA!)

Larry has been real good about trying to get something going.  But 
Faulkner is in Japan (!) with no return date set.  Kudos to Larry for 
trying!

--- In motm@y..., "Tony Karavidas" <tony@e...> wrote:
> 
> Wasn't someone following up on this? (Larry I think)
> 
> 
> 
> > by the time we get them hell will freeze over
> > 
> > --- In motm@y..., Dave Hylander <david@h...> wrote:
> > > Look on the bright side.  By the time we get them they will be 
> > vintage...
> > > 
> > > At 12:08 AM 4/3/2002 +0000, thomas white wrote:
> > > >410 VCF x 1 (OMS-410 coming soon from Todd Faulkner! HA! HA! 
HA!)

Thats a MAPLIN Voice Vandal module I got from Canada somewhere. Basically it 
is a digital delay/digital ring modulator wave warper and I can never kill 
the carrier noise. I have been looking into shorting the Modulators IC to 
cut the noise and maybe have a switch to turn it on and off at will. No luck 
yet, not really been trying though either.
The thing has:

Delay Time
Delay Rate
Distortion (modulator amount)
Modulator Band select buttons (Low High etc)
Modulator Carrier Frequency
Line In
Mic In (has Pre-amp)
and Out

Cool warper for only 60 bucks and the home made panel. I actually have a 
second one I plan to build into a black MOTM panel with proper knob spacing 
after I figure out a couple of mods for the kit. Supposedly this kit is to 
imitate Daleks and Gritty Voiced Robots from old sci-fi shows but hey! Works 
great in the old MOTM

Thomas White
>From: "Les Mizzell" <lesmizz@...>
>To: "thomas white" <djthomaswhite@...>, <motm@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [motm] MOTM Cabinet Image
>Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 15:08:15 -0500
>
>Yea, I got a comment...
>
>What's the silver module top cabinet bottom row on the right?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Les Mizzell
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thomas white [mailto:djthomaswhite@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:04 PM
> > To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [motm] MOTM Cabinet Image
> >
> >
> > Hey guys here is my new set up after building the slanted front lower
> > cabinet. Figured since cabinets were one of the few things being talked
> > about lately that this might be appropriate. Any comments?
> >
> > Thomas White
> >
> >
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I have some friends in the Japanese mafia. Maybe I should call them in for a
favor???

;-{

This email should have been sent yesterday, because it's entirely false.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:35 PM
> To: MOTM List
> Subject: Re: [motm] Re: Todd Faulkner
>
>
> Thanks.  But, I have had no luck to date.  Phone calls are not being
> returned.  I am still trying. But, I grow less and less optimistic.  It
> really pisses me off because Moe and I have worked so hard to be sure that
> everyone is 100% satisfied with what we sell on a "pay first" basis.  It
> kind of erodes trust somewhat.
>
> Speaking of stuff, I called the metal shop today.  He said he forgot about
> our quote for SKB backs.  So, he said it would be coming soon.
>
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mmarsh100 <mmarsh@...>
> Larry has been real good about trying to get something going.  But
> Faulkner is in Japan (!) with no return date set.  Kudos to Larry for
> trying!
>
>
>
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Thanks.  But, I have had no luck to date.  Phone calls are not being
returned.  I am still trying. But, I grow less and less optimistic.  It
really pisses me off because Moe and I have worked so hard to be sure that
everyone is 100% satisfied with what we sell on a "pay first" basis.  It
kind of erodes trust somewhat.

Speaking of stuff, I called the metal shop today.  He said he forgot about
our quote for SKB backs.  So, he said it would be coming soon.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: mmarsh100 <mmarsh@...>
Larry has been real good about trying to get something going.  But
Faulkner is in Japan (!) with no return date set.  Kudos to Larry for
trying!

I wrote:
> “Man, I really love seeing everyone's completed cabinets. It's been a while
>  now that I've been planning on - getting ready to - thinking about -
>  designing a layout for what will eventually be my cabinet. ; )”
>  
Aardvark-mi@... writes:
>  I just posted images of my Cabinets (so far) at
>  http://aardvark-mi.home.attbi.com. Drop in and take a look!
>  
>  Al Wagner


 Wow... more nice pics to drool over! : )

 You mention that the finger joints are easy to make and that they are very 
strong. For the woodworking newbie that I am, how do you cut the fingers? 
Either side of the finger is not a problem, but how do you get to the back 
side to cut it out? Also, are the fingers and glue the only thing holding the 
main frame of the cabinet together?

 Thanks,
 Andrew

Nice One AL, Very cool!

Thomas White

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ixqy@... 
  To: Aardvark-mi@... ; motm@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM Cabinet



  I wrote:
  > “Man, I really love seeing everyone's completed cabinets. It's been a while
  >  now that I've been planning on - getting ready to - thinking about -
  >  designing a layout for what will eventually be my cabinet. ; )”
  >  
  Aardvark-mi@... writes:
  >  I just posted images of my Cabinets (so far) at
  >  http://aardvark-mi.home.attbi.com Drop in and take a look!
  >  
  >  Al Wagner


  Wow... more nice pics to drool over! : )

  You mention that the finger joints are easy to make and that they are very 
  strong. For the woodworking newbie that I am, how do you cut the fingers? 
  Either side of the finger is not a problem, but how do you get to the back 
  side to cut it out? Also, are the fingers and glue the only thing holding the 
  main frame of the cabinet together?

  Thanks,
  Andrew

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On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 16:46, ixqy@... wrote:
> 
>  You mention that the finger joints are easy to make and that they are very 
> strong. For the woodworking newbie that I am, how do you cut the fingers? 
> Either side of the finger is not a problem, but how do you get to the back 
> side to cut it out? Also, are the fingers and glue the only thing holding the 
> main frame of the cabinet together?
> 
Two ways. The "modern" way is to use a router and router table, or a
dado on a table saw. The board is slide on it's end across the router or
dado (think of a saw blade as wide as the cut).

Now I will invoke the name of Tag Frid (Tag Frid, Tag Frid Teaches
Woodworking , (Taunton Press; 1981). A very clear introduction to
various basic woodworking joints and techniques that will be useful in
making any project.), 

"In the old days..."

Actually you use a hand saw to cut the sides and a wood chisel to remove
the wood in slivers from the bottom. The above book is the bible of 
joints. This book shows you don't need all those expensive noisy
machines to do wooding. Just expensive quiet hand tools :-).

tomy

And a lot of practice and then more practice.  My favorite hand joint to do 
is the dove tail.  The big mortice and tenon joints used in timber framing 
are lots of fun, but can get a bit challenging, as making a mistake can 
cost big $$.
dave

At 05:19 PM 4/3/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>This book shows you don't need all those expensive noisy
>machines to do wooding. Just expensive quiet hand tools :-).

-dave-

http://www.hylander.com

Looks nice Al.  I like the portabe "rack" design / size but yet the "wood
case" look. :)
Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Wagner
I just posted images of my Cabinets (so far) at
http://aardvark-mi.home.attbi.com. Drop in and take a look!

Al Wagner

"You mention that the finger joints are easy to make and that they are very
strong. For the woodworking newbie that I am, how do you cut the fingers?
Either side of the finger is not a problem, but how do you get to the back
side to cut it out? Also, are the fingers and glue the only thing holding the
main frame of the cabinet together?"

I used only glue to hold the cabinet together. The idea behind the fingerjoints is that you increase the surface area of the joint. If you just butt two boards together you glue only 1 edge and only on 1 plane so the joint isn't very strong. By using fingerjoints you not only glue 3 times the surface area but you also glue on 3 different planes giving the joints their strength. 
How do you make them you ask? Well there are dozens of ways to make them and several jigs available that you can buy. Here's how I did mine using a table saw, Dado blade and a homemade jig. http://aardvark-mi.home.attbi.com/fingerjoints.htm 
P.S. I added this page to my site and I was a little tired when I wrote the page so I hope it makes sense!!!
Al Wagner

----- Original Message -----

From: Alan Wagner <Aardvark-mi@...>
If you just butt two boards together you glue only
1 edge and only on 1 plane so the joint isn't very
strong.

No doubt about that.  My cabinets are made with simple "looking" butt
joints.  But, in reality, there are dowels rods inserted and glued in every
joint (that do not show).  Otherwise, I might tend to put in some of those
corner braces inside.  If fact, I got some and considered it just for added
strength.  But, my synth is for home (an an annual trek to AHMW).  So, I
never put them in.

not to make fun of greg's plight - but i think todd pressed the wrong button
on his tardis again.experience has shown (i think - please stand up if this
is not the case) that time & todd have a different relationship than that of
you or me. my optimistic side says he'll see you right - eventually. it'd be
interesting to see what the other two customers say about his service, in
the meantime motm residents, next time todd comes up with a plan onlist -
maybe we should all say NO in big letters..?
cheers
paul b (still patiently waiting for a psim)

I'm one of the other Agonizer kit buyers, and have tried emailing him 
recently to no avail. I'm trying to think happy thoughts anyway.

e

.....and I'm the third :-) 
Yes he didn't reply to my messages either anyway I'm confident he is 
just (perhaps) not too much well organized, or maybe just a bit lazy 
but still a good guy I'm sure.
I don't know him personally but I also tend to be optimistic in this 
case, as Eric said.
Only, since he just posted a message on this list, he could have 
reassured us if everything is ok with the kits. Are you still waiting 
for pots and tanks? NO problems if you aren't ready yet, just drop a 
line.
All the best Enrico (Italy)


--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Eric Frampton <eric@e...> wrote:
> I'm one of the other Agonizer kit buyers, and have tried emailing 
him 

> recently to no avail. I'm trying to think happy thoughts anyway.
> 
> e

Listen... I warned everyone on the list about this guy
after talking to a close friend of Todd's who
basically told me the guy was a flake. No one heeded
my warning. Oh, well... 




		
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--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Jim Black <black_man_music@y...> wrote:
> Listen... I warned everyone on the list about this guy
> after talking to a close friend of Todd's who
> basically told me the guy was a flake. No one heeded
> my warning. Oh, well... 

Hey, I resemble that remark!