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NAMM and Drift Module

2002-01-17 by Thomas White

Hello,

I think this would be kind of a waste of module space and design resources. You could achieve similar results with the current modules out if you cross patched enough LFOs and slowed them way down with voltage control. The range of each module as it stands "is what it is" but with VC you can slow things way down or speed them way up so the super duper slow changes needed might be achieveable. The 830 mixer with bias, or the pedal interface all have the ability to add positive or negative voltage to LFO's and S&H speed. Just a thought from a guy who would much rather see the developement of the Dual Panning VCA, VC Phaser, SEM VCF, Dual response ladder VCF (Wait till you all get a hold of or sample of the new micro Ladder VCF Paul is showing at NAMM. The whole series looks insane and the quad LFO had me drooling) and the whole 500 series of super weird tweaker modules like the wave warper etc. Oh yeah, can't forget the VC Pulse Divider and Sequencer someday. Maybe now with the micro series we can get the micro sequencer rolling (in a 3 space panel).

Thomas White

PS. NAMM looks to be insane, please mail me if you are going and maybe I'll see you at Pauls booth (which is only one booth away from the Big Briar BTW, should make for at least an interesting environment) Again from my own opinion the whole micro modular series has been worth any 3 month wait for modules. Those who don't know details will most likely agree when you see/hear/tweak with the modules. All I got to say in Micro-Mania coming soon! Can't beat the price for sure.

Sorry for the duplicate mail to Celesteh ; )

Power Distribution Board Help

2002-01-17 by psygfx@yahoo.com

Just got my power distribution board. How do I hook this thing up? Paul is probably gone to namm so anyone else?

Thanks

matt

RE: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help

2002-01-17 by John Loffink

Which one, 900-PCB or 960?  Assuming you're adding to a MOTM-900, the
easiest way to connect the 900-PCB is to add a barrier strip  inside of
your cabinet, and tie off the the power supply and two power PCBs there.
The 960 has built in barrier strips so you can just use that.  
John Loffink
jloffink@...

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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:48 PM
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Subject: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help

Just got my power distribution board. How do I hook this thing up? Paul
is probably gone to namm so anyone else?
Thanks
matt 

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RE: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help

2002-01-17 by psygfx@yahoo.com

I have the 960. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a barrier strip? What
gauge wire should I use? Will it distribute the power if I just use an
extra mta connector and attach the power one from the power supply to
the 960? Thanks for the help. Detailed ignorant friendly responces
appreciated (-:
Thanks
matt

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Subject: RE: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help
 
Which one, 900-PCB or 960?  Assuming you're adding to a MOTM-900, the
easiest way to connect the 900-PCB is to add a barrier strip  inside of
your cabinet, and tie off the the power supply and two power PCBs there.
The 960 has built in barrier strips so you can just use that.  
John Loffink
jloffink@... 
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From: psygfx@... [mailto:psygfx@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:48 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help
 
Just got my power distribution board. How do I hook this thing up? Paul
is probably gone to namm so anyone else?
Thanks
matt 




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RE: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help

2002-01-17 by John Loffink

A barrier strip is black hunk of plastic with screw terminals inset in
between ridges that isolate one screw terminal from the next.  There's
one on each end of the 960.  You don't want to connect power to this
board using the MTA connectors as they use a lighter gauge wire and
could get too hot and compromise your signal quality.  Stranded 14 gauge
wire is recommended.  You can find this at Radio Shack or auto supply
stores.  A star configuration is recommended, meaning that power
branches out from the power supply to the power PCBs, then branches from
the power PCBs to your modules.  This is instead of a series connection,
from one power PCB to the next.  Now that I think about it, you need an
extra barrier strip anyway to make this star connection from your power
supply to multiple power PCBs.  You can find them at Radio Shack.
John Loffink
jloffink@...

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From: psygfx@... [mailto:psygfx@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:06 PM
To: 'John Loffink'; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help

I have the 960. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a barrier strip? What
gauge wire should I use? Will it distribute the power if I just use an
extra mta connector and attach the power one from the power supply to
the 960? Thanks for the help. Detailed ignorant friendly responces
appreciated (-:
Thanks
matt

-----Original Message-----
From: John Loffink [mailto:jloffink@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:01 PM
To: psygfx@...; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help

Which one, 900-PCB or 960?  Assuming you're adding to a MOTM-900, the
easiest way to connect the 900-PCB is to add a barrier strip  inside of
your cabinet, and tie off the the power supply and two power PCBs there.
The 960 has built in barrier strips so you can just use that.  
John Loffink
jloffink@... 
-----Original Message-----
From: psygfx@... [mailto:psygfx@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:48 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help

Just got my power distribution board. How do I hook this thing up? Paul
is probably gone to namm so anyone else?
Thanks
matt 

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RE: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help

2002-01-17 by mate_stubb

Go here immediately and read this:

http://www.hotrodmotm.com/distribute.htm

and this:

http://www.hotrodmotm.com/distribute_sod.htm

You can render your gorgeous MOTM modules into an unstable, 
untuneable pile of junk if you don't take a little care to make your 
power distribution system rock-solid.

Moe

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A barrier strip is black hunk of plastic with screw terminals inset 
in between ridges that isolate one screw terminal from the next.  
There's one on each end of the 960.  You don't want to connect power 
to this board using the MTA connectors as they use a lighter gauge 
wire and could get too hot and compromise your signal quality.  
Stranded 14 gauge wire is recommended.  You can find this at Radio 
Shack or auto supply stores.  A star configuration is recommended, 
meaning that power branches out from the power supply to the power 
PCBs, then branches from the power PCBs to your modules.  This is 
instead of a series connection, from one power PCB to the next.  Now 
that I think about it, you need an extra barrier strip anyway to make 
this star connection from your power supply to multiple power PCBs.  
You can find them at Radio Shack.

John Loffink
jloffink@...

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-----Original Message-----
From: psygfx@... [mailto:psygfx@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:06 PM
To: 'John Loffink'; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] Power Distribution Board Help

I have the 960. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a barrier strip? 
What gauge wire should I use? Will it distribute the power if I just 
use an extra mta connector and attach the power one from the power 
supply to the 960? Thanks for the help. Detailed ignorant friendly 
responces appreciated (-:

Thanks

matt

Power Distribution Pics and more help

2002-01-17 by psygfx@yahoo.com

Ok so I went out and got all the stuff, the only thing is that I think
my terminal block is too cheezey and small. Check out the pic and see
what you think, im not real pleased with the results. I couldn't find a
better one so Can I just scrap it and solder these wires together or
splice them? Seems like things would be more solid that way. Is the
terminal block even hooked up right with the main power in one side and
2 wires to the distribution boards going out the other side?  Sorry for
all the questions, thanks for the help in advance.
http://www.downtempo604.com/P1170018.jpg

Re: [motm] Power Distribution Pics and more help

2002-01-17 by J. Larry Hendry

Your terminal block might be better if you put lugs on the end of your wires. It looks like you tried to attach the wires directly to the screws as best I can tell from the photo. Personally, I use a bigger terminal strip too. Having said that, there is nothing wrong with soldring them together in my book :)

Larry H

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Subject: [motm] Power Distribution Pics and more help

Ok so I went out and got all the stuff, the only thing is that I think my terminal block is too cheezey and small. Check out the pic and see what you think, im not real pleased with the results. I couldn’t find a better one so Can I just scrap it and solder these wires together or splice them? Seems like things would be more solid that way. Is the terminal block even hooked up right with the main power in one side and 2 wires to the distribution boards going out the other side? Sorry for all the questions, thanks for the help in advance.

http://www.downtempo604.com/P1170018.jpg

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Re: [motm] Power Distribution Pics and more help

2002-01-18 by ivancu@aol.com

In a message dated 1/17/02 1:04:39 PM, psygfx@... writes:

<< Ok so I went out and got all the stuff, the only thing is that I think
my terminal block is too cheezey and small. >>

If you want some REALLY hefty barrier strips or terminal blocks, go to your 
local marine supply store and get what people use to wire up boat electrical 
systems.

Another choice, my preference, is to get the "Phoenix" connector blocks that 
are available from most electrical supply houses.  These are big green 
plastic blocks that have holes in them for the wires.  You insert a stripped 
wire and then tighten a screw; that's it.  There are hundreds of styles for 
different size wire and numbers of connections.

Ivan