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OMS-410 Kits

2001-05-24 by Tentochi

Currently all of the OMS-410 kits are spoken for.

The deadline for payment is June 7th. If everyone has not given me a down
payment by that time, I will open it up again.

If you would like me to put you on the waiting list, please send me an
email.

The final price is US$130 which includes shipping to Canada and the United
States. US$140 elsewhere.

Cheers!
Todd

OMS-410 Kits

2001-11-13 by Alan Wagner

Todd,

I would like to thank you for making OMS-410 Kits available to the list. I
know from ordering all the parts for Larry's 831 and 822 what a chore this
can be. I can only imagine what it would be like to try and tackle a job
like this for everyone on the list. Is there anything I can do to help you
speed up the process? I'd be willing to help kit up parts or whatever to
help you get these modules out. Let me know where you're at with these kits
and what I can do to help.

Patiently waiting,
Thank You,
Al Wagner

RE: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

2001-11-13 by psygfx@yahoo.com

There is an oms 410 kit? Can someone give me info? Is there also other
kits I am unaware of?

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Wagner [mailto:aardvark-mi@...]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:06 PM
To: tentochi@...; MOTM List
Subject: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

Todd,

I would like to thank you for making OMS-410 Kits available to the list.
I
know from ordering all the parts for Larry's 831 and 822 what a chore
this
can be. I can only imagine what it would be like to try and tackle a job
like this for everyone on the list. Is there anything I can do to help
you
speed up the process? I'd be willing to help kit up parts or whatever to
help you get these modules out. Let me know where you're at with these
kits
and what I can do to help.

Patiently waiting,
Thank You,
Al Wagner

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RE: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

2001-11-13 by psygfx@yahoo.com

Cool well I already ordered bit the 310 and 820 panels from you. I am I
need of the pcb's still though, too bad the guy making the kits isnt
still offering them. I sent tony an email about pcbs but havent got a
reply. Maybee Ill email him again.
Thanks for the info
matt

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:42 PM
To: 'MOTM List'; psygfx@...
Subject: Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

----- Original Message -----
From: <psygfx@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
There is an oms 410 kit? Can someone give
me info? Is there also other kits I am unaware of?

Larry Hendry writes:

Tony Allgood sells some PCBs (not kits) for some modules in the MOTM
format.
He has specifically a OMS-410 which connects to Paul's MOTM-410 to add
some
additional features. The same is true for his newly released OMS-820
which
connects to Paul's MOTM-820 to add some additional features. Tony also
has
other PCBs that others here have built. But, other than selling the
pots
and hard to find parts, Tony does not sell full kits. Here is the link
to
Tony's site:
http://www.oakleysound.com/

If you do build one of Tony's circuits from his PCBs and documentation,
and
you need a MOTM-like front panel, you can get some of them (not all)
from
Stooge panels, Inc. Dave Bradley and I make these panels available for
MOTM
users. You can find information about the panels at:
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm

Tony also recommends a German company for panel fronts that are similar,
to
MOTM in size but not exactly the same finish. But, they do supply
panels
for anything and Dave and I only make a select number of the Oakley
panels.

As far as kits, Todd Faulkner offered to pull together fulll kits but
buying
the parts in bulk and distrobuting them to everyone. He did purchase 23
of
the OMS-410 panel fronts from me. Todd is having some personal
challenges
right now and has been delayed in shipping his kits which everyone
pre-paid
for. I expect Todd will make good on his delivery. I do not expect he
is
still offering this service.

If you are planning to order a 410 PCB from Tony and want a MOTM style
front
panel, we sell them for $16. We print them via custom order every few
months. We are just placing an order right now and I can just squeeze
you
in for one of these if you let me know soon.

I also sell a MOTM companion project PCB and supporting parts not
commonly
available in catalogs. It provides octave anbd interval switching to
accompany the MOTM-300. Unlike Tony's modules that actually connect to
the
MOTM modules. Mine is a stand alone module that works with any 1/volt
per
octave VCO. You can find information about my voltage switcher at:
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/jlh-822/822.htm

Let me know if you have additional questions.
Larry Hendry
www.wiseguysynth.com

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Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

2001-11-13 by J. Larry Hendry

----- Original Message -----
From: <psygfx@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
There is an oms 410 kit? Can someone give
me info? Is there also other kits I am unaware of?

Larry Hendry writes:

Tony Allgood sells some PCBs (not kits) for some modules in the MOTM format.
He has specifically a OMS-410 which connects to Paul's MOTM-410 to add some
additional features. The same is true for his newly released OMS-820 which
connects to Paul's MOTM-820 to add some additional features. Tony also has
other PCBs that others here have built. But, other than selling the pots
and hard to find parts, Tony does not sell full kits. Here is the link to
Tony's site:
http://www.oakleysound.com/

If you do build one of Tony's circuits from his PCBs and documentation, and
you need a MOTM-like front panel, you can get some of them (not all) from
Stooge panels, Inc. Dave Bradley and I make these panels available for MOTM
users. You can find information about the panels at:
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm

Tony also recommends a German company for panel fronts that are similar, to
MOTM in size but not exactly the same finish. But, they do supply panels
for anything and Dave and I only make a select number of the Oakley panels.

As far as kits, Todd Faulkner offered to pull together fulll kits but buying
the parts in bulk and distrobuting them to everyone. He did purchase 23 of
the OMS-410 panel fronts from me. Todd is having some personal challenges
right now and has been delayed in shipping his kits which everyone pre-paid
for. I expect Todd will make good on his delivery. I do not expect he is
still offering this service.

If you are planning to order a 410 PCB from Tony and want a MOTM style front
panel, we sell them for $16. We print them via custom order every few
months. We are just placing an order right now and I can just squeeze you
in for one of these if you let me know soon.

I also sell a MOTM companion project PCB and supporting parts not commonly
available in catalogs. It provides octave anbd interval switching to
accompany the MOTM-300. Unlike Tony's modules that actually connect to the
MOTM modules. Mine is a stand alone module that works with any 1/volt per
octave VCO. You can find information about my voltage switcher at:
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/jlh-822/822.htm

Let me know if you have additional questions.
Larry Hendry
www.wiseguysynth.com

Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

2001-11-13 by Scott Juskiw

>Larry Hendry writes:
>
>If you do build one of Tony's circuits from his PCBs and documentation, and
>you need a MOTM-like front panel, you can get some of them (not all) from
>Stooge panels, Inc. Dave Bradley and I make these panels available for MOTM
>users. You can find information about the panels at:
>http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm
>

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scott Juskiw
scott@...

Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

2001-11-13 by mate_stubb@yahoo.com

>>>>

Can you elaborate on how the process works for deciding on whether or
not to make a Stooge panel for a third party module? I'm curious
because next year I hope to add some MOTM compatible modules to the
pot.
<<<<

Well,

Our motto is "First, do no harm." By that we mean, "don't do panels
for public consumption that will directly compete with Paul's
business." We want to ensure that we don't inadvertently kill demand
for a genuine MOTM product before it is even released, by making a
panel for a third party product. That's why you won't see certain
panels that we know would be popular, like the Oakley SuperLadder or
MultiLadder. Since Paul has announced that he will be releasing a
ladder filter, we choose not to compete there.

Next, we look for third party modules that we think would be cool,
and which would be popular. Sometimes we poll the list for feedback.

Sometimes we make a panel for a DIY project like the Expressionist
breakout panel or Larry's voltage shifters. This is somewhat more
complex than a third party module, because you have to create pcbs,
or at least document things well enough so that others can
successfully complete the module. To date we haven't done much of
this, because existing third party modules are 'lower hanging fruit',
so to speak. As we run out of interesting modules to make conversion
panels for, we anticipate mining this ground more often.

Finally, there is custom work. It's expensive, but a committed
individual can have custom designs made by us. We are doing our first
custom panels in this next run. IF the customer desires it, and IF it
passes our "non-compete" test, and IF it seems generally useful, we
may make these panels available to the general public, thus allowing
the original customer to make back some of the cost associated with
paying for the originals. We are still feeling our way here.

As always, contact Larry or me with any questions about how things
work, or if you have specific proposals for panel designs.

Moe

Dave's Hot Rod MOTM Shop
http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveb2

Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

2002-04-07 by J. Larry Hendry

For the record, with one exception (and that person did not order a 410 kit
from Todd), everyone said, forget it and move on. That's the kind of
response I expected from the people on this list. In the mean time I think
you have each received a note from Todd about delivery.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: Tentochi <tentochi@...>
The OMS-410 Kits are shipping this week.

RE: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

2002-04-07 by Tony Karavidas

That's really surprizing actually. I'm the one you're obviously talking
about since I "spoke up" on the list, but I did receive a few private emails
stating Todd should be held liable for his actions. And if you review the
list's emails about the topic, people were pretty pissed off.

It's not that I have ANYTHING againt Todd, in fact he is a pretty good
customer of mine. The surprise is that you would let someone "get away with
it." Imagine if Paul or John, or I took your money then decided to skip out
for a long while. What would you say? No biggie?

Everyone should be responsible for what the do or don't do. This isn't to
single out Todd at all, but if someone takes your money, then doesn't
provide the service or product they claimed they would when the money was
handed over, when does it end? If it wasn't for a generally decent society
based on rules, honor, morals, etc, we'll all just be robbing each other and
screwing whomever we could whenever we could.

Maybe the "let it slide" attitude is why so many people try and get away
with crap. Someone in my neighborhood has been stealing mail and using the
info to pay bills electronically. The police, the bank, the credit card
companies, AND the person who's had their mail stolen ALL know who is doing
it. (A female by the way if you all thought only men do crap like that.) No
one is willing to do anything about it! The police won't do crap unless
someone files charges; the bank doesn't care if it's under a certain amount;
the homeowner who was hit has "protection" for the most part so they want to
just forget about it.

Anyway I've digressed enough.

Tony Karavidas
Encore Electronics

http://www.EncoreElectronics.com

Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard Oct.
1997

> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...]
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:55 AM
> To: MOTM List
> Subject: Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits
>
>
> For the record, with one exception (and that person did not order
> a 410 kit
> from Todd), everyone said, forget it and move on. That's the kind of
> response I expected from the people on this list. In the mean
> time I think
> you have each received a note from Todd about delivery.
>
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tentochi <tentochi@...>
> The OMS-410 Kits are shipping this week.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Re: OMS-410 Kits

2002-04-07 by mmarsh100

Tony -

On the other hand, life sometimes sucks. It's up to us to make it
better. Compassion is still a good thing.

Mike

--- In motm@y..., "Tony Karavidas" <tony@e...> wrote:
> That's really surprizing actually. I'm the one you're obviously
talking
> about since I "spoke up" on the list, but I did receive a few
private emails
> stating Todd should be held liable for his actions. And if you
review the
> list's emails about the topic, people were pretty pissed off.
>
> It's not that I have ANYTHING againt Todd, in fact he is a pretty
good
> customer of mine. The surprise is that you would let someone "get
away with
> it." Imagine if Paul or John, or I took your money then decided to
skip out
> for a long while. What would you say? No biggie?
>
> Everyone should be responsible for what the do or don't do. This
isn't to
> single out Todd at all, but if someone takes your money, then
doesn't
> provide the service or product they claimed they would when the
money was
> handed over, when does it end? If it wasn't for a generally decent
society
> based on rules, honor, morals, etc, we'll all just be robbing each
other and
> screwing whomever we could whenever we could.
>
> Maybe the "let it slide" attitude is why so many people try and get
away
> with crap. Someone in my neighborhood has been stealing mail and
using the
> info to pay bills electronically. The police, the bank, the credit
card
> companies, AND the person who's had their mail stolen ALL know who
is doing
> it. (A female by the way if you all thought only men do crap like
that.) No
> one is willing to do anything about it! The police won't do crap
unless
> someone files charges; the bank doesn't care if it's under a
certain amount;
> the homeowner who was hit has "protection" for the most part so
they want to
> just forget about it.
>
> Anyway I've digressed enough.
>
> Tony Karavidas
> Encore Electronics
>
> http://www.EncoreElectronics.com
>
> Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -
Keyboard Oct.
> 1997
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@i...]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:55 AM
> > To: MOTM List
> > Subject: Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits
> >
> >
> > For the record, with one exception (and that person did not order
> > a 410 kit
> > from Todd), everyone said, forget it and move on. That's the
kind of
> > response I expected from the people on this list. In the mean
> > time I think
> > you have each received a note from Todd about delivery.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tentochi <tentochi@c...>
> > The OMS-410 Kits are shipping this week.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >

Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

2002-04-07 by synth_guru@eml.cc

Gee Tony, Does this mean you will step up and take repsonsibility for
all The complete CRAP you have designed for Korg lately ? : )
G

>
> Tony Karavidas wrote:
>
>> That's really surprizing actually. I'm the one you're obviously talking
>> about since I "spoke up" on the list, but I did receive a few private
>> emails
>> stating Todd should be held liable for his actions. And if you review the
>> list's emails about the topic, people were pretty pissed off.
>>
>> It's not that I have ANYTHING againt Todd, in fact he is a pretty good
>> customer of mine. The surprise is that you would let someone "get
>> away with
>> it." Imagine if Paul or John, or I took your money then decided to
>> skip out
>> for a long while. What would you say? No biggie?
>>
>> Everyone should be responsible for what the do or don't do. This isn't to
>> single out Todd at all, but if someone takes your money, then doesn't
>> provide the service or product they claimed they would when the money was
>> handed over, when does it end? If it wasn't for a generally decent
>> society
>> based on rules, honor, morals, etc, we'll all just be robbing each
>> other and
>> screwing whomever we could whenever we could.
>>
>> Maybe the "let it slide" attitude is why so many people try and get away
>> with crap. Someone in my neighborhood has been stealing mail and
>> using the
>> info to pay bills electronically. The police, the bank, the credit card
>> companies, AND the person who's had their mail stolen ALL know who is
>> doing
>> it. (A female by the way if you all thought only men do crap like
>> that.) No
>> one is willing to do anything about it! The police won't do crap unless
>> someone files charges; the bank doesn't care if it's under a certain
>> amount;
>> the homeowner who was hit has "protection" for the most part so they
>> want to
>> just forget about it.
>>
>> Anyway I've digressed enough.
>>
>> Tony Karavidas
>> Encore Electronics
>>
>> http://www.EncoreElectronics.com
>>
>> Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard
>> Oct.
>> 1997
>>
>>
>>

RE: [motm] OMS-410 Kits

2002-04-07 by Tony Karavidas

It's hard to tell if you were kidding or not. "Crap" was capitalized, but
then you put a smiley face at the end????

Sure, I haven't hidden from any product I've designed. Care to name anything
in particular? The Oasys PCI card was pretty crappy huh???

Tony

> -----Original Message-----
> From: synth_guru@... [mailto:synth_guru@...]
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 3:32 PM
> To: MOTM List
> Subject: Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits
>
>
>
> Gee Tony, Does this mean you will step up and take repsonsibility for
> all The complete CRAP you have designed for Korg lately ? : )
> G
>
> >
> > Tony Karavidas wrote:
> >
> >> That's really surprizing actually. I'm the one you're obviously talking
> >> about since I "spoke up" on the list, but I did receive a few private
> >> emails
> >> stating Todd should be held liable for his actions. And if you
> review the
> >> list's emails about the topic, people were pretty pissed off.
> >>
> >> It's not that I have ANYTHING againt Todd, in fact he is a pretty good
> >> customer of mine. The surprise is that you would let someone "get
> >> away with
> >> it." Imagine if Paul or John, or I took your money then decided to
> >> skip out
> >> for a long while. What would you say? No biggie?
> >>
> >> Everyone should be responsible for what the do or don't do.
> This isn't to
> >> single out Todd at all, but if someone takes your money, then doesn't
> >> provide the service or product they claimed they would when
> the money was
> >> handed over, when does it end? If it wasn't for a generally decent
> >> society
> >> based on rules, honor, morals, etc, we'll all just be robbing each
> >> other and
> >> screwing whomever we could whenever we could.
> >>
> >> Maybe the "let it slide" attitude is why so many people try
> and get away
> >> with crap. Someone in my neighborhood has been stealing mail and
> >> using the
> >> info to pay bills electronically. The police, the bank, the credit card
> >> companies, AND the person who's had their mail stolen ALL know who is
> >> doing
> >> it. (A female by the way if you all thought only men do crap like
> >> that.) No
> >> one is willing to do anything about it! The police won't do crap unless
> >> someone files charges; the bank doesn't care if it's under a certain
> >> amount;
> >> the homeowner who was hit has "protection" for the most part so they
> >> want to
> >> just forget about it.
> >>
> >> Anyway I've digressed enough.
> >>
> >> Tony Karavidas
> >> Encore Electronics
> >>
> >> http://www.EncoreElectronics.com
> >>
> >> Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard
> >> Oct.
> >> 1997
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

RE: [motm] Re: OMS-410 Kits

2002-04-07 by Tony Karavidas

I agree, life sometimes does suck and compassion is necessary. However, the
meaning of compassion is "deep sympathy" or "pity." That's not what I was
talking about. You can show someone compassion, but still hold them
responsible in the long run.

Compassion for one's personal life might allow someone to get away with
something (for a while) that wouldn't otherwise be tolerated, but there are
limits.

You might have "compassion" for a bank robber because he is poor and trying
to feed his kids, but what about when he kills your wife because she didn't
want to give up her diamond ring? The person's actions are the overriding
factor, and always should be.

I think Todd learned that the silent treatment doesn't work. Hopefully if
there is every trama in his life again, he will remember how this affected a
lot of people and if he is in the midst of dealing with people (like
everyone is most of the time) he will try harder to keep those relationships
and activites going.

I know of several engineers that are very poor at people skills. I would say
they are smarter than me (which isn't too terribly difficult) be I am the
one that always has a steady stream of work. Why? Because I don't drop the
ball (very often) Yes, I mess up once in a while, but to most companies, I
communicate very well even when things aren't going great. (Try telling you
boss you missed yet another "deadline") Shit happens (I'm going through a
bunch of it right now actually) and for me that's why some of my projects
are extremely delayed. However, I try and be as truthful as I can (with
whatever knowledge I have obtained at the time I make a particular
statement) and people APPRECIATE that.

I really hope Todd sails through the stormy weather he's had recently.

That's all...

Tony

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mmarsh100 [mailto:mmarsh@...]
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 3:13 PM
> To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [motm] Re: OMS-410 Kits
>
>
> Tony -
>
> On the other hand, life sometimes sucks. It's up to us to make it
> better. Compassion is still a good thing.
>
> Mike
>
> --- In motm@y..., "Tony Karavidas" <tony@e...> wrote:
> > That's really surprizing actually. I'm the one you're obviously
> talking
> > about since I "spoke up" on the list, but I did receive a few
> private emails
> > stating Todd should be held liable for his actions. And if you
> review the
> > list's emails about the topic, people were pretty pissed off.
> >
> > It's not that I have ANYTHING againt Todd, in fact he is a pretty
> good
> > customer of mine. The surprise is that you would let someone "get
> away with
> > it." Imagine if Paul or John, or I took your money then decided to
> skip out
> > for a long while. What would you say? No biggie?
> >
> > Everyone should be responsible for what the do or don't do. This
> isn't to
> > single out Todd at all, but if someone takes your money, then
> doesn't
> > provide the service or product they claimed they would when the
> money was
> > handed over, when does it end? If it wasn't for a generally decent
> society
> > based on rules, honor, morals, etc, we'll all just be robbing each
> other and
> > screwing whomever we could whenever we could.
> >
> > Maybe the "let it slide" attitude is why so many people try and get
> away
> > with crap. Someone in my neighborhood has been stealing mail and
> using the
> > info to pay bills electronically. The police, the bank, the credit
> card
> > companies, AND the person who's had their mail stolen ALL know who
> is doing
> > it. (A female by the way if you all thought only men do crap like
> that.) No
> > one is willing to do anything about it! The police won't do crap
> unless
> > someone files charges; the bank doesn't care if it's under a
> certain amount;
> > the homeowner who was hit has "protection" for the most part so
> they want to
> > just forget about it.
> >
> > Anyway I've digressed enough.
> >
> > Tony Karavidas
> > Encore Electronics
> >
> > http://www.EncoreElectronics.com
> >
> > Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -
> Keyboard Oct.
> > 1997
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@i...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:55 AM
> > > To: MOTM List
> > > Subject: Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits
> > >
> > >
> > > For the record, with one exception (and that person did not order
> > > a 410 kit
> > > from Todd), everyone said, forget it and move on. That's the
> kind of
> > > response I expected from the people on this list. In the mean
> > > time I think
> > > you have each received a note from Todd about delivery.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Tentochi <tentochi@c...>
> > > The OMS-410 Kits are shipping this week.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
>
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