MOTM

Hi all,

I've been spending the extra minutes today looking back through the Analogue
Heaven archives about books such as the Allen Strange one. I'm going on
vacation in a week and was hoping to find something I could buy, but it
looks like all the good books require out-of-print book searches!

I think I'm a fairly good synthesizer programmer/patch creator, but when you
guys start talking about alternative applications of modules (outside of the
typical normalled routing of analog and digital subtractive synthesizers), I
get dizzy. This is my first modular, and I would love to get some more book
learnin' in about it. Don't worry, I experiment on my own a lot too, but I'd
love to get excited about a quad VCA because of its panning capabilities...
I can't right now 'cause I have no idea how such a thing works! Do you know
what I mean?

So does anyone know of an in-print and/or readily available book that covers
subtractive synthesis from a modular perspective? I have a voracious
appetite for this kind of knowledge, and I'm going to be spending a lazy
week on a beach without a phone (or a modular!)... I could use a good book.

Thanks in advance--you guys always give great help!

David Bivins
Creative Strategist & Sock Darner
Brandscape
New York City
212.285.2600.x103

Sadly, there are ZERO in-print books on this!

The best book I've see is called "The Complete Guide to Synthesizers" by
Devarahi. Prentice-Hall
ISBN #0-13-160630-1.

This is a RARE book (I paid $90 for my copy!!!?!) but is really really good.

Also, the ARP2600 and ARP2500 Owner's Manuals are pretty good, too.

Paul S.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Bivins <david@...>
To: MOTM <motm@onelist.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 1999 3:35 PM
Subject: [motm] Question regarding books on modular synthesis


>From: "David Bivins" <david@...>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I've been spending the extra minutes today looking back through the
Analogue
>Heaven archives about books such as the Allen Strange one. I'm going on
>vacation in a week and was hoping to find something I could buy, but it
>looks like all the good books require out-of-print book searches!
>
>I think I'm a fairly good synthesizer programmer/patch creator, but when
you
>guys start talking about alternative applications of modules (outside of
the
>typical normalled routing of analog and digital subtractive synthesizers),
I
>get dizzy. This is my first modular, and I would love to get some more book
>learnin' in about it. Don't worry, I experiment on my own a lot too, but
I'd
>love to get excited about a quad VCA because of its panning capabilities...
>I can't right now 'cause I have no idea how such a thing works! Do you know
>what I mean?
>
>So does anyone know of an in-print and/or readily available book that
covers

>subtractive synthesis from a modular perspective? I have a voracious
>appetite for this kind of knowledge, and I'm going to be spending a lazy
>week on a beach without a phone (or a modular!)... I could use a good book.
>
>Thanks in advance--you guys always give great help!
>
>David Bivins
>Creative Strategist & Sock Darner
>Brandscape
>New York City
>212.285.2600.x103
>
>
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Hi.
a very good book in print i can recomend of is "an intruduction to the serge
modular synthsizer".
i bought it frome Sound Transform for 40$ us.
many block diagrems and very intresting info about control in
the serge system.

i allso have Strange book which is very good,bought it frome Amazon
for 45$ in a great shape.

finding a soruce for patches is very hard and most of the books
are out of reach so may be its time for us to creat "The Patch List" (-:
so we can shere the most importent info conserning modular synth's,
the problem is the graphic,we need to find a way to read graphic
mail just as regular text e-mail,a list of graphics mail's,any idea ?

that remindes me of the Nord Modular/scope patches which are great,this
can be the ferst mail on the patch list.

thanx
Gur Milstein  


At 16:29 13/08/99 -0400, you wrote:

>From: "David Bivins" <david@...>
>So does anyone know of an in-print and/or readily available book that covers
>subtractive synthesis from a modular perspective? I have a voracious
>appetite for this kind of knowledge, and I'm going to be spending a lazy
>week on a beach without a phone (or a modular!)... I could use a good book.
>
>Thanks in advance--you guys always give great help!
>
>David Bivins
>Creative Strategist & Sock Darner
>Brandscape
>New York City
>212.285.2600.x103
>
>
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> From: "David Bivins" <david@...>
> Hi all,
> I've been spending the extra minutes today looking back through the
Analogue
> Heaven archives about books such as the Allen Strange one. I'm going on
> vacation in a week and was hoping to find something I could buy, but it
> looks like all the good books require out-of-print book searches!

I did find the Allen Strange book in reprint with Rex @ Serge.  Don't try
e-mail, as you will never get an answer.  However, I called and he sent the
book out to be the same day just on my pormise of a check in return.  I
have never bought anything from them before.

However, I must tell you that the book was reroduced on a copier and bound.
 The binding is very nice but the come of the copied pages are a bit hard
to read in the very small print.

I have not pent enough time with the book yet to recommed it or not.  It
came highly recommended to me.  I am about 6 books behind right now.

Larry Hendry

Let me make two "novel" suggestions as to where to find great EM books: 1) 
the hippest (or at least the biggest) of used bookstores near you; 2) Check 
out a book at your local library (preferably at a University or even a JC, 
where they aren't as likely to sell off the old books as your neighborhood 
library). I've found many good things at both as well as the once a month 
library book/record sale -- very sad to see these useful books on their way 
to being pulped. It's worth a try.

But really the best way to get interesting patches is to share ideas with 
others and try unorthodox (but not stupid -- like outputs to outputs) things: 
i.e., "why can't I use an audio processor for processing CVs, or vice versa?"

I'm wondering if Mr. Strange (you'd have to go into EM or psychology with a 
name like that, eh?) actually gave Mr. Probe (insert your own joke here) 
permission to make/sell copies of his book.

JB

In a message dated 8/13/99 12:35:34 PM, david@... writes:

>I've been spending the extra minutes today looking back through the Analogue
>Heaven archives about books such as the Allen Strange one. I'm going on
>vacation in a week and was hoping to find something I could buy, but it
>looks like all the good books require out-of-print book searches!

> I'm wondering if Mr. Strange (you'd have to go into EM or psychology with
a 
> name like that, eh?) actually gave Mr. Probe (insert your own joke here) 
> permission to make/sell copies of his book.

One has to make the assumption that permission was given... Hmmm...

Mr. Strange (or perhaps Dr. Strange) certainly exhibits no particular
appetite to sell additional books himself.  I e-mailed him (at the
University)  concerning where I might find his book in publication before
someone tipped me onto STS.  He never bothered to answer my e-mail.

LH

Hi All !

Reposting this, if you've got a printer y'r all set :)

******************

If one does'nt mind printing one's own, i suggest surfing to :

http://www.tellus.vallentuna.se/gymninfo/personal/anders/andersus.html

and download the Digisound user manual (with the full docs if how it 
works
stuff is needed), the Formant docs, and the Wireless world 
synthesiszer
docs .  This should cover some of the basics .

Looking at the one chapter online  (and the other stuff on his site 
:) ), the synthesizer tutorial by Andre Stordeur looks pretty good, 
too .
Details on :

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/the_analog_cottage/

And in a book list i always plug Musical Applications of 
Microprocessors by Hal Chamberlin .  This deals with both analogue 
and digital ways to produce and twist waveforms, with a lot more 
thrown in .  Very well written, can provide a wide background, also 
from the nuts and bolts perspective .  Out of print, but can be 
ordered from the author .  See Paia site for more details :

http://www.paia.com/authors.htm

Hope this helps somewhat .

**********

I hope it does . 

Cheers .


Keep 'em oscillating :)


Hugo
=

Did your MOTM box arrive yet?

Paul S.

Since this was sent to the list, should the question be, "Did YOUR motm box
arrive yet?"
Sorry, stooge humor this easy cannot be avoided.
LH

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> From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> To: motm@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] Question regarding books on modular synthesis
> Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 6:23 PM
> 
> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
> 
> Did your MOTM box arrive yet?
> 
> Paul S.

No Paul.  My complimentary 3 rack MOTM unit has not arrived yet!  Where the
hell is it???

I've been waiting for months!

Is everyone else getting one too?

--Shemp

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...]
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 7:24 PM
> To: motm@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] Question regarding books on modular synthesis
>
>
> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
> Did your MOTM box arrive yet?
>
> Paul S.

Thanks to everyone for their fine recommendations. Thanks especially to Hugo
for the link to the Digisound manual--I did download and print it, and it's
exactly what I was looking for as a first step. Most of what I'm learning is
stuff I probably would have eventually figured out either on my own or from
others on this list, but it's a pleasure to have that "Ahhh!" feeling...

So when do we get a VC mixer, Paul? :) <j/k--I have the latest schedule>

David.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hugo Haesaert [mailto:hugo.haesaert@...]
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 1:20 PM
> To: motm@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] Question regarding books on modular synthesis
>
>
> From: "Hugo Haesaert" <hugo.haesaert@...>
>
> Hi All !
>
> Reposting this, if you've got a printer y'r all set :)
>
> ******************
>
> If one does'nt mind printing one's own, i suggest surfing to :
>
> http://www.tellus.vallentuna.se/gymninfo/personal/anders/andersus.html
>
> and download the Digisound user manual (with the full docs if how it
> works
> stuff is needed), the Formant docs, and the Wireless world
> synthesiszer
> docs .  This should cover some of the basics .

David,
Try WWW.Wizoo.com. They have a book on basic Analog Synthesis also. I have 
ordered on but not received it yet.
Jim

>From: "David Bivins" <david@...>
>Reply-To: motm@onelist.com
>To: <motm@onelist.com>
>Subject: RE: [motm] Question regarding books on modular synthesis
>Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:06:57 -0400
>
>From: "David Bivins" <david@...>
>
>Thanks to everyone for their fine recommendations. Thanks especially to 
>Hugo
>for the link to the Digisound manual--I did download and print it, and it's
>exactly what I was looking for as a first step. Most of what I'm learning 
>is
>stuff I probably would have eventually figured out either on my own or from
>others on this list, but it's a pleasure to have that "Ahhh!" feeling...
>
>So when do we get a VC mixer, Paul? :) <j/k--I have the latest schedule>
>
>David.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hugo Haesaert [mailto:hugo.haesaert@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 1:20 PM
> > To: motm@onelist.com
> > Subject: Re: [motm] Question regarding books on modular synthesis
> >
> >
> > From: "Hugo Haesaert" <hugo.haesaert@...>
> >
> > Hi All !
> >
> > Reposting this, if you've got a printer y'r all set :)
> >
> > ******************
> >
> > If one does'nt mind printing one's own, i suggest surfing to :
> >
> > http://www.tellus.vallentuna.se/gymninfo/personal/anders/andersus.html
> >
> > and download the Digisound user manual (with the full docs if how it
> > works
> > stuff is needed), the Formant docs, and the Wireless world
> > synthesiszer
> > docs .  This should cover some of the basics .
>
>
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