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Even though I haven't received my 822 modules yet, I was just thinking about 
them the other day and realized they would probably work great for alternate 
tunings.  That includes everything to different subtle Baroque tunings to too 
exotic foreign scales.  For example, synth bagpipes sound much more realistic 
when tuned accordingly.

Just got my Encore UEG on friday.  I didn't even realize the times were 
voltage controllable before I bought it.  Too bad there is no MOTM voltage 
inverter so the time can be made to shorten as one moves higher on the 
keyboard which is how many acoustic instruments behave.  Perhaps if I spend 
some time thinking I will figure out a trick to get around this.

-Elhardt

elhardt@... writes:

>>Too bad there is no MOTM voltage inverter so the time can be made to 
shorten as one moves higher on the keyboard which is how many acoustic 
instruments behave.  Perhaps if I spend some time thinking I will figure out 
a trick to get around this.<<

Now that I think about it, the MOTM mixer when available might allow this.

-Elhardt

> Just got my Encore UEG on friday.  I didn't even realize the times were
> voltage controllable before I bought it.  Too bad there is no MOTM voltage
> inverter so the time can be made to shorten as one moves higher on the
> keyboard which is how many acoustic instruments behave

Order 1 or more MOTM-830 Mixers and your problem is solved :)

Paul S.

jlarryh@... writes:

>>Jeff P and I has a long discussion about this very subject.  The only real
 thing that can be done is modification to other "equal temp scales."  Jeff
 and I worked up a 3 part modification that gives him the 19 note scale he
 wanted to experiment with.<<

Alternate scales and alternate tunings are two different things.  I'm not 
interested in greater than 12 note scales.  I just want to tune 12 note 
scales differently.  And I believe that some foreign scales have fewer than 
12 notes, so some keys can just not be played.  I think bagpipes can only 
play whole note intervals for instance.  I'll have to check my documentation 
on Turkish scales.

-Elhardt

Jeff P and I has a long discussion about this very subject.  The only real
thing that can be done is modification to other "equal temp scales."  Jeff
and I worked up a 3 part modification that gives him the 19 note scale he
wanted to experiment with.
Larry H

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Since the list is quiet (another 822 use)


Even though I haven't received my 822 modules yet, I was just thinking about
them the other day and realized they would probably work great for alternate
tunings.  That includes everything to different subtle Baroque tunings to
too
exotic foreign scales.  For example, synth bagpipes sound much more
realistic
when tuned accordingly.

Just got my Encore UEG on friday.  I didn't even realize the times were
voltage controllable before I bought it.  Too bad there is no MOTM voltage
inverter so the time can be made to shorten as one moves higher on the
keyboard which is how many acoustic instruments behave.  Perhaps if I spend
some time thinking I will figure out a trick to get around this.

-Elhardt




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Certainly any reversing attenuator will do what you want.  What is the
generally expected time frame expected for Mixer shipment Paul.. I guess now
that you are taking orders, it seems that date would be predictable.

Larry H.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] Since the list is quiet (another 822 use)


elhardt@... writes:

>>Too bad there is no MOTM voltage inverter so the time can be made to
shorten as one moves higher on the keyboard which is how many acoustic
instruments behave.  Perhaps if I spend some time thinking I will figure out
a trick to get around this.<<

Now that I think about it, the MOTM mixer when available might allow this.

-Elhardt




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Larry,

This sounds very interesting. Are the modifications something you could
post on your web site?

Thanks. Scott

"J. Larry Hendry" wrote:

> Jeff P and I has a long discussion about this very subject.  The only
> real
> thing that can be done is modification to other "equal temp scales."
> Jeff
> and I worked up a 3 part modification that gives him the 19 note scale
> he
> wanted to experiment with.
> Larry H
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <elhardt@...>
> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [motm] Since the list is quiet (another 822 use)
>
>
> Even though I haven't received my 822 modules yet, I was just thinking
> about
> them the other day and realized they would probably work great for
> alternate
> tunings.  That includes everything to different subtle Baroque tunings
> to
> too
> exotic foreign scales.  For example, synth bagpipes sound much more
> realistic
> when tuned accordingly.
>
> Just got my Encore UEG on friday.  I didn't even realize the times
> were
> voltage controllable before I bought it.  Too bad there is no MOTM
> voltage
> inverter so the time can be made to shorten as one moves higher on the
>
> keyboard which is how many acoustic instruments behave.  Perhaps if I
> spend
> some time thinking I will figure out a trick to get around this.
>
> -Elhardt
>
>
>
>
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Scott,
I just thought that I would let you know that I'm the one 'dragging his
heels' on implementing Larry's suggestions (Larry was very helpful and
diligent on his part). Given work and a few needed house repairs I haven't
been able to find a sufficiently long enough time block to concentrate on
the mod.  It's first on the 'to do synth list'. 
Jeff P

> This sounds very interesting. Are the modifications something you could
> post on your web site?
> 
> Thanks. Scott
> 
> "J. Larry Hendry" wrote:
> 
> > Jeff P and I has a long discussion about this very subject.  The only
> > real
> > thing that can be done is modification to other "equal temp scales."
> > Jeff
> > and I worked up a 3 part modification that gives him the 19 note scale
> > he
> > wanted to experiment with.
> > Larry H
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <elhardt@...>
> > To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [motm] Since the list is quiet (another 822 use)
> >
> >
> > Even though I haven't received my 822 modules yet, I was just thinking
> > about
> > them the other day and realized they would probably work great for
> > alternate
> > tunings.  That includes everything to different subtle Baroque tunings
> > to
> > too
> > exotic foreign scales.  For example, synth bagpipes sound much more
> > realistic
> > when tuned accordingly.
> >
> > Just got my Encore UEG on friday.  I didn't even realize the times
> > were
> > voltage controllable before I bought it.  Too bad there is no MOTM
> > voltage
> > inverter so the time can be made to shorten as one moves higher on the
> >
> > keyboard which is how many acoustic instruments behave.  Perhaps if I
> > spend
> > some time thinking I will figure out a trick to get around this.
> >
> > -Elhardt
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Hmmmm, actually that should be the 822, not 831 (btw, both great modules -
found them to be much more useful than I originally anticipated).
Jeff

Thanks Jeff.

Originally, when I finished the first 822 prototype, I figured the 831 would
probably bite the dust.  However, while the 822 is more versatile, I find
myself using the 831 a lot more for its "immediate" musical harmonies.  They
are really fun to play with when you have 3 or 4 oscillators.  However, I
should have included a warning sticker with them that reads, "You will want
more MOTM-300 oscillators once you build this."  Before, I was satisfied
with 2 oscillators and a divider on a voice.  Now, I'm just not happy unless
I have 3 or 4 oscillators.

Actually, the whole thing came together with subliminal messages.  Paul put
some "between the lines" messages in my MOTM-300 instructions for me so I
would design and build the 831.  He somehow made me just smart enough to do
it.  Then when I wrote the 831 assembly instructions, I included (still
being influenced by his messages in the 300 text) subliminal messages of my
own that say, "Buy more MOTM-300 oscillators."

Larry H

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey Pontius <jpont@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:38 PM
Subject: [motm] Re: 19 note equal scale mod to Larry Hendry's 822


Hmmmm, actually that should be the 822, not 831 (btw, both great modules -
found them to be much more useful than I originally anticipated).
Jeff

> should have included a warning sticker with them that reads, "You will want
> more MOTM-300 oscillators once you build this."  Before, I was satisfied
> with 2 oscillators and a divider on a voice.  Now, I'm just not happy unless
> I have 3 or 4 oscillators.
> 
Ho Ho!  Well I see that I am not alone.  After finishing the first one I
worked on (831) I ordered a 300 from Paul S. to bring my set up to 3
osc's.
Jeff