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Interesting patch using VC Lag as Timbre Modulator

Interesting patch using VC Lag as Timbre Modulator

2001-03-08 by Microtonal

Try this with your normal VCO-VCF-VCA chain for everything else for an
interesting patch using the VC Lag as a Timbre Modulator.

Connections:
VC LFO SINE to VCO2 FM2
VCO2 Sine to RM X IN
EG OUT + to RM Y IN
RM OUT to VC LAG UP/DN
VCO1 Saw to VC LAG IN
VC LAG OUT to any VCF input

Settings:
VC LFO
    Rate 0 to 3
    Shape 3 to 9
VCO2
    Coarse Tuning 4 to 6
    FM2 3 to 6
Ring Modulator
    X  DC, full level
    Y  AC, full level
    Unbal  0 to 10
EG
    set to anything, though generally shorter times than your VCF and VCA EG
VC LAG
    Up 0
    Down 0
    Up/Dn 4 to 10
    Lin/Log 0 to 10
VCO1
    Coarse tuning 4 to 6

Enjoy!

John Loffink
microtonal@...
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://home.att.net/~microtonal

Re: [motm] Interesting patch using VC Lag as Timbre Modulator

2001-03-08 by jwbarlow@aol.com

In a message dated 3/7/2001 9:12:49 PM, microtonal@... writes:

>VCO2 Sine to RM X IN
>EG OUT + to RM Y IN
>RM OUT to VC LAG UP/DN
>

Hi John,

I didn't understand this (specifically the RM), did you really mean to use an 
EG (a DC source) as an input to the RM? Isn't this just acting as a low grade 
VCA? (You're probably using the VCA to do something more interesting!) I was 
also wondering about the position of the RM switches, it is counterintuitive 
to have the Y input in the AC position when using an EG (it shouldn't work). 

Note: after having the MOTM 110 for about three months (embarrassingly long) 
when it was first released, I realized that the instructions had the X and Y 
switches swapped around (what?? A mistake in the MOTM manuals?? Impossible!! 
Well, it was the first or second module shipped so it's understandable) -- 
amazingly enough, no one else had mentioned it to Paul before that!! The MOTM 
list didn't yet exist in those days. Check to make sure your switches operate 
as labeled on the panel, you may have an older manual.

Not just another pretty Stooge!
JB

Re: [motm] Interesting patch using VC Lag as Timbre Modulator

2001-03-08 by Microtonal

The switch settings are correct.  I used the RM as a VCA since I assume most
people will use the VCA section of their MOTM-110 as the final VCA in the
signal chain.

John Loffink
micorotonal@...

----- Original Message -----
From: <jwbarlow@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] Interesting patch using VC Lag as Timbre Modulator


>
> In a message dated 3/7/2001 9:12:49 PM, microtonal@...
writes:
>
> >VCO2 Sine to RM X IN
> >EG OUT + to RM Y IN
> >RM OUT to VC LAG UP/DN
> >
>
> Hi John,
>
> I didn't understand this (specifically the RM), did you really mean to use
an
> EG (a DC source) as an input to the RM? Isn't this just acting as a low
grade
> VCA? (You're probably using the VCA to do something more interesting!) I
was
> also wondering about the position of the RM switches, it is
counterintuitive
> to have the Y input in the AC position when using an EG (it shouldn't
work).
>
> Note: after having the MOTM 110 for about three months (embarrassingly
long)
> when it was first released, I realized that the instructions had the X and
Y
> switches swapped around (what?? A mistake in the MOTM manuals??
Impossible!!
> Well, it was the first or second module shipped so it's understandable) --
> amazingly enough, no one else had mentioned it to Paul before that!! The
MOTM
> list didn't yet exist in those days. Check to make sure your switches
operate
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> as labeled on the panel, you may have an older manual.
>
> Not just another pretty Stooge!
> JB
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

RE: [motm] Interesting patch using VC Lag as Timbre Modulator

2001-03-08 by Tkacs, Ken

I have to admit that I'm glad to see someone use the lower half of the 110
as a VCA. In response to Paul's recent question about a distortion module, a
lot of posts said things like, "I'm not going to buy a 110 because I'm
waiting for the *dual* VCA," which had me stumped. The 110 *is* a dual VCA,
with a ring modulator thrown in! If accuracy is a concern, well, the
secondary VCA in my 100 certainly seems no less 'accurate,' noisy, or
whatever... than any other VCA in my studio, or that I've ever used, that's
for sure.

I, too, am looking forward to some of the 1u modules that are planned,
simply to balance out the odd spaces created by the EG and the PS. But if
folks are pacing around waiting for a dual VCA... it's one of the first MOTM
modules, and Paul still has them in stock.
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 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Microtonal [mailto:microtonal@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, 08 March, 2001 8:50 AM
To:	motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [motm] Interesting patch using VC Lag as Timbre
Modulator

The switch settings are correct.  I used the RM as a VCA since I assume most
people will use the VCA section of their MOTM-110 as the final VCA in the
signal chain.

Re: Interesting patch using VC Lag as Timbre Modulator

2001-03-08 by mate_stubb@yahoo.com

It's not just the 'dual-ness' that I need - I need exp control and 
hopefully, more than a single cv or audio input.

Moe

--- In motm@y..., "Tkacs, Ken" <ken.tkacs@j...> wrote:
> I, too, am looking forward to some of the 1u modules that are 
planned,
> simply to balance out the odd spaces created by the EG and the PS. 
But if
> folks are pacing around waiting for a dual VCA... it's one of the 
first MOTM
> modules, and Paul still has them in stock.
>

Re: [motm] Interesting patch using VC Lag as Timbre Modulator

2001-03-09 by Microtonal

It appears that my Ring Modulator X and Y switches may be swapped.  Try Y at
DC position if you don't hear any animation from the envelope.  Thanks to JB
for pointing this out.

John Loffink
microtonal@...

----- Original Message -----
From: <jwbarlow@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] Interesting patch using VC Lag as Timbre Modulator


>
> In a message dated 3/7/2001 9:12:49 PM, microtonal@...
writes:
>
> >VCO2 Sine to RM X IN
> >EG OUT + to RM Y IN
> >RM OUT to VC LAG UP/DN
> >
>
> Hi John,
>
> I didn't understand this (specifically the RM), did you really mean to use
an
> EG (a DC source) as an input to the RM? Isn't this just acting as a low
grade
> VCA? (You're probably using the VCA to do something more interesting!) I
was
> also wondering about the position of the RM switches, it is
counterintuitive
> to have the Y input in the AC position when using an EG (it shouldn't
work).
>
> Note: after having the MOTM 110 for about three months (embarrassingly
long)
> when it was first released, I realized that the instructions had the X and
Y
> switches swapped around (what?? A mistake in the MOTM manuals??
Impossible!!
> Well, it was the first or second module shipped so it's understandable) --
> amazingly enough, no one else had mentioned it to Paul before that!! The
MOTM
> list didn't yet exist in those days. Check to make sure your switches
operate
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> as labeled on the panel, you may have an older manual.
>
> Not just another pretty Stooge!
> JB
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

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