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Milestone approaching / News

Milestone approaching / News

1999-07-19 by Paul Schreiber

*Finally* have talleyed up all module sales from day 1, by quarters.

When the '410 filter is released, I should hit my first major milestone:
module #500 shipped!
(Yes, I know I need little serial # stickers! It's item #118 on the to-do
list)

My goal is to ship module #1000 by Jan. 1st. Which is not shabby since I
recall it took Moog
3 years to get to #1000 on the Modular and MOTM may hit that in 18 months.

The '410 filter will go to pcb fab this week, and will start shipping around
Aug. 15th. We will
be closed the 1st week of Aug., so if you need something shipped before
then, better order it now!

I have about 8 little 1U wide, mostly $89 kit modules lined-up after the
'320. I may sneak 1 or 2
in there: the triple pre-amp & rev. attenuator/power connector ones.

SOS Magazine (huge UK publication) has agreeded to have a review of MOTM!
This takes about 4
months to complete. I suspect maybe in the Jan or Feb issue. This should
make me a nervous wreck.
At least I won't ship dummy modules to the reviewer as one of my competitors
did (sounds like a Swiss
dinosaur). Maybe I'll get the cover!!?!

August will be a busy month with one more non-MOTM project due + school
starts for kids and wife-unit.

Thanks to everyone's support and patience as MOTM starts to gel. I'm already
dreaming of the sequencer
coding tables! New feature I will support: "tap-tempo" clock inputs!

Paul S.

Re: Milestone approaching / News

1999-07-19 by J. Larry Hendry

> When the '410 filter is released, I should hit
> my first major milestone: module #500 shipped!

Congratulations Paul. You success is well deserved and your product is
second to none.

> (Yes, I know I need little serial # stickers! It's
> item #118 on the to-do list)

Make more modules, the stickers can wait.

> My goal is to ship module #1000 by Jan. 1st.
> Which is not shabby since I recall it took Moog
> 3 years to get to #1000 on the Modular and
> MOTM may hit that in 18 months.

Let's see, doing a little math, making some general assumptions (which will
naturally contain errors) it might seem that 1000 modules represents an
average customer (assuming about 50) with about 20 modules each which is
pretty darn close to one a month (even if there are more than one of each).
I know, your mileage will vary and some people (stooge unmentioned) can
afford 4 VCOs.

Looks like those that have been customers this past year or so can count on
a sticker serial number under 50. Cool.

> Thanks to everyone's support and patience
> as MOTM starts to gel. I'm already
> dreaming of the sequencer coding tables!
> New feature I will support: "tap-tempo" clock inputs!

Fabulous !!! Now, how am I supposed to sleep ??

Larry Hendry

RE: Milestone approaching / News

1999-07-19 by Dave Bradley

> Let's see, doing a little math, making some general assumptions
> (which will
> naturally contain errors) it might seem that 1000 modules represents an
> average customer (assuming about 50) with about 20 modules each which is
> pretty darn close to one a month (even if there are more than one
> of each).
> I know, your mileage will vary and some people (stooge unmentioned) can
> afford 4 VCOs.
>

Meow! Hiss! I resemble that remark! I'll have you know buddy, I sold a pile
of vintage Emu equipment to bankroll my MOTM, and the pile o' moolah is
almost gone. What would you say if I had blown it ALL on VCOs and now had 8
of them?

Moe

Re: Milestone approaching / News

1999-07-19 by Andy Finch

If the Technosaurus can get a good review with dummy modules, I dont think you
have much to worry about, Paul. Your only worry will be getting the system back!

For those of you the other side of the pond who dont/cant get SOS (Sound On
Sound), they offer an e-sub, about half the price of the paper version.

www.sospubs.co.uk

They also offer free links from their site, Paul.

Paul Schreiber wrote:

>
> SOS Magazine (huge UK publication) has agreeded to have a review of MOTM!
> This takes about 4
> months to complete. I suspect maybe in the Jan or Feb issue. This should
> make me a nervous wreck.
> At least I won't ship dummy modules to the reviewer as one of my competitors
> did (sounds like a Swiss
> dinosaur). Maybe I'll get the cover!!?!
>
>
>
> Paul S.
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RE: Milestone approaching / News

1999-07-19 by Tentochi

SOS is a very nice publication. Definitely more oriented toward
professional musicians that Future Music. I hosted the only public
exhibition of the new Moogs from Cincinnati and they ran an article on the
event. Very nicely done.

Publications which would do the MOTM justice:

Sound on Sound (UK)
Future Music (UK)
Electronic Musician (UK)
Keyboard (US)
Keyboard Magazine (Japan)
Groove (Japan)
Recording (US)

Secondary selections:
Wired (US)
T3 (UK)
Interface (US)
American Scientific (US)

Tertiary suggestions:

DJ publications
Street Sounds
Online synth sites
Other foreign publications (especially German)
Nuts and Volts (US)

I am sure there are a few more out there. Please forward your additional
suggestions to the list. We would all be glad to hear them.

--Shemp

Re: Milestone approaching / News

1999-07-20 by JWBarlow@xxx.xxx

In a message dated 7/18/99 9:54:01 PM, synth1@... writes:

>When the '410 filter is released, I should hit my first major milestone:
>module #500 shipped!
>(Yes, I know I need little serial # stickers! It's item #118 on the to-do
>list)


Congratulations Paul! And I would think that, with such a large number of
modules shipped, that would encourage even more people to get into MOTM,
since it is obvious that your not a "fly by night" company and one could
really count on those MOTM bonus points.

>My goal is to ship module #1000 by Jan. 1st. Which is not shabby since
>I
>recall it took Moog
>3 years to get to #1000 on the Modular and MOTM may hit that in 18 months.


But please don't sell out to "Norlin." (when did that happen, anyway?)

>Thanks to everyone's support and patience as MOTM starts to gel. I'm already
>dreaming of the sequencer
>coding tables! New feature I will support: "tap-tempo" clock inputs!


Interesting!

Other stuff:
1) How many chips does one get from On Chip for $38,000? I'd still like to
see this happen eventually.
2) I've been looking at the Emu stuff at Silicon Breakdown, and I was
wondering how similar the Resonant Filters were to the MS10 (and MOTM 410)
VCF -- Dave? Paul?
3) I admire your spunk Larry, with the rotary switch for the VCOs, but I
think a programer/quantizer solution would be better for me.

JB

RE: Milestone approaching / News

1999-07-20 by Tentochi

Whoops. Forgot EQ.

> Publications which would do the MOTM justice:
>
> Sound on Sound (UK)
> Future Music (UK)
> Electronic Musician (UK)
> Keyboard (US)
> Keyboard Magazine (Japan)
> Groove (Japan)
> Recording (US)
>
> Secondary selections:
> Wired (US)
> T3 (UK)
> Interface (US)
> American Scientific (US)
>
> Tertiary suggestions:
>
> DJ publications
> Street Sounds
> Online synth sites
> Other foreign publications (especially German)
> Nuts and Volts (US)

Re: Milestone approaching / News

1999-07-20 by J. Larry Hendry

> From: JWBarlow@...
> Congratulations Paul! And I would think that, with such a large number of

> modules shipped, that would encourage even more people to get into MOTM,
> since it is obvious that your not a "fly by night" company and one could
> really count on those MOTM bonus points.

Holy S**t !! I completely forgot about bonus points.

> 3) I admire your spunk Larry, with the rotary switch for the VCOs, but I
> think a programer/quantizer solution would be better for me.

Thanks John. I think the programmer is for me too, BUT, I love the idea of
one VCO with the rotary switch. I have the switch and circuit board and
mounting worked out. I am still on the fence about using 0.1% resistors
over good quality trim pots. Decisions, decisions.... fret, fret, fret

LH

RE: Milestone approaching / News

1999-07-20 by Dave Bradley

> Other stuff:
> 1) How many chips does one get from On Chip for $38,000? I'd
> still like to
> see this happen eventually.

Clue me in - what are we talking about here???

> 2) I've been looking at the Emu stuff at Silicon Breakdown, and I was
> wondering how similar the Resonant Filters were to the MS10 (and
> MOTM 410)
> VCF -- Dave? Paul?

The EMu Resonant Filters are classic 2 pole (12 db/oct) state variable
filters with simultaneous LP, BP, and HP response available. They were
relatively low cost modules that were designed to be stacked one or more
together. The different outputs were combined in a mixer so you could mix LP
with HP, etc. The basic module didn't have any voltage control brought out
to the front panel - you used one or more for static formants or bought a
separate filter controller module that could be hooked up to 2 banks of 3
filters with a ribbon cable behind the front panel.

EMu also made a VERY full featured stand alone state variable filter (the
Universal Active Filter) with VC freq & Q, keyboard percussion input ala the
Arp 2500, separate filter outputs, etc.

I can't compare these to the MS10 since I don't remember it, but the 410 is
3 separate bandpass filters each with its own tuning (along with built in
LFOs to drive sweeps). If you took 3 Emu Resonant Filters, used their
bandpass response, hooked up the controller module and a LFO, you could sort
of approximate the 410, but it wouldn't have those cool Vactrols for squishy
response.

Comparing them to the 420, the 420 has notch response, they have bandpass.
The 420 has fully temp compensated VC, the Resonant VCFs have simultaneous
outputs (NOT on separate jacks, however!)

Of all the MOTM filters Paul has talked about doing (SEM, Moog, Xpander),
the SEM is 2 pole LP, Notch, HP like the 420 (but continuously sweepable),
the Moog is 4 pole LP, the Xpander is 15 different combos of poles and
responses.

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@...

Re: RE: Milestone approaching / News

1999-07-21 by JWBarlow@xxx.xxx

In a message dated 7/20/99 7:28:36 AM, daveb@... writes:

>> Other stuff:
>> 1) How many chips does one get from On Chip for $38,000? I'd
>> still like to
>> see this happen eventually.

>Clue me in - what are we talking about here???

Hi Dave,

Sorry about the reference! On a different list (synth-DIY) every 6 months or
so someone gets the (generally good) idea that a bunch of DIYers should get
someone to make a run of "magical" chips -- sometimes it's SSM, CEM or even
new designs. After a few "great idea" postings someone will reply that it
costs about $40,000 to do a run -- end of thread. I believe that Paul has
expressed an interest in running both the CEM 3340 and CEM 3310 but that
$80,000 -- OUCH! Still, it's a good idea!

Thanks for the Emu Resonant Filter description. I vividly remember making
nice tuned percussive sounds with these, and I loved that UAF too. My
reference to the MS10 was in fact a MSnomer -- I don't know Korg stuff at
all. And thanks for your descriptions of the other MOTM VCF candidates,
interesting things ahead!

Quad VCA! I'd love to see one that could be configured as quad VCA, dual
stereo panner, dual crossfader kind of thing.

JB

>> 2) I've been looking at the Emu stuff at Silicon Breakdown, and I was
>> wondering how similar the Resonant Filters were to the MS10 (and
>> MOTM 410)
>> VCF -- Dave? Paul?

>The EMu Resonant Filters are classic 2 pole (12 db/oct) state variable
>filters with simultaneous LP, BP, and HP response available. They were
>relatively low cost modules that were designed to be stacked one or more
>together. The different outputs were combined in a mixer so you could mix
>LP
>with HP, etc. The basic module didn't have any voltage control brought
>out
>to the front panel - you used one or more for static formants or bought
>a
>separate filter controller module that could be hooked up to 2 banks of
>3
>filters with a ribbon cable behind the front panel.
>EMu also made a VERY full featured stand alone state variable filter (the
>Universal Active Filter) with VC freq & Q, keyboard percussion input ala
>the
>Arp 2500, separate filter outputs, etc.

>I can't compare these to the MS10 since I don't remember it, but the 410
>is
>3 separate bandpass filters each with its own tuning (along with built
>in
>LFOs to drive sweeps). If you took 3 Emu Resonant Filters, used their
>bandpass response, hooked up the controller module and a LFO, you could
>sort
>of approximate the 410, but it wouldn't have those cool Vactrols for squishy
>response.

>Comparing them to the 420, the 420 has notch response, they have bandpass.
>The 420 has fully temp compensated VC, the Resonant VCFs have simultaneous
>outputs (NOT on separate jacks, however!)

>Of all the MOTM filters Paul has talked about doing (SEM, Moog, Xpander),
>the SEM is 2 pole LP, Notch, HP like the 420 (but continuously sweepable),
>the Moog is 4 pole LP, the Xpander is 15 different combos of poles and
>responses.