In a message dated 2/4/2001 10:23:59 AM, mate_stubb@... writes: >This is a good time to talk about 3U vs 2U for the Superladder. > >Have you looked at Tony's 3U layout for the Superladder? It contains >the following controls in common with a 440: >FREQ POT >RES POT >3 AUDIO POTS >2 CV POTS >3 AUDIO INPUTS >1V/OCT INPUT >2 CV INPUTS >RES CV INPUT >4 POLE LP (MAIN) OUT > >In addition, there is a free onboard VCA that is set up to modulate a >dedicated EG input. So his layout adds: >ENV INPUT >ENV POT >ENV MOD INPUT >ENV MOD POT > >Since he has extra space to work with, might as well add an >attenuator on the resonance cv: >RES CV POT > >Finally, the Superladder has two extra filter outputs: >BANDPASS OUT >1 POLE LP OUT > >So, let's see what we could cram into 2U, and what we'd have to give >up. Assume we take the first group on faith - 3 input and 2 cv >attenuators, res input. What we have looks just like the 440 except >for the switch. You could fit 2 jacks into that space. To me, the >bandpass and 1P lowpass would be the most valuable features to >retain. So you'd basically throw away the vca and associated controls. I'd forgotten about the ENV Level control (I'm not sure I ever understood it, and I'm not sure it would be that useful to me -- but it is worth having). I agree that a 3U would be a good use of space. I wonder if it would be worth it to have two different labels for each version of the SuperLadder (Moog vs. diode) -- I'd forgotten that it could be built as a diode VCF too. >Now, what about the MultiLadder? If it was just me building for >myself, I'd make a 3U panel. In that extra width I'd add a 4 input >dedicated mixer (no input jacks), inputs hardwired to the 4 separate >outputs. A single output jack would carry the mix response. The >inputs would use reversing attenuators just like the MultiMix. In >fact, a 4 pot version of the multimix would be perfect. By adding and >subtracting differing amounts of the various outputs, you could >achieve a wide variety of responses. This would be my choice for this module as well! >Another thing you could do, is make the filter output mixer a >separate 1U panel, that would mount right next to the MultiLadder. >You'd have to normal its inputs by hardwiring them to the >multiladder's jacks. I might just do this if it ends up as 2U. And Trenkel, you're a smart man! I'd prefer a 1U single AR/AD module (easier to spread around through a system), but a 2U double module would work for me too! And everyone is right about the Dual VCA module! JB
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Re: [motm] Superladder/Multiladder - 3U vs 2U (long)
2001-02-04 by jwbarlow@aol.com
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