--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "argitoth" <argitoth@...> wrote: > > WARNING: a bit of a rant, sorry. > > Hey Paul, I have another dilemma about my order. I'm posting a rant on > the MOTM forum hehehe... I'd like you to ship the order soon, but I'm > getting more and more frustrated with knowing what filter I *really* > want. I might want to change my order a little bit. Sorry! > > I was only getting the 420 because you said it was easy to build. Part > of my frustration is that, in my opinon, none of the audio demos > reveal how one filter sets itself apart from another filter. One > problem is that all the filters have audio demos of completely > different context (different modulation, different inputs, etc.). If I > want to hear a filter's character, I give it a low-pitch saw wave, > sweep the cutoff, and set the resonance to near-max and max. How a > filter self-oscillates and how a filter overdrives shows its > individual character, in my opinion. > > Ok, so I've explained to you my frustration. Now we can start the > process of solving this frustration. First of all, in the analog > world, my favorite filter that I've owned so far is the Doepfer A-106- > 1 Xtreme Filter. It can sound ugly, harsh, distorted, crazy, and > that's just how I like it. I also like my Analogue Systems RS-110 > filter. The RS-110 is everything that the A-106-1 is not. It can sound > clean and/or growly. I like how the filter reacts to near-self > oscillation and high gain. I can provide audio demos to help you > understand what I'm describing. > > Now that I said that, let me say this. Whichever filter I get, I > really want to have the ability to do dual resonance peaks. Also, the > filter must have at least two modes: Lowpass and something else. That > means the 490 and 440 are out as it's only a lowpass. The 410 is out > because it's only bandpass. There's nothing in the 480's description > that says it's harsh. The audio demos for the 480 are... kinda boring > (in my opinion, sorry!). That means the 480 is out. That leaves the > 420 and the 485. According to their descriptions, they are both on the > harsher side. HOWEVER no audio demos SHOW IT (in my opinion). That's > my frustration! The only way (in my opinion) to reveal a filter's > harsh character is with near-max and max resonance with filter sweeps > with a low-pitch saw at relatively high gain. > > I know what you're thinking. "If you haven't heard any audio demos you > like, maybe these filters aren't for you, look elsewhere!" However, I > want MOTM quality more than I want "my perfect filter." I'm willing to > compromise. I don't NEED A-106-1's crazyness. In the future I'll > definitely want to have all MOTM filters. But as for my FIRST > purchase, I do want the MOTM filter with the harshest character. > > Finally, let me pose the questions: > > 1. What filter do you suggest for me? > 2. Can you provide an audio demo with my specifications of the filter > you suggest? --- low-pitch saw (two or three octaves below middle C) > of relatively high gain, near-max and max resonance, filter sweeps in > lowpass mode. >
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Re: Frustrated with not knowing what MOTM filter to get first...
2009-02-18 by argitoth
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