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Re: [motm] Re: [RANT] MOTM value?

2009-02-12 by Scott K Warren

I would buy two of the MOTM Fixed Filter Bank! I'm less interested in  
the digital stuff, but that's just me.

I chose MOTM because Paul's products are the best in the world. I'm  
glad I did.

skw


On Feb 11, 2009, at 9:35 PM, David Abbey wrote:

> Amen, Bill.  I would like to have the MOTM Fixed Filter Bank.  Will  
> it be offered for sale?  Would like to know.......
>
> From: wjhall11 <wjhall@...>
> To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:52:24 PM
> Subject: [motm] Re: [RANT] MOTM value?
>
> Worth?
>
> OK - now my rant...
>
> Assuming that music has value, then the instruments that help create
> it have value. And music is one of the fundamental expressions of
> life. Crickets, birds, wolves - the two leggeds, the four leggeds,
> even the inktomi - we all sing.
>
> I suspect that these modules mean different things to different
> people, Paul. But for me, it's simple - primarily, these things,
> bundled together constitute the equivalent of a Stradivarius.
>
> Not everyone can afford that. Not everyone wants that. But I want it
> and so I choose to afford it. Because I sing.
>
> Secondarily - and this is big for Will and me - we can build the
> gadgets ourselves. It has made this synth OUR synth.
>
> So, as my dad says "If you have to consider the menu's price, you
> probably can't afford to eat there - better find a different
> restaurant." Dad, the Bell Labs Guy, studies your circuits and says
> "nice - very nice" like he says about a great meal.
>
> We come to your table because we love the food and it has influenced
> our lives for the better.
>
> I think that's the leveler, man. Like a great song. Your crazy
> gadgets have made the place better for us.
>
> Not bad. <shrug> But we're from Jersey. If the world ended today we
> would adjust.
>
> We want the FDNR filter and Dad is amused by it. We wish you'd design
> it so we could build it - but do what you will - we'll find a way to
> afford it eventually.
>
> Bill (and Will)
>
> --- In motm@yahoogroups. com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Sure, everyone needs a MOTM 730... but the days when MOTM was  
> cheapest
> > > modular synth is over :) 21%VAT; 3,5% import tax; shipping  
> overseas...
> > > not for everyone.
> > >
> >
> > a) You will find that the VAT declared value for MOTM modules is
> quite a bit
> > less than 'retail'.
> >
> > b) I can't help the postage costs, but shipping 1 MOTM-730 to the  
> EU is
> > about $30. That's an issue?
> >
> > I've never really considered MOTM 'inexpensive' at all. Rather,
> > *innovative* . Does anyone else
> > even have anything close to this? Nope, everyone else has $3 of CMOS
> > counters behind a panel
> > to count in powers of 2. Big deal, the MOTM-120 has that and more.
> >
> > I am just now at the *break even* point for the '730. And I can
> break even
> > just sitting here looking out
> > the window.
> >
> > It is VERY expensive to tool up a new module, over $4,000. And
> truthfully,
> > right now I'm starting to wonder
> > what to do looking forward. 95% of all new orders are MOTM 2.0
> stuff. There
> > are over 15 modular
> > providers at last count. I still feel that myself & my fellow MOTM
> designers
> > have yet to be out-designed in
> > any facet. But the bad economic times, the drop in the Euro/Pound
> and other
> > factors is making me second-guess
> > all the 100s of hours (and yes, it really is 100s of hours) of
> design time
> > put into each module versus return
> > on investment. Those of you that have a '730, just look at how those
> 5 pc
> > boards interconnect, the tightness of
> > the CPU card (4 layers, 3 ground planes, 3 power planes) and you can
> see
> > where the time was spent. Before this
> > version, I spent time & $$$ on 2 other versions so that the HW & SW
> could be
> > tested over and over again as not to
> > have any issues down the road.
> >
> > I've got the MOTM-520/521 still to finish up. A lot of the R&D is
> done, and
> > so are many of the part purchases (over $7,500, BTW).
> > But will it also be a 'break even' sort of deal? And that $7,500 is
> *just*
> > for the '520, not for the '521. Quick math shows
> > that I need to sell about 25 to break even.
> >
> > And to date, I have sold less than 25 MOTM-730s. Maybe I will sell
> 50-60
> > '520s right away. But then I thought I would get at least 40  
> orders for
> > MOTM-730s right away.
> >
> > So, maybe the issue is even "deeper", that I'm trying to sell
> something that
> > has little interest *now* (because it did have lots of interest  
> before).
> >
> > If so, then what exactly IS of interest?
> >
> > Paul S.
> > /excuse rant, daughter's tuition due tomorrow.... sigh.....
> >
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