I would buy two of the MOTM Fixed Filter Bank! I'm less interested in the digital stuff, but that's just me. I chose MOTM because Paul's products are the best in the world. I'm glad I did. skw On Feb 11, 2009, at 9:35 PM, David Abbey wrote: > Amen, Bill. I would like to have the MOTM Fixed Filter Bank. Will > it be offered for sale? Would like to know....... > > From: wjhall11 <wjhall@...> > To: motm@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:52:24 PM > Subject: [motm] Re: [RANT] MOTM value? > > Worth? > > OK - now my rant... > > Assuming that music has value, then the instruments that help create > it have value. And music is one of the fundamental expressions of > life. Crickets, birds, wolves - the two leggeds, the four leggeds, > even the inktomi - we all sing. > > I suspect that these modules mean different things to different > people, Paul. But for me, it's simple - primarily, these things, > bundled together constitute the equivalent of a Stradivarius. > > Not everyone can afford that. Not everyone wants that. But I want it > and so I choose to afford it. Because I sing. > > Secondarily - and this is big for Will and me - we can build the > gadgets ourselves. It has made this synth OUR synth. > > So, as my dad says "If you have to consider the menu's price, you > probably can't afford to eat there - better find a different > restaurant." Dad, the Bell Labs Guy, studies your circuits and says > "nice - very nice" like he says about a great meal. > > We come to your table because we love the food and it has influenced > our lives for the better. > > I think that's the leveler, man. Like a great song. Your crazy > gadgets have made the place better for us. > > Not bad. <shrug> But we're from Jersey. If the world ended today we > would adjust. > > We want the FDNR filter and Dad is amused by it. We wish you'd design > it so we could build it - but do what you will - we'll find a way to > afford it eventually. > > Bill (and Will) > > --- In motm@yahoogroups. com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Sure, everyone needs a MOTM 730... but the days when MOTM was > cheapest > > > modular synth is over :) 21%VAT; 3,5% import tax; shipping > overseas... > > > not for everyone. > > > > > > > a) You will find that the VAT declared value for MOTM modules is > quite a bit > > less than 'retail'. > > > > b) I can't help the postage costs, but shipping 1 MOTM-730 to the > EU is > > about $30. That's an issue? > > > > I've never really considered MOTM 'inexpensive' at all. Rather, > > *innovative* . Does anyone else > > even have anything close to this? Nope, everyone else has $3 of CMOS > > counters behind a panel > > to count in powers of 2. Big deal, the MOTM-120 has that and more. > > > > I am just now at the *break even* point for the '730. And I can > break even > > just sitting here looking out > > the window. > > > > It is VERY expensive to tool up a new module, over $4,000. And > truthfully, > > right now I'm starting to wonder > > what to do looking forward. 95% of all new orders are MOTM 2.0 > stuff. There > > are over 15 modular > > providers at last count. I still feel that myself & my fellow MOTM > designers > > have yet to be out-designed in > > any facet. But the bad economic times, the drop in the Euro/Pound > and other > > factors is making me second-guess > > all the 100s of hours (and yes, it really is 100s of hours) of > design time > > put into each module versus return > > on investment. Those of you that have a '730, just look at how those > 5 pc > > boards interconnect, the tightness of > > the CPU card (4 layers, 3 ground planes, 3 power planes) and you can > see > > where the time was spent. Before this > > version, I spent time & $$$ on 2 other versions so that the HW & SW > could be > > tested over and over again as not to > > have any issues down the road. > > > > I've got the MOTM-520/521 still to finish up. A lot of the R&D is > done, and > > so are many of the part purchases (over $7,500, BTW). > > But will it also be a 'break even' sort of deal? And that $7,500 is > *just* > > for the '520, not for the '521. Quick math shows > > that I need to sell about 25 to break even. > > > > And to date, I have sold less than 25 MOTM-730s. Maybe I will sell > 50-60 > > '520s right away. But then I thought I would get at least 40 > orders for > > MOTM-730s right away. > > > > So, maybe the issue is even "deeper", that I'm trying to sell > something that > > has little interest *now* (because it did have lots of interest > before). > > > > If so, then what exactly IS of interest? > > > > Paul S. > > /excuse rant, daughter's tuition due tomorrow.... sigh..... > > > > > > > >
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Re: [motm] Re: [RANT] MOTM value?
2009-02-12 by Scott K Warren
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