No more kits?!? That's a definite downer. Back in 2001 when I decided to get into modular fun, the reason I chose MOTM was 1) the large format, and 2) availability of kits. I had no idea about the excellent quality I would end up with, so that did not enter the equation. I really liked Modcan, but no kits were available, so my decision was made. Kits are great because they are relaxing, teach you something, and give you a sense of accomplishment when you look at and listen to the results. The ability to modify them is also interesting. And if that isn't enough, they are usually less expensive. I have bought one or more of every module that Paul has offered in kit form (~50 modules). I had planned to continue to do so into the future. I am another one that has not bought kits recently, alas. Paul is right about module assortment; I have a good enough collection of basic modules at the moment and am looking forward to the more esoteric modules coming out. That is why I had set aside some $$$ and placed orders for all of the new modules, even though most are not kits and are 2-3 times the cost of prior kits. That being said, Tom F. hits the nail on the head regarding discretionary cash. There have been a few different factors that have reduced my budget and forced my regular orders into submission. Gas, stocking up on non-RoHS parts, rising kit prices, etc. I respect Paul for what he has accomplished and appreciate the hard work that is maintaining/growing a personal business. His little hobby has made my little hobby possible - for which I'm thankful. He must make hard decisions that will affect his future, hopefully for the better. That being said, I still want kits, damit. Trust me, the demand for kits is not dead. Kits put a number of manufacturers on the map, and keep them there. Kits are why I chose MOTM. Paul is a sharp dude. I believe the real reason for his stopping kits is because he'd rather spend time designing new cool stuff than stuffing parts in bags. He has to have fun too. I respect that. In any case, the lack of available kits will redirect much of my interest in other directions. There of course will be some MOTM modules which I will just *have* to have. And I wouldn't trade the modules I already have for anything. But it's looking like the face of my ever-growing modular will be changing, which I guess is inevitable. Regards, George Kisslak PS: Tom - your idea in the spirit of Electronotes is excellent. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mbedtom" <mbedtom@...> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:30 AM Subject: [motm] Re: More on kits > Paul S. said in part... > > Sadly, it's a *business* decision, pure and simple. The orders for > kits are in *severe decline* and I think the main reason is most MOTM > users have all the "regular" modules they need and want cool new > stuff. As far as new customers coming on board: it's true that every > year about 30 new MOTMers sign on. But, and this is the frustrating > but.....about 40 people "drop off" never to be heard from again. The > most sobering statistic: only 22% of the first *300* MOTM customers > have bought a module from me in the last 18 months. > > ----snip---- > > When I first bought MOTM kits, gasoline was $1.43 a gallon. Today, > the same gas costs me $3.18 per gallon. For me, MOTM products were > purchased with discretionary dollars. Those dollars have been eroded > by many factors beyond the scope of what I am willing to say for the > sake of brevity. The kit business is what put SynthTech on the map. > The death of Larry Hendry and the demise of "Stooge Industries" were > major "hits" as both comprised the best MOTM sales/support machine you > could have ever had. The "lifetime" point system died an early death > and kit prices climbed 35% since I came on board. Now, the kits are > on their last leg. The "main" reason kit sales are on the decline, in > my opinion, has little to do with a need for "cool new stuff" and much > to do with other factors. For your sake Paul, I hope I am dead wrong. > > I can appreciate the necessity for profit-centric business decisions, > for which I have no complaint. Maybe kits really are dead. Maybe kit > prices have risen to the point that the size of the market has shrunk > to unsustainable levels. Finding the sweet spot is the holy grail of > business and I understand that. > > On the other hand, I think that the DIY spirit is still alive. I > think that if boards and proper documentation were made available at > inexpensive prices, people would buy them even if they had to get > Front Panel Express panels and buy their own parts. If you believe > that the kit business is of no further value, let me have copies of > the PC board Gerber files for the through-hole boards and I'll get > them made at my own expense. I have no business aspirations and if I > shipped out boards at a break-even price that would be okay by me. > For about $25 each any MOTM PC board could be shipped anywhere in the > US and not lose money. I would do this in the spirit of Electronotes, > back in the days when they would sell essential components at very > little margin. The buyers of assembled units would be unfazed and you > would get a market segment in-waiting for the really cool, > assembled-only modules with which I could not help them. > > This is just an idea I am floating out there, and I could easily be > out of my mind. (My wife knows I am out of my mind. Still, she has > hung around for 30 years so she must be crazy too!) > > Peace. > Tom Farrand > <engage lurk mode & duck>
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Re: [motm] Re: More on kits
2006-07-08 by groovyshaman
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