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Re: Playing The Mixer

2006-03-18 by Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub)

Jonathan Snipes wrote:

> for no-input mixer stuff, listen to:
> 
> http://www.japanimprov.com/tnakamura/
> 
> he's the master.  this is a pretty common technique that lots of people 
> used in the noise/improv world.  but toshimaru nakamura's the best, imho.

I don't know many of them, I just got some sampler records with works of 
him and also Otomo Yoshihide.
There's also a german lady I like to listen to, Andrea Neumann. But she 
also plays "inside piano" which is basically a custom built piano frame 
where she connected several types of mics and pickups to. So these 
things mix up.

> the beautiful thing about feedback mixer patches is that in order to 
> recreate sounds, not only do you have to remember where you patched 
> things, but in what order you patched them, in what order you turned 
> which knobs, how quickly you turned knobs, etc.

We are talking about improvisation. So I (at least for my part) have the 
same "problem" (actually, due to the nature of the application, there is 
none) when improvising on my modular. To recreate a certain piece I do 
need some choreographie to get close to the original.

While I found Nakamura's works quite interesting I still like to know 
and hear what this particular gentleman's pieces do sound like, since 
here's some sort of competition between his mixer and Geoff's modular 
ongoing. ;-)

To me it's like comparing a cello to a trombone ...

    Michael.

(In fact Geoff could team up with his friend and jam together)

> 
> -jonathan
> 
> On Mar 17, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub) wrote:
> 
>> Geoff wrote:
>>
>> > but the variety of sounds
>> > he manages to produce is actually somewhat frustrating for me! 
>>
>> hmm - that can be solved  ;-)
>>
>> > After he
>> > played the thing for 20 minutes, he looked at me, and said "I can't
>> > believe you spend ($X,XXX) on your modular!
>>
>> that's just his POV. basically you should be able to sort of "rebuild"
>> the stuff he patches on your modular (depending on the modules you
>> have). AND (in a sense) that would be reproduceable. (but with some
>> effort the stuff on the mixer as well)
>>
>> > Of course, his thing is unpredictable, and can't be 'played' like a
>> > regular instrument, but for pure glorping, it's surprisingly good.  Go
>> > figure!  I'll probably get some recordings up at some point, for those
>> > of you who might be interested.
>>
>> yes, indeed!  would be nice and interesting!
>>
>>    ;-) Michael.

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