This is further justification for building whatever drum trigger interface to support the model of "a piezo disk wrapped in something you whack." I did some reading on http://www.harmony-central.com/Drums/EDW/. It seems like your fancy pads will either have two piezos or one piezo and a switch. I have one of these switched pads myself -- the idea is you hit the pad and then grab it with your other hand as if you were choking a cymbal. I haven't seen a lot of electronic drummers who demanded to be able to do cymbal chokes this way, they're just as happy to hit a different pad or pedal or whatever. Either way, if you have a module as proposed so far, you're set. You just might need two piezo->trig/gate things per head, and perhaps a little adapter that goes from one TRS phone plug to two TS phone jacks (not hard to build or find at Radio Shack) so you can get both of the piezo signals or the piezo signal and the switch into plain old TS 1/4" phone plug terminated cable. It's all piezo disks in any manufacturer's electronic drums, except for some of the integrated controllers that use FSRs like the DrumKat. DrumKats are still in production, but relatively expensive, and there's no hope of hacking one to put out anything but MIDI. The FSRs used in the Alternate Mode products can last for as little as 6 months of regular playing, production quality varies, and they cost hundreds to replace, replacements only being available from the manufacturer. Piezos last somewhat longer, can be replaced for less than US$2, and are available at Radio Shack. FSRs generate a much cleaner pulse output when you whack them, extremely few crosstalk and false triggering problems, and you can also get "aftertouch" if you push your stick into them. It's amazing to see Mario play them. www.alternatemode.com You can buy a bunch of Remo practice pads, epoxy some piezos to coffee can lids and shove them inside, and so have drum triggers as good as any *and* delicious home brewed coffee. Or, you can go buy mesh heads with exotic foamy cones to transfer energy from the head to the piezo, and drum shells made of some kind of "acoustically dead polymer". Either way, they give out basically the same signal. On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 07:54 -0500, Greg Amann wrote: > Well they have stereo 1/4" plugs so you get the centre pad but the > rim is shorted oot. > > PLL, BFG > > On 16-Jan-06, at 11:51 PM, jfm3 wrote: > > > On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 21:07 -0500, Greg Amann wrote: > >> [...] my sexy Roland meshy pads (they are stereo and use a bizarre > >> technology that I have not spent the time to figure oot) > > > > I'm not sure, but it's probably just two piezos that they analyze > > cleverly and simultaneously in the host. What happens if you plug > > them > > into a trusty D4? -- (jfm3)
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Re: [motm] Something I wish existed.
2006-01-18 by jfm3
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